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Monday, September 24th, 2012
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  1. #1 |  karl | 

    “…advising doctors who perform colonoscopies how to minimize the chance that their patients will explode.”

    Gee, that sounds like good thing.

  2. #2 |  KHH | 

    The last link to the mosque leader is broken

  3. #3 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    All radical muslims have to do to “win” against the USA is form a union.

    Why can’t they come up with these ideas?

  4. #4 |  Charlie O | 

    The two police shootings (murders) are further evidence that under no circumstances should anyone, ever call the police. You’re safer with the bad guys. I think they are less likely to kill you. Cops in this country are not the “brave first responders” that media and government pablum tells you. They are cowards. Plain and simple, cowards.

    From the Altavista Chief of Police:

    “He said the Altavista Police officers, who were carrying less-lethal weapons including tasers, mace and batons, were justified in using deadly force and followed department procedures.”

    Astounding! No common sense, no compassion, nothing. Department policies were followed. The old lady is dead and deservedly so because my cops “FOLLOWED PROCEDURE.” You know what, fuck you and fuck procedure.

    Every cop killed in the line of duty is victory for the American public.

  5. #5 |  Mike | 

    Radley, why do you write “woman shot, killed by police” instead of “woman murdered by police”? Killed is a value-neutral word: The lion killed the gazelle. Murder shows intent.

    How about this.
    83-year-old Virginia woman murdered by police after she called them to report someone breaking into her home.

  6. #6 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Police officer lures actual vicious dog away from family, manages to not fire a single bullet.

    What I’d like to know is how did that cop manage to slip through the screening process for new hires that eliminates anyone who isn’t an egocentric, testosterone saturated, neanderthal?

  7. #7 |  Len | 

    The reason the cop did not shoot the pit bull was professional courtesy.

    I know, I know, not all pit bulls are bad.

  8. #8 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    • “Governments lie.”

    in other news; water found to be wet, sun rises in the east.

  9. #9 |  el coronado | 

    Y’know, we *need* more drug dealers/psycho killaz who are “very intelligent. Very kindhearted.”, doncha think?

  10. #10 |  Anon | 

    I think this is the Mosque story Radley intended to link.

  11. #11 |  Anon | 

    Sorry, not sure how/if embedding works here, I guess. So the link is:

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/adel_daoud_sting_muslim_leader.php

  12. #12 |  BamBam | 

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-09-12/news/33794954_1_houstons-crime-scene-photos-brothers

    2 brothers kill 2 deputies in self defense, post billboard on their property.

  13. #13 |  MikeV | 

    I think that the size of the FBI’s fingerprint database would make it a good research tool to look for the possibility of duplicate prints coming from different people to make a baseline probability by cross checking all the entries in the database against each other.

    If there is one false match in a million or 10 million, then a fingerprint could still be good evidence.

    Or course, most latent prints are far short of the full print captured in the FBI database, so jurors should be made aware of what the actual probability is for a particular match. Again, the FBI database could be used to generate millions of partial fingerprints from their database to estimate the probability of false matches if you have a certain number of points of match.

  14. #14 |  Jack | 

    That police officer with the pitbull truly needs congratulations. This is a case where nobody would have complained if he shot the dog since it was truly vicious. He went way above and beyond to save the dog. However, for the other two officers who shot the octogenarian and double amputee…
    I had hope that when police eventually did kill an old white grandmother or someone truly helpless like an unarmed wheelchair bound person people would speak out and stop putting up with this complete shit by the police…so much for that happening. Might as well just get used to the absolute police state where you can be brutally murdered and people will continue to congratulate the police…

  15. #15 |  PermaLurker | 

    This was my favorite:
    LITERATURE PRIZE: The US Government General Accountability Office, for issuing a report about reports about reports that recommends the preparation of a report about the report about reports about reports.

  16. #16 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “You lose your nephew at the airport but you can’t yell his name because it’s JIHAD. #MuslimRage.”

