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By: Militant Libertarian » The New Professionalism

Militant Libertarian » The New Professionalism — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:37:54 +0000

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By: Mannie

Mannie — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:32:11 +0000

Rule: If you open the door with a gun, and find a cop, shoot him before he shoots you. You can sort out the legalities, only if you live.

By: Dr. James Chappell

Dr. James Chappell — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:50:32 +0000

My grandfather was the Sheriff of Yuma, Arizona back in the day they hung horse thieves. My sister was a policewoman. Her husband was a deputy Sheriff.
From 1991 to 1996, I worked for two police departments as their Youth Services Officer. Both departments had what were called “old bulls” still on the force. As policies changed the “bulls” wanted out. They didn’t like losing their freedom to NOT follow the rules. They hated video cameras.
There are still plenty of “old bulls” out there. Age has nothing to do with it. One “bull” told me he loved being a cop because he had a gun, fast car, badge and power. He said the courts always favored cops over civilians. This is still part of the law enforcement growth industry mentality.
Until, if and when We the People take our country back, we will still invite “old bulls” into the system we created that is now out of control.
Thank God we have the 2nd Amendment giving all of us a right to “bear arms”; carrying a gun. Unfortunately, most of us think that right has been dismissed. It may be usurped, but it is “still on the books.”

By: Jess

Jess — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:55:51 +0000

JBR, in what way does your injection of “a little realism” challenge the prevailing consensus that Cole is a danger to the public? Is is somehow psychologically challenging to call out “hey dude in the shed how are you man I mean no harm so please don’t feel threatened while I open the shed door”? That would have been a great way to avoid “the need” to shoot an innocent person, and we would expect such wisdom of any human being. I wish we could expect it of any cop.

By: John Boanerges Redman

John Boanerges Redman — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:03:59 +0000

A little realism here. It is an awful lot more difficult to shoot a person than anything else, moving or still. Even soldiers experience this (but many won’t talk about it). I can shoot deer, racoons, rats, snakes. I’ve yet to point at, much less fire at a person and I have no idea how I would react if the need arose. Neither do you.

By: KPR

KPR — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:09:38 +0000

GodDamned…

NEVER EVER EVER (unless so egregious that it just can’t be helped) does a policing agency and its partner (DA’s Office) find a cop guilty of blowing one of us away.

However, look at a cop wrong, you are gonna be slapped with an assault on a cop charge.

It is open season on dogs and humans both. If the broad swath of idiots in this nation (ohhh, if you have nothing to hide who cares if a cop shoves a flashlight up your butt… if a cop shoots, he has a great reason… start shooting the mexicans as they cross the border – soon there won’t be any more illegals… drugs are illegal because they make people do bad things )
would finally awake to the reality of the situation, we could actually push back against the moron patrol with badges. But until then, we’re screwed.

By: Vic Kelley

Vic Kelley — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:30:43 +0000

Don’t bother placing Trooper Cole anywhere. He needs to be dealt with by family of the victims or by vigilantes. Leave internal affairs and courts out of this. Law enforcement needs to fear us. Citizens shouldn’t tolerate this crap.

By: derfel cadarn

derfel cadarn — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:23 +0000

It would appear from the record shown that the FHP should find Officer Cole a prison cell.

By: marco73

marco73 — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:55:35 +0000

It’s getting really hard to find good goons these days…

By: liberranter

liberranter — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:50:21 +0000

Maybe it’s time the Florida Highway Patrol found Officer Cole a desk job. Or at least the sort of job where he’ll never need to use force. C'mon now. Porky Cole is exactly the kind of sadistic monster that today's law enforcement gangs are looking for. There's no better species with which to terrorize the mundanes than a bloodthirsty, murderous sadist.

By: Bergman

Bergman — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:14:40 +0000

Cop does it: Handcuffed woman needed to be subdued, woman happened to fall and hit head, brain damage was woman’s fault for twitching while being electrocuted, officer committed no wrongdoing, case closed.

Same thing if non-cop did it: Perp discharged dangerous weapon at helpless victim, violently knocking her to the ground, and inflicting crippling injury. Book gets thrown at bad person, conviction follows, many decades in prison.

The difference between them? The former is sworn to uphold the law and defend the constitution. The latter is not.

By: Ben

Ben — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:31:50 +0000

Wow 15 shots and a grazed leg. That reminds me of the Ron White routine from his “You can’t fix stupid” album.

“You ever see tape of the Kehoe brothers from Ohio, those two guys that get out of that white Suburban, it’s been on COPS a few times? Those guys, folks, have a shootout with the police, at point…blank…range—nobody gets hurt. I would love to have been at that office the next day when that guy’s being interviewed by the police. “And then what happened?” “Well, at that point, I unloaded my semi-automatic 9 millimeter weapon at point blank range.” “And then what happened?” “They…left.” Nice shooting, Elmer Fudd. There was a kid in Detroit a few years ago, shot 8 bullets, hit 9 people. These cops fired 22 shots, didn’t even hit the fuckin’ Suburban!”

By: Speakertweaker

Speakertweaker — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:28:44 +0000

Maybe it’s time the Florida Highway Patrol found Officer Cole a desk job.

How about making license plates?

By: 2trips

2trips — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:58:31 +0000

wait, he didn’t steal the motorcycle, it was his motorcycle. i’m stupid.

By: 2trips

2trips — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:56:44 +0000

@#10 rmv
i know, right!? how are you gonna fire a cop just for having sex in a cemetery while on duty? they have a hard job, just give him the benefit of the doubt.
i’m sure he had a perfectly good reason for stealing that motorcycle, too.

By: rmv

rmv — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 19:44:09 +0000

From the article:

“The bike belonged to Thomas Singleton, a former Pinellas sheriff’s deputy who was fired in 2006 after he had sex on duty with a waitress in a different St. Petersburg cemetery.”

By: Rich

Rich — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:38:10 +0000

And she fell (passively- no cause and effect discernible in Cole’s actions) and hit her head sustaining brain damage. The logic employed to justify this woman’s tasering, that is she deserved it and is responsible for her own predicament and injury, is completely abandoned to the benefit of Officer Cole each time Officer Cole is “investigated” for any incident he causes directly. How does the system so efficiently, reliably and repeatedly identify the bullies, thugs and sociopaths like Officer Cole worthy of a defense and, often, a subsequent promotion?

By: Joseph Stromberg

Joseph Stromberg — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:29:33 +0000

Back in 1970 at FAU (Find Another University), we had a guy in our dorm from New Jersey [!], whose ambition was to join the Florida Highway Patrol. We said, “why?” His answer was “I want to drive fast and harass people.”

10 points for honesty. I don’t know if he ever got that job.

By: Yizmo Gizmo

Yizmo Gizmo — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:58:43 +0000

“Cole then fired 15 shots from a rifle. One round pierced Work’s thigh.”

Not only a psycho (10 prev IA investigations) but a bad shot.
Damn they pick some winners!

By: Jack Dempsey

Jack Dempsey — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:46:50 +0000

I feel so safe.