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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Afternoon Links</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/10/14/sunday-afternoon-links-6/comment-page-1/#comment-3962542</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 02:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

yada yada.  Gay sex is so mercilessly unhealthy compared to real sex that it&#039;s not even funny.  Pit bulls are so mercilessly mean compares to regular dogs that it&#039;s not funny.  Pork is so mercilessly unclean that it&#039;s not even funny... [fill in the blank] music is so mercilessly unmelodic when compared to real music... 

See what I did there? Stating an unfounded opinion in a hyperbolic way doesn&#039;t make it true.

If you want to wash your hands 50 times a day and drench them in purell after touching every doorknob, have at it, but please keep your personal phobias/obsessions/compulsions/superstitions out of my kitchen/bedroom/living room/favorite restaurant/legislature.  

See, our opinions differ widely, but no matter how strong my opinion is, it will never affect your life.]]></description>
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<p>yada yada.  Gay sex is so mercilessly unhealthy compared to real sex that it&#8217;s not even funny.  Pit bulls are so mercilessly mean compares to regular dogs that it&#8217;s not funny.  Pork is so mercilessly unclean that it&#8217;s not even funny&#8230; [fill in the blank] music is so mercilessly unmelodic when compared to real music&#8230; </p>
<p>See what I did there? Stating an unfounded opinion in a hyperbolic way doesn&#8217;t make it true.</p>
<p>If you want to wash your hands 50 times a day and drench them in purell after touching every doorknob, have at it, but please keep your personal phobias/obsessions/compulsions/superstitions out of my kitchen/bedroom/living room/favorite restaurant/legislature.  </p>
<p>See, our opinions differ widely, but no matter how strong my opinion is, it will never affect your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#47 - It&#039;s a woman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 &#8211; It&#8217;s a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#39 C.S.P. - Yes, you&#039;re right.  I have a daughter who is mentally retarded.  I am usually pretty thick skinned about the use of that word but for some reason Bobs use of it really grated on me this morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#39 C.S.P. &#8211; Yes, you&#8217;re right.  I have a daughter who is mentally retarded.  I am usually pretty thick skinned about the use of that word but for some reason Bobs use of it really grated on me this morning.</p>
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		<title>By: perlhaqr</title>
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		<dc:creator>perlhaqr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: turtle researcher, that poor dude.  I hope someone warns him to get a nickname and go by that if he ever travels to an english speaking country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: turtle researcher, that poor dude.  I hope someone warns him to get a nickname and go by that if he ever travels to an english speaking country.</p>
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		<title>By: James Hare</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marie/kerade:
There are plenty of libertarians who think the highest liberty is the liberty to be an asshole to others. Thankfully there don&#039;t seem to be many here (at least they&#039;re not jumping up to defend  being an asshole, which is usually the reaction this sort of thing gets).

C. S. P. Schofield: One does not need to have direct relatives who are intellectually disabled in order to feel that using the word &quot;retard&quot; as a generic term of abuse is not cool. It is possible to feel empathy for folks who are not members of your family. You might try it sometime!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marie/kerade:<br />
There are plenty of libertarians who think the highest liberty is the liberty to be an asshole to others. Thankfully there don&#8217;t seem to be many here (at least they&#8217;re not jumping up to defend  being an asshole, which is usually the reaction this sort of thing gets).</p>
<p>C. S. P. Schofield: One does not need to have direct relatives who are intellectually disabled in order to feel that using the word &#8220;retard&#8221; as a generic term of abuse is not cool. It is possible to feel empathy for folks who are not members of your family. You might try it sometime!</p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/10/14/sunday-afternoon-links-6/comment-page-1/#comment-3960000</link>
		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#15 - 

&lt;i&gt;Before the genie of standardized food labeling was introduced, companies made whatever claim they wanted on the package. They had NO incentive whatsoever to put anything that showed their product in a bad light on their product.&lt;/i&gt;

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free.png]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 &#8211; </p>
<p><i>Before the genie of standardized food labeling was introduced, companies made whatever claim they wanted on the package. They had NO incentive whatsoever to put anything that showed their product in a bad light on their product.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free.png" rel="nofollow">http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: marfdrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>marfdrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a lighter note, the name of that second turtle researcher sure was funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note, the name of that second turtle researcher sure was funny.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Linda, and this: &lt;i&gt;But the police department says the officer was trying to protect a child.&lt;/i&gt; Pulling out the &#039;for the children!&#039; defense is especially despicable in a case where the officer shot the dog--and chased the dog to shoot it again--when children were present. 

