And my ideas for what to do with girls who deliberately lie about their age when they’re supposed to be “off limits” would make that guy in _Law Abiding Citizen_ puke. Or throw himself on the floor at my feet, chanting “I’m not worthy! I’m not worthy! Teach me, sensei! I am only an egg!”

And wow…the vitriol against teenage girls…geez, people, get a grip. You make them all out to be some sort of mind controlling monsters. I think someone got dissed by the popular girls back in high school and the rest of you never dated the homecoming queen.

If I believed in reincarnation, I’d peg you as a return of some ignorant redneck who tried (and failed) to farm a piece of wasteland during the day and who led lynch mobs by night.

We all know you are a fool but we also know you dont belong on that list … but what we know does not matter because you will be on that list regardless. The system does not care about the details and your life will be screwed up. A life sentence for a mistake…sounds about fair in YOUR opinion. Walk a mile in someone elses shoes then you will know.

The reasons for the database is valid, the execution of the law is crap.

Heck, if you can’t afford that, I’d bet that lots of them would be happy if you’d buy them a beer and tell them of your warm regards.

Remember, you are the change you’ve been waiting for.

And, boy, talk about your bad luck. The only two teenagers this guy ever raped both resulted in charges. What are the odds?

I know that if I met someone who admitted to being on one, or if I discovered that someone I knew was on one, I wouldn’t think a thing of it. Just like I no longer consider someone having done jail/prison time to be any kind of stigma. What passes for “law,” “justice,” and “punishment” in this fascialist (thank you, Tom DiLorenzo) excuse for a country has become so perverted that what was originally intended as, and once actually legitimately used to punish crimes against natural law (i.e., actual violent crimes against person and property) has become a politicized weapon that has claimed more victims than it has restored justice. Given the absolutely criminal amorality of district attorneys offices and criminal courts, and given the unstoppable conviction machines that the courts have become, I no longer have any faith whatsoever that justice has been done by any of them or the people who staff them. As far as I’m concerned, there is so little integrity in the system that nine out ten people currently locked up are probably either innocent of any crime, are serving time under a coerced plea bargain having nothing to do with anything they’ve actually done or not done, or have been locked up under conditions grossly disproportionate to any actual offense they might have committed. I would, therefore, free all of them, right this minute, if I had the power to do so. In other words, I’d restore the presumption of innocence.

But wouldn’t that create a great “danger to society?”

Probably, but the PTB should have thought of that before they corrupted and compromised the system beyond salvage.

SO, you guys and gals who are unfortunate enough to find yourselves on SORs, let me just say that not only do I feel for you, but I fully support your right to live as freely as any of the rest of us – to the extent that any of us can live “free” in this incipient Reichssicherheitsstaat. I would welcome you as my neighbors. Were I a business owner, I would gladly hire you for positions for which you were qualified, demanding no more than what I’d demand of any other employee (i.e., competence and dedication to the job). All of this despite your presence on a SOR. In fact, were I not a libertarian, I’d be very tempted to practice “reverse discrimination” and give you preferential hiring treatment over some of the sanctimonious scumbags who would have you paying for your (non-)crimes for the rest of your lives, just to tweak the majority’s –and the State’s– nose.

So hang in there. One of these days, common sense, like gravity, is going to inevitably reassert itself.

I was a girl so I got even more benefit of the doubt. And if I were a vindictive soul I could have put at least a dozen boys in prison and on the registry for LIFE had I wanted to.

Girls are manipulative, vindictive and cruel, to each other, to their peers, to anyone that gets in their way of what THEY want or believe they need. They also base 90% of their decisions of how they ‘feel’ about it on an emotional level not pratically. If you don’t believe me, ask your mother, the behavior of girls hasn’t changed all that much in the last 70 years, just the publicity of it all has changed…

WOW, I can’t believe that a woman is actually vocalizing what so many men out there are thinking. I wish it weren’t true, but only a moron, or someone living in a cave without contact with human civilization for the last several decades would argue with anything you’ve said.

This is why, as Fred Reed so brilliantly put it in one of his many epistles of wisdom a few years back, American men need to “keep [their] DNA to [them]selves.”