    What a darkly humorous tweet. And I’m not even in to Twitter. Am I getting jaded or was that freaking hilarious? Why has this not been in a comedy sketch somewhere?

  17. #17 |  Brandon | 

    #3, “Every cop killed in the line of duty is victory for the American public.”

    No, dumbass. Every misbehaving cop who is videotaped, fired and subjected to the legal system on the same grounds as a ‘civilian’ who broke the same laws is a victory for the American public. Every cop killed in the line of duty is an excuse for further entrenchment of the status quo and greater militarization of the police. Besides which, there are cops who are actually decent people who are good at their jobs, and there is just as much if not more of a chance that they will be the ones killed.

  18. #18 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “Meanwhile, the family was able to hand some meat to the officer and he used it to lure the pitbull to his patrol car. When the dog jumped in the back, he quickly slammed the door.”

    Well color me pleasantly surprised! The officer worked with the family and used some common sense and creativity to minimize harm to bystanders and the dog. Working WITH–not against–the community to solve public safety problems. Hey, that sounds like what the police are supposed to be doing, at least according to the community-oriented policing mission statements that show up on most any PD website out there.

  19. #19 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    #16 Brandon:
    Thank you for speaking for the majority of us Agitator Readers that are not blood thirsty pseudo-revolutionaries, psychopathic trolls, weekend commandos or “internet tough guys,” as the commenter Omar has called them in the past. Comments like #3 will certainly be used by Radley’s detractors to try to marginalize his very important contributions as an investigative reporter and social critic. Cheering on violent and/or unnatural death is NOT self-defense. It is just an entrance ramp leading onto the freeway of moral insanity.

    A question for Charlie O:

    “How many liberators want to be dictators?”
    Jello Biafra

  20. #20 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    *Correction:
    I was in error when I said “comments like #3,” as Charlie O’s comment was #4. Apologies to Boyd Durkin.

  21. #21 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “Civilians Down co-founder Arlene Kelly tells the newspaper that she wonders how dangerous a suspect is if he only has one arm and one good leg.”

    First off, that is a great name for a group protesting police violence (Usual caveat: The police are civilians too). And she asks a pretty obvious question. How the hell do you justify shooting an amputee that has anything other than a firearm (or a crossbow or anything else that fires a projectile at high velocity)? Keep your distance and control the scene until you find out what he’s got. This story could almost be a really cynical piece from The Onion. Feared for your life? What the hell?

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m well aware that one can do nasty things with a pen. You just have to be quick and have a little knowledge of anatomy. While working in healthcare security, I watched a video of one of my co-workers being stabbed multiple times with a pen. Fortunately his wounds were pretty superficial and the suspect didn’t hit anything too vital. But the suspect in that case was an able-bodied, possibly psychotic parolee, not a wheelchair-bound amputee. Officer Marin will have to do some pretty creative report writing to make this one sound justifiable.

  22. #22 |  Nancy Lebovitz | 

    #11 | Anon

    Html works here.

    #17 | Brandon

    I strongly agree.

  23. #23 |  Pablo | 

    Yes you can do some serious damage with a pen. But you also have to be within arms’ length of the person to do so. This guy had only one arm. So if he was using that arm to wield the pen in a threatening manner, how could he move his wheelchair? It’s not like he had a 2nd arm to rotate the wheels or operate the electric control. And if he couldnt’ move his wheelchair how could he be a threat to anyone?

    Note that this is this cop’s second shooting in 3 years. Most cops go their entire careers without shooting anyone.

  24. #24 |  CyniCAl | 

    @Brandon

    “Besides which, there are cops who are actually decent people who are good at their jobs, and there is just as much if not more of a chance that they will be the ones killed.”

    You went too far. This statement is false and threatens to invalidate the first part of your comment.

  25. #25 |  Jim | 

    Agreed. Unfortunately here in the Land of the Free there are two types of cops – bad ones, and the ones who cover for them/look the other way.

  26. #26 |  Mario | 

    Love the story about the 83-year-old in Virginia. It’s like Barney Fife shot and killed Aunt Bea.