How many gunshot injuries and deaths (and how much childhood trauma) would be prevented if we took guns away from law enforcement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Linda, and this: <i>But the police department says the officer was trying to protect a child.</i> Pulling out the &#8216;for the children!&#8217; defense is especially despicable in a case where the officer shot the dog&#8211;and chased the dog to shoot it again&#8211;when children were present. </p>
<p>How many gunshot injuries and deaths (and how much childhood trauma) would be prevented if we took guns away from law enforcement?</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attempted Puppycide-  I think in this particular case the saddest line in the entire article is the one where the children tell how the officer told the dog to stop and he obeyed the officer, but was still shot. I feel so sorry for this dog and the children who had to witness this brutality. Family pet shot, children traumatized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attempted Puppycide-  I think in this particular case the saddest line in the entire article is the one where the children tell how the officer told the dog to stop and he obeyed the officer, but was still shot. I feel so sorry for this dog and the children who had to witness this brutality. Family pet shot, children traumatized.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C.S.P., I try not to use the word &quot;retard,&quot; myself, though I have no developmentally disabled (mentally retarded) person in my family. I used to think the objection was, well, retarded, until a friend who DOES have a child with mental retardation explained his objection. &quot;Retarded&quot; is used to mean &quot;stupid,&quot; and people who watch their child struggle for every advancement, every sign of developmental progress...those people resent their child being compared to stupid people. Mental retardation doesn&#039;t mean stupid, it means slow development. Families who watch their ten-year-old learn to say the ABCs, or master the task of pulling on her pants...those families recognize the intelligence inherent in the child. 

There is nothing &quot;retarded&quot; about poking someone with a needle or shooting at someone&#039;s feet or insisting that food labels agree with your politics...those are truly stupid acts. Monumentally stupid, and more so because those people don&#039;t have a developmental delay to excuse their careless, willful stupidity.

My stand on the word &quot;retarded&quot; is more a stand on courtesy and semantics than a stand on political correctness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C.S.P., I try not to use the word &#8220;retard,&#8221; myself, though I have no developmentally disabled (mentally retarded) person in my family. I used to think the objection was, well, retarded, until a friend who DOES have a child with mental retardation explained his objection. &#8220;Retarded&#8221; is used to mean &#8220;stupid,&#8221; and people who watch their child struggle for every advancement, every sign of developmental progress&#8230;those people resent their child being compared to stupid people. Mental retardation doesn&#8217;t mean stupid, it means slow development. Families who watch their ten-year-old learn to say the ABCs, or master the task of pulling on her pants&#8230;those families recognize the intelligence inherent in the child. </p>
<p>There is nothing &#8220;retarded&#8221; about poking someone with a needle or shooting at someone&#8217;s feet or insisting that food labels agree with your politics&#8230;those are truly stupid acts. Monumentally stupid, and more so because those people don&#8217;t have a developmental delay to excuse their careless, willful stupidity.</p>
<p>My stand on the word &#8220;retarded&#8221; is more a stand on courtesy and semantics than a stand on political correctness.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DUI case.

I&#039;m starting to wonder if  DUI is ever based on anything
other than falsified (or rubberstamped) police records.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DUI case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to wonder if  DUI is ever based on anything<br />
other than falsified (or rubberstamped) police records.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kerade,

May we presume you have a developmentally challenged person in your family? Because if you don&#039;t, I&#039;m not sure what to make of your outburst.

