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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Is it just me? &#124; TechnoChitlins</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3900189</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it just me? &#124; TechnoChitlins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phil in Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil in Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 23:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Officer Safety(TM) was never mentioned, but there are a lot of talk about the safety of other people in the house. A lot of &quot;But, these are really Bad Dudes&quot;, along the lines of Mexican drug cartel bosses. 

The retort for waiting it out was &quot;what&#039;s going to happen if he shootings someone while we&#039;re outside waiting--AND IT DOES HAPPEN!&quot; When?, I asked&quot;. &quot;IT DOES HAPPEN!&quot;. I guess we don&#039;t read the same newspapers.

Anyway, the attititude is if you have a warrant, there is a remote chance are connected to the Medellín Cartels, and deserve whatever you get. It&#039;s your fault, after all. I guess warrants don&#039;t lie.

I have take a shower now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Officer Safety(TM) was never mentioned, but there are a lot of talk about the safety of other people in the house. A lot of &#8220;But, these are really Bad Dudes&#8221;, along the lines of Mexican drug cartel bosses. </p>
<p>The retort for waiting it out was &#8220;what&#8217;s going to happen if he shootings someone while we&#8217;re outside waiting&#8211;AND IT DOES HAPPEN!&#8221; When?, I asked&#8221;. &#8220;IT DOES HAPPEN!&#8221;. I guess we don&#8217;t read the same newspapers.</p>
<p>Anyway, the attititude is if you have a warrant, there is a remote chance are connected to the Medellín Cartels, and deserve whatever you get. It&#8217;s your fault, after all. I guess warrants don&#8217;t lie.</p>
<p>I have take a shower now.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3897744</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember seeing a movie about Sgt. York and in the movie there were a bunch of german soldiers attacking him all in a row like that. What he did to them is the proper response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing a movie about Sgt. York and in the movie there were a bunch of german soldiers attacking him all in a row like that. What he did to them is the proper response.</p>
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		<title>By: marie</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3897332</link>
		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d have liked to hear that conversation, Phil. My blood boils just thinking about what his answers might have been. Let me guess...safety for the cops?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have liked to hear that conversation, Phil. My blood boils just thinking about what his answers might have been. Let me guess&#8230;safety for the cops?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil in Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3897041</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil in Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a long discussion with a cop the other day about SWAT forced entries. The amount of &quot;What if&#039;s&quot; needed to justify these tactics make the Anti-GMO people seem absolutely reasonable.

My mind boggled at the answers to &quot;Why don&#039;t you just wait him out&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a long discussion with a cop the other day about SWAT forced entries. The amount of &#8220;What if&#8217;s&#8221; needed to justify these tactics make the Anti-GMO people seem absolutely reasonable.</p>
<p>My mind boggled at the answers to &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you just wait him out&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This might be a stupid question, but is it safe to run nicely lined up like that thru an open field in a tactical situation?&quot;

The &quot;tactical situation&quot; just means they will be sneaking up on some petty drug dealer&#039;s house -- or the innocent person they&#039;ve confused him with -- in a residential neighborhood. There are no snipers or landmines worry about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This might be a stupid question, but is it safe to run nicely lined up like that thru an open field in a tactical situation?&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;tactical situation&#8221; just means they will be sneaking up on some petty drug dealer&#8217;s house &#8212; or the innocent person they&#8217;ve confused him with &#8212; in a residential neighborhood. There are no snipers or landmines worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3896486</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Storm Troopers.  Or, for Half-Life fans, the Combine. 