I can think of some really nasty remedies that would put an immediate stop to this kind of manipulation, but I’d probably be labeled a sadistic misogynist for listing them.

In other words, its fine with you if the State (which NEVER makes bad decisions) uses mob hysteria to punish some jerk in a way not spelled out to the jury that convicted him … if he ever actually GOT a jury trial.

When and if the Police State I expect to live out my life under manifests, I will take comfort in the knowledge that when it catches up to YOU it will be a manifestation of cosmic justice.

Or gone, you’re missing the point. Or you’re just a troll. Or both. But willfully ignoring what other people are saying just to reiterate that you personally think someone is a shit sandwich (and possibly a liar to boot) doesn’t make you look like the world’s most skilled thinker. Saying “Never mind that, think of the children” over and over again isn’t going to win you any friends, especially here. So yeah, the guy had sex with a 13-year-old girl. For that, he’s punished. He did a bad thing. He shouldn’t have done it. And while I don’t believe for a second that this guy is lying about his circumstances, for the sake or argument let’s go ahead and assume that he forcibly and brutally raped that girl (once again pointing out that I don’t believe that to be the case). If that is the case, apparently he got off lightly. But even if he’d been thrown in prison for 50 years, should he then be registered for life? Are murderers registered for life? Do killers have to report to all and sundry that they’re moving into the neighborhood? Should people caught taking a drunken leak in public be lumped into the same category as violent child rapists, with no way to tell the two apart?

Answer the questions. Jerk.

Which is where my particular sympathy rather dies.

I’m for tight control over who’s listed on sex offender registries, and for them not to be available to the public…but the gent in the op would meet the criteria for listing, afaik.

I’d never be happy with him taking a job which involved contact with kids. Sorry if that offends anyone.

(Of course, the FIRST case would have been dismissed as not in the Public Interest to prosecute in the UK…)

But because you think he’s a shit sandwich (ie. you don’t like him – wtf does ‘like’ that have to do with justice again?) and without knowing anything else about him you are 100% certain that he’s a lying scumbag.

So let’s go ahead, let’s punish him and other guys like him for their entire life time because we think they are lying and we feel they might, maybe, possibly, could do something else at some point, somewhere, somehow. Yup.

Wait… That’s how it is right now. Justice has been served!

Well, guess what? You are getting your way; your way is the way things work now. This guy IS going to suffer for the rest of his life. So STFU.

I can’t imagine why you are interested in this discussion.

Anyone who would doubt this man’s word is clearly a fascist.

Not making fun of the idea of protecting children–I would do anything to protect mine from real danger. Real dangers would include LEOs running through my house with their guns drawn.

Cops devote their time to these stings because that’s where the money is. More convictions = more money.

It’s control. That’s all it is about. The people on the sex offender registries, no matter what their classification, get told where to live, who they can come in contact with, what jobs they can hold, if they can vote, where and when they can travel, and what they can buy.

Forget about the question “Do i like the guy? Is he cute and cuddly and pure?” Seriously? So what if he was a fuck up? He served his time.

Is an individuals “likability” what our legal system should be about? How is a life time sentence at all OK in cases such as the above “asshole” and how does it not violate the 8th amendment?

What, because we don’t already have an enormous unemployable underclass of people with felony convictions thanks to the follies of the drug and consensual sex war? We need even more?

“But that’s legal, isn’t it?”

Actually, mere thoughts can get a person arrested these days. If anyone remembers Scott Ritter, he was sentenced to one and a half to five and a half years in prison. His crime: masturbating in front of a web cam for, and engaging in sexually explicit online conversations with, an undercover cop posing as a fifteen year old girl.

Now, Ritter’s conduct hardly qualifies him for Citizen of the Year, but prison for thinking (or fantasizing) that the person on the other end was a minor?! And one really has to wonder about a society in which cops devote their time to these sorts of “stings.”

THIS. This is the hysteria that drives the sex offender registry and makes it impossible for someone to defend themselves against charges of a sex offense. There is no examination of the facts: is this person dangerous? Instead, an accusation need only be noted and people like Alex and Or gone are off and running with their lurid imaginings.

For all we know, Alex and Or gone spend time fantasizing about sex with eight year old children. But that’s legal, isn’t it?

The sex offender registry must be abolished.