Marie,

Bittman is a writer for the New York Times; this means that his point of view is invincibly provincial - pretty much restricted to the island of Manhattan and select surroundings - and that he is dumb as a post (it&#039;s a requirement). Once you understand those points his entire article is explained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerade,</p>
<p>May we presume you have a developmentally challenged person in your family? Because if you don&#8217;t, I&#8217;m not sure what to make of your outburst.</p>
<p>Marie,</p>
<p>Bittman is a writer for the New York Times; this means that his point of view is invincibly provincial &#8211; pretty much restricted to the island of Manhattan and select surroundings &#8211; and that he is dumb as a post (it&#8217;s a requirement). Once you understand those points his entire article is explained.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#26: Bob - &quot;JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! I don’t know who is the bigger retard… the retard who poked at a coworker with a syringe or the retard who pulled out a gun and shot into the floor.&quot;

I have the answer - you are!  For using the word retard, you asshole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26: Bob &#8211; &#8220;JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! I don’t know who is the bigger retard… the retard who poked at a coworker with a syringe or the retard who pulled out a gun and shot into the floor.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have the answer &#8211; you are!  For using the word retard, you asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the Bittman piece:
&lt;i&gt;Of course, labeling changes like this would bring cries of hysteria from the food producers who argue that all foods are fine, although some should be eaten in moderation. To them, a red traffic-light symbol on chips and soda might as well be a skull and crossbones. But traffic lights could work: indeed, in one study, sales of red-lighted soda fell by 16.5 percent in three months.&lt;/i&gt;

I love how he talks about &quot;cries of hysteria from food producers who argue that all foods are fine&quot; and then says that his plan would work because sales of soda could drop 16.5 percent. The cries of hysteria would likely come not because &quot;all foods are fine,&quot; but because sales would drop, production would drop, employment would drop. Bittman makes no connection between his lofty ideals and the real world of economics.

Underwriter Laboratories and the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval are good examples of successful voluntary labeling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Bittman piece:<br />
<i>Of course, labeling changes like this would bring cries of hysteria from the food producers who argue that all foods are fine, although some should be eaten in moderation. To them, a red traffic-light symbol on chips and soda might as well be a skull and crossbones. But traffic lights could work: indeed, in one study, sales of red-lighted soda fell by 16.5 percent in three months.</i></p>
<p>I love how he talks about &#8220;cries of hysteria from food producers who argue that all foods are fine&#8221; and then says that his plan would work because sales of soda could drop 16.5 percent. The cries of hysteria would likely come not because &#8220;all foods are fine,&#8221; but because sales would drop, production would drop, employment would drop. Bittman makes no connection between his lofty ideals and the real world of economics.</p>
<p>Underwriter Laboratories and the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval are good examples of successful voluntary labeling.</p>
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		<title>By: the other rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would quite like food labels to accurately tell me what&#039;s in the damn can. I had to develop a weight loss plan for one of our cats and the &quot;information&quot; provides on cat food labels is a farce - the scheme (which, apparently, all the major manufacturers subscribe to) deliberately mixes minimum and maximum quantities so as to make it impossible to determine the contents with any degree of precision.

Needless to say, I&#039;d like this to come about through market forces, due to other consumers bitching about it as I do, rather than by regulatory fiat.

In a similar vein, I won&#039;t buy any product whose manufacturer attempts to deceive me via the label. I recently picked up (and put right back down again) something (I forget what) which listed &quot;evaporated cane juice&quot; as an ingredient. I took that as an attempt to indicate the presence of sugar without mentioning the word sugar. There&#039;s something deeply disturbing about an industry that feels the need to mislead its customers in that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would quite like food labels to accurately tell me what&#8217;s in the damn can. I had to develop a weight loss plan for one of our cats and the &#8220;information&#8221; provides on cat food labels is a farce &#8211; the scheme (which, apparently, all the major manufacturers subscribe to) deliberately mixes minimum and maximum quantities so as to make it impossible to determine the contents with any degree of precision.</p>
<p>Needless to say, I&#8217;d like this to come about through market forces, due to other consumers bitching about it as I do, rather than by regulatory fiat.</p>
<p>In a similar vein, I won&#8217;t buy any product whose manufacturer attempts to deceive me via the label. I recently picked up (and put right back down again) something (I forget what) which listed &#8220;evaporated cane juice&#8221; as an ingredient. I took that as an attempt to indicate the presence of sugar without mentioning the word sugar. There&#8217;s something deeply disturbing about an industry that feels the need to mislead its customers in that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering any required green light-red light labels would come from the same government agency who started issuing nutritional recommendations that just happened to coincide with massive increases in obesity and were allegedly more influenced by lobbyists than nutritionists, what makes anyone thing these ratings would actually be useful?  You know they would be weighted so products containing corn would be more green than other products; it&#039;ll probably just take some lobbying and vitamin enriching to have boxes of HFCS-Frosted HFCS Bombs sitting in the cereal aisle with a green label.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering any required green light-red light labels would come from the same government agency who started issuing nutritional recommendations that just happened to coincide with massive increases in obesity and were allegedly more influenced by lobbyists than nutritionists, what makes anyone thing these ratings would actually be useful?  You know they would be weighted so products containing corn would be more green than other products; it&#8217;ll probably just take some lobbying and vitamin enriching to have boxes of HFCS-Frosted HFCS Bombs sitting in the cereal aisle with a green label.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob,