  27. #27 |  Weird Willy | 

    Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is an “Islamophobe” and “fringe demagogue” whose movie is “noxious?” While I have, at times, agreed with and respected some of Bill Keller’s work in the past, unwarranted, negative characterizations as these can only reduce my opinion of him.

  28. #28 |  RT | 

    So, the other guy backed out only because he was concerned about killing “random Americans” vs just members of the military? Oh yeah, sounds like he’s innocent as all git out.

    And those poll numbers on the TPM site made me laugh.

  29. #29 |  Weird Willy | 

    “such as these”

  30. #30 |  StrongStyleFiction | 

    Just how close is the FBI getting to entrapment with these stings? They are practically one step away from committing a terrorist act themselves and just framing someone for it.

  31. #31 |  John C. Randolph | 

    Is it just morbid curiosity on my part to wonder if anyone ever actually has exploded as a result of a colonoscopy?

    -jcr

  32. #32 |  Bergman | 

    Re: Jim, #25:

    Agreed. The way conspiracy and accomplice laws work, at least for us peons, it’s hard to imagine a cop who isn’t a bad apple. Because if the standards on what makes someone an accomplice were applied to police departments, nearly every department out there would be seriously in danger of prosecution under the RICO Act!

  33. #33 |  Ted S. | 

    The double amputee with a pen was in a group home. How could anybody think he got a weapon in there in the first place?

  34. #34 |  Ted S. | 

    @John Randolph:

    Even better, is it on youtube?

  35. #35 |  Weird Willy | 

    StrongStyleFiction, if you perform some research on PATCON you will see that the “practically one step” you mention has already been taken.

  36. #36 |  marco73 | 

    The Houston cop shooting story is falling apart, so the only thing that the spokespeople are saying now is that the shooting is under investigation.

    The officer doing the shooting was not the one “trapped” by the wheelchair guy, the partner was the one trapped. So to protect the partner, the officer opened up on the man in the wheelchair, inside a building, with other people present.

    The woman in Virginia was afraid to go into her house because some might have broken in, so she was walking to her sister’s house when the cops showed up, and using their super cop powers determined that the 83 year old woman was an armed burglar and shot her. Again, now the shooting is under investigation, so no new information can be released.

    Why anyone calls the cops anymore is beyond me. Wait until the crisis is over, then call up someone to write up a report for the insurance company.

  37. #37 |  Marty | 

    my standard speech about calling 911 is that 911 is a sledgehammer. if you need a sledgehammer, it might be the perfect tool for you- if you call for something minor, your shit could get busted up. Don’t call for a sledgehammer if the job calls for a tack (tact) hammer.

    these cops aren’t learning to defuse situations, they’re learning tactics. they’re attending classes put on by DHS, where some DHS asshole insists that, ‘Missouri has more terrorists than any other state.’ all of these young cops grew up in a police state environment- random searches and drug testing at school, a constant barrage of DARE propaganda, COPS shows on TV, etc. I’ve debated enough cops about this nonsense that I firmly believe this stuff in entrenched in their brains. if they make it long enough, and run enough calls, they might develop a contrary opinion about their duties.

    until we stop brainwashing our kids in these shitty schools and bombarding them with all this propaganda, we’re going to be stuck with armed true believers who are looking to uphold the Merican Way of life… the same holds true for politicians, prosecutors, and judges.

  38. #38 |  H. Rearden | 

    Someone needs to do a reverse sting on the FBI. Spout off on Alex Jones. When approached by another to plan an attack, explain that you were feigning a tough guy, ‘but wouldn’t it be great if’….Then document their efforts at entrapment. When they hand you the fake bomb, detain the guy for arrest.

    On second thought, if you live through the ordeal they’ll surely trump up charges on you anyway. Perhaps it would make for a good movie.