All hide their faces for the same reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Storm Troopers.  Or, for Half-Life fans, the Combine. </p>
<p>All hide their faces for the same reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris V</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3896107</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is horrifying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is horrifying.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3894102</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I&#039;d like to know is why is the picture in B&amp;W?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;d like to know is why is the picture in B&amp;W?</p>
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		<title>By: Rationality</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3893687</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is truly tragic is the massive time and money that are spent on these self-masturbatory fantasy hero sessions of once (actually less than once) in a career Deputy Dog/Navy SEAL raids when a fraction of that time and money could be used to screen, hire, and train competent &quot;problem solvers&quot; who had a default response to crisis other than &quot;I feared for my life and was forced to shoot (the dog, granny, bystanders in the background)&quot;.  Funding these types of fantasies merely perpetuates and enforces the police culture of &quot;Us v. Them&quot; which results in many dead &quot;Them&quot; (meaning You).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is truly tragic is the massive time and money that are spent on these self-masturbatory fantasy hero sessions of once (actually less than once) in a career Deputy Dog/Navy SEAL raids when a fraction of that time and money could be used to screen, hire, and train competent &#8220;problem solvers&#8221; who had a default response to crisis other than &#8220;I feared for my life and was forced to shoot (the dog, granny, bystanders in the background)&#8221;.  Funding these types of fantasies merely perpetuates and enforces the police culture of &#8220;Us v. Them&#8221; which results in many dead &#8220;Them&#8221; (meaning You).</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s how they are training?  Really?  Because I looked at that photo and thought, &quot;mmmmm... enfilade.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s how they are training?  Really?  Because I looked at that photo and thought, &#8220;mmmmm&#8230; enfilade.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3892668</link>
		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 14:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What we know about Maine is strongly colored by the &quot;Absurdly Prolific&quot; career of Stephen King (thank you , A GIRL AND HER FED). If I was a cop in King&#039;s maine, I would certainly want the whole G.I. Joe kit, and probably a vial of holy water and a wizard&#039;s staff. 

That said, I agree with ZK that those masks look an awful lot like paintball masks. I think that &#039;send SWAT to deliver all warrants&#039; business is absurd and dangerous, but I can think of lots of reasons for cops to be playing paintball as a team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we know about Maine is strongly colored by the &#8220;Absurdly Prolific&#8221; career of Stephen King (thank you , A GIRL AND HER FED). If I was a cop in King&#8217;s maine, I would certainly want the whole G.I. Joe kit, and probably a vial of holy water and a wizard&#8217;s staff. </p>
<p>That said, I agree with ZK that those masks look an awful lot like paintball masks. I think that &#8216;send SWAT to deliver all warrants&#8217; business is absurd and dangerous, but I can think of lots of reasons for cops to be playing paintball as a team.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyto</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3892300</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to reinforce something you already know, that our perception of SWAT is the extreme minority, I&#039;ll relate this anecdote:

I took my son to one of the local public libraries yesterday in a lower-class, minority/immigrant dominated neighborhood.   A friend from school happened to be there and his mom told me about a &quot;dog demonstration&quot; they were about to have, hoping we&#039;d join them.  The neighborhood mother&#039;s group had invited the police to show off their drug dog for the kids!  Yippie!

Well, not only did officer Friendly show up to lecture the kids about the police state, he wore his full battle dress SWAT-style uniform.  The parents were uniformly impressed and happy to have the officer show off his german shepherd.  

For me the community outreach thing isn&#039;t really a problem - but when they come dressed in combat fatigues it sends an entirely different signal to me.  One that the largely lower/middle income group of parents present didn&#039;t seem to share.  