I think that if you go read the labels in a health-food store you will see that there are companies prepared to voluntarily meet all kinds of standards in order to woo specialized markets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>I think that if you go read the labels in a health-food store you will see that there are companies prepared to voluntarily meet all kinds of standards in order to woo specialized markets.</p>
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		<title>By: marco73</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both cops in the needle story should be charged with a crime, fired, and let a jury sort it out.
Needle sticks can be hazardous; I can&#039;t imagine how stupid you&#039;d have to be to threaten someone with a needle. That&#039;s an immediate firing offense in any medical office/hospital I&#039;ve ever worked in.
And firing your gun into the ground? What, you don&#039;t have a Taser or a nightstick?

Can people be able to relieve stress by joking at work? Of course.

But threatening someone using potentially dangerous/deadly devices? You are too stupid to continue working for me, goodbye.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both cops in the needle story should be charged with a crime, fired, and let a jury sort it out.<br />
Needle sticks can be hazardous; I can&#8217;t imagine how stupid you&#8217;d have to be to threaten someone with a needle. That&#8217;s an immediate firing offense in any medical office/hospital I&#8217;ve ever worked in.<br />
And firing your gun into the ground? What, you don&#8217;t have a Taser or a nightstick?</p>
<p>Can people be able to relieve stress by joking at work? Of course.</p>
<p>But threatening someone using potentially dangerous/deadly devices? You are too stupid to continue working for me, goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’d like the label to tell me how much money in government subsidies the producers of the ingredients of the food get from state and local government. I’d like to know if there are any trade or import restrictions that are distorting the price I’m paying for a particular food item. I’d like to know to what political causes the company that makes the food donates.&quot;

Count me (and my unreconstructed paleo-liberalism) in on this.  The more people understand the market and societal distortions that result from our  subsidies and trade policies the better.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if a lot of people would want to keep less-than-optimal-market policies in place for cultural reasons -- but at least they&#039;d actually know what they&#039;re doing and why.  Yeah, I know, a pipe dream.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d like the label to tell me how much money in government subsidies the producers of the ingredients of the food get from state and local government. I’d like to know if there are any trade or import restrictions that are distorting the price I’m paying for a particular food item. I’d like to know to what political causes the company that makes the food donates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Count me (and my unreconstructed paleo-liberalism) in on this.  The more people understand the market and societal distortions that result from our  subsidies and trade policies the better.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if a lot of people would want to keep less-than-optimal-market policies in place for cultural reasons &#8212; but at least they&#8217;d actually know what they&#8217;re doing and why.  Yeah, I know, a pipe dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@23 Rojo,

Here is a PDF from the Adam Smith Institute, I can&#039;t remember if it talks about harm done (it&#039;s been a few years since I read it): http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/images/pdf/unfair_trade.pdf]]></description>
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<p>Here is a PDF from the Adam Smith Institute, I can&#8217;t remember if it talks about harm done (it&#8217;s been a few years since I read it): <a href="http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/images/pdf/unfair_trade.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/images/pdf/unfair_trade.pdf</a></p>
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