  39. #39 |  liberranter | 

    @#6 (Dave Krueger): Given the utter incompetence and stupidity that characterizes most swine herds, somebody f***ed up here, big time. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that this cop has already been kicked off the force and that person/people who allowed him to get all the way through the porkademy and graduate have been disciplined (probably more severely than had they murdered a Mere Mundane or a Mere Mundane’s dog).

  40. #40 |  liberranter | 

    Besides which, there are cops who are actually decent people who are good at their jobs, and there is just as much if not more of a chance that they will be the ones killed.

    I doubt that, Brandon. “Good cops” (i.e., peace officers) don’t usually last long enough on most forces to ever get into such situations. More likely, if any such cops are KITLOD, it’s usually at the hands of the thugscum that populate the force in the majority, probably as preventive measure to keep them from “ratting out” the majority’s acts of criminal violence.

  41. #41 |  el coronado | 

    “Someone needs to do a reverse sting on the FBI”

    IANAL, thank God, but you might wanna look into that real *real* carefully before ya try it. ‘Stinging’ our beloved secret police would presumably involve having to fool them, no? Telling a whopper or two? Then you release the tapes; make the FBI look like the incompetent fools they are; fame + fortune ensues.

    For about 10 seconds…..then the most powerful, most press-conscious, most image-conscious law enforcement agency in the world charges you with the felony of ‘lying to a federal agent’. The tape is yanked off the web and scrubbed from all memory because it’s now ‘evidence in a criminal case’: yours.

  42. #42 |  WillyT | 

    Glad to see you back, Radley

  43. #43 |  wunder | 

    Thank you for posting the Liverpool/Hillsborough story. As a Liverpool fan, I have been following this story, and when the report finally came out I thought of you and the National Police Misconduct feed and all the great work you’ve done. It also shows that this is a human problem, not just a US problem, and that we need people to stay dedicated and vigilant. Thank you for being one of those people.

  44. #44 |  Linda | 

    Wow, between the elderly woman and the man in the wheel chair with a pen, I can not even come up with adequate words to say. Disgusted just does not seem to fit. Can’t stop shaking my head in disgust and dibelief.

  45. #45 |  Jerry Atlansky | 

    POLICE KILL AT WILL WITHOUT DUE CAUSE

    WE THE PEOPLE, OF THESE GREAT UNITED STATES after researching/investigating nationwide as all volunteers, self-funded, up to ten hours per day six days per week since Jan. 1. 2006, we have revealed that not one of the 19,000 + law enforcement bureaus from federal to American Native have any procedures nor training when a officer sees a officer start to violate a persons legal rights.

    The nations first and only law, Oregon State Senate Bill 111 Police Use of Deadly Physical Force with our attached program, Truly Reforming Law Enforcement mandated to be in full force July 1, 2008.

    Our very top law enfrorcement and government officials refuse to even discuss this subject to continue to make Americans have the “Fear of God”
    when they see officers and not hold any government members accountable
    for outright murder.

    The general public receive 25 years to life and officers get three days off with pay for the same murders.

    Not one person has seen/heard on television news that a officer made a officer stop illegal actions against a citizen throughout the nation per our research.

    PLEASE Google:

    1. Program, Truly Reforming Law Enforcement

    2. RISE IN POLICE BRUTALITY US TODAY NEWSPAPER Dec. 18, 2007

    3. Jerry Atlansky, Oregon State Senate Hearing Bill 111 Law Enforcement Use of Deadly Physical Force 2007

    Contact your State Police, County Deputy Sheriff & City Police Chief to set up the five major specific steps with clear policy and accountability to create a much more safer Utah.

    Our documents will prove to all reasonalble concerned people, we recieved and sent via email, United States Postal Service Certified letters with signed receipts and Fax letters with receipts of letters received, and two sources regarding law suits against a top government official.

    We may be contacted for any reason at: jmatlansky@gmail.com and compare the cooperation we will give you, and welcome constructive remarks and questions.

    Future success,

    Jerry Atlansky, Founder/Chairperson
    United States Police/Oregon State Police-
    Independent Citizens Review Board
    Portland, Oregon 97213
    jmatlansky@gmail.com

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