So don&#039;t count on any change in tactics any time soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to reinforce something you already know, that our perception of SWAT is the extreme minority, I&#8217;ll relate this anecdote:</p>
<p>I took my son to one of the local public libraries yesterday in a lower-class, minority/immigrant dominated neighborhood.   A friend from school happened to be there and his mom told me about a &#8220;dog demonstration&#8221; they were about to have, hoping we&#8217;d join them.  The neighborhood mother&#8217;s group had invited the police to show off their drug dog for the kids!  Yippie!</p>
<p>Well, not only did officer Friendly show up to lecture the kids about the police state, he wore his full battle dress SWAT-style uniform.  The parents were uniformly impressed and happy to have the officer show off his german shepherd.  </p>
<p>For me the community outreach thing isn&#8217;t really a problem &#8211; but when they come dressed in combat fatigues it sends an entirely different signal to me.  One that the largely lower/middle income group of parents present didn&#8217;t seem to share.  </p>
<p>So don&#8217;t count on any change in tactics any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hummel</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3890964</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This might be a stupid question, but is it safe to run nicely lined up like that thru an open field in a tactical situation? Isn&#039;t that what all them little APCs they purchased are for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be a stupid question, but is it safe to run nicely lined up like that thru an open field in a tactical situation? Isn&#8217;t that what all them little APCs they purchased are for?</p>
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		<title>By: jmcross</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3890796</link>
		<dc:creator>jmcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OTOH, Augusta Maine Police Department shared the post and seem to tolerate dissent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTOH, Augusta Maine Police Department shared the post and seem to tolerate dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: jmcross</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3890770</link>
		<dc:creator>jmcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 03:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like you&#039;re not alone (B)oscoH. As of now 109 comments with only about a dozen visible. 4 or 5 attaboyz from a few days ago then nothing more than 10 hrs old(all negative). I bet they&#039;ll be gone soon as well. Who says tough guys aren&#039;t sensitive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you&#8217;re not alone (B)oscoH. As of now 109 comments with only about a dozen visible. 4 or 5 attaboyz from a few days ago then nothing more than 10 hrs old(all negative). I bet they&#8217;ll be gone soon as well. Who says tough guys aren&#8217;t sensitive?</p>
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		<title>By: (B)oscoH, Yogurt Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/09/28/scenes-from-a-militarized-america-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3890348</link>
		<dc:creator>(B)oscoH, Yogurt Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I made a snide remark on their Facebook page and got banned :-).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a snide remark on their Facebook page and got banned :-).</p>
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		<title>By: LivibgPre911Still</title>
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		<dc:creator>LivibgPre911Still</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s Kennebec county MAINE... I learned a bit about it as I lived there for 3 years... they need a SWAT Team as much as anyone would need hemroids... those redidents are the most courtious citizens in the U.S.  however... if they are to invade the massholes to the south... oh nevahmind....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Kennebec county MAINE&#8230; I learned a bit about it as I lived there for 3 years&#8230; they need a SWAT Team as much as anyone would need hemroids&#8230; those redidents are the most courtious citizens in the U.S.  however&#8230; if they are to invade the massholes to the south&#8230; oh nevahmind&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Whim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kennebec County is the largest county population wise in the state, with over 120,000 people.  

Maybe that&#039;s why they wanted a SWAT team.

Eventually, the majority of Americans will fully understand that SWAT teams deployed for anything other than a hostage rescue situation are entirely too dangerous for the citizenry.

Using them to serve narcotics warrants in late night, no-knock raids just increases the danger to citizenry primarily.  Wrong door raids occur, and even if served at the correct address, escalates into a violent, chaotic confrontation that does not warrant it.

Ultimately, the judges that sign late night, No-Knock search warrants should just re-label them as:

DEATH Warrants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennebec County is the largest county population wise in the state, with over 120,000 people.  </p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why they wanted a SWAT team.</p>
<p>Eventually, the majority of Americans will fully understand that SWAT teams deployed for anything other than a hostage rescue situation are entirely too dangerous for the citizenry.</p>
<p>Using them to serve narcotics warrants in late night, no-knock raids just increases the danger to citizenry primarily.  Wrong door raids occur, and even if served at the correct address, escalates into a violent, chaotic confrontation that does not warrant it.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the judges that sign late night, No-Knock search warrants should just re-label them as:</p>
<p>DEATH Warrants.</p>
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		<title>By: liberranter</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marie said:

&lt;I&gt;Sadly, Officer Friendly is in a nursing home, on life support.&lt;/I&gt;

Are we really sure that Officer Friendly ever existed in the first place?  Officer Surly is probably the operative reference here.  He was gruff, a bit &quot;thuggish,&quot; as you put it (probably because, as you assert, he had to be, to at least some extent), but didn&#039;t go out of his way to look for trouble.  

If anyone is on life support today, it&#039;s Officer Surly, who has been beaten to a bloody and comatose pulp by Officer 101st Airborne, a steroid and PTSD-addled, out-of-control pyschopath who has taken Surly&#039;s place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie said:</p>
<p><i>Sadly, Officer Friendly is in a nursing home, on life support.</i></p>
<p>Are we really sure that Officer Friendly ever existed in the first place?  Officer Surly is probably the operative reference here.  He was gruff, a bit &#8220;thuggish,&#8221; as you put it (probably because, as you assert, he had to be, to at least some extent), but didn&#8217;t go out of his way to look for trouble.  </p>
<p>If anyone is on life support today, it&#8217;s Officer Surly, who has been beaten to a bloody and comatose pulp by Officer 101st Airborne, a steroid and PTSD-addled, out-of-control pyschopath who has taken Surly&#8217;s place.</p>
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