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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3765267</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[school is prison. not much difference except that at school they pretend there is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>school is prison. not much difference except that at school they pretend there is.</p>
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		<title>By: theCL Report: The Rot Runs Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>theCL Report: The Rot Runs Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3760344</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lemme see if I got this straight, Bobby - 

First, the horrifyingly neanderthal nature of some of the comments here give you the vapors, and send you swooning into your fainting chair, as if your corset was too tight and making you lighheaded. Then when someone mocks out your pompously sanctimonious moaning, *they&#039;re* the victim?? 

You must have a very rich fantasy life, don&#039;t you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemme see if I got this straight, Bobby &#8211; </p>
<p>First, the horrifyingly neanderthal nature of some of the comments here give you the vapors, and send you swooning into your fainting chair, as if your corset was too tight and making you lighheaded. Then when someone mocks out your pompously sanctimonious moaning, *they&#8217;re* the victim?? </p>
<p>You must have a very rich fantasy life, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3760135</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank that was stoopid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank that was stoopid.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3759643</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should never lock any one up for anything! All they need is love, and to listen to Skrillex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should never lock any one up for anything! All they need is love, and to listen to Skrillex.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Black</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3759495</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I&#039;m under you. Does that unbunch your panties?
Show me more, you poor victim you. I&#039;ll bring some woolite to your period party and you can have a real good cry as you make it all about you.
Brunch?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m under you. Does that unbunch your panties?<br />
Show me more, you poor victim you. I&#8217;ll bring some woolite to your period party and you can have a real good cry as you make it all about you.<br />
Brunch?</p>
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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3758205</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Golly. You 2 guys are really just too too beautiful for this ugly world. Thank God we have you to look down on us, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golly. You 2 guys are really just too too beautiful for this ugly world. Thank God we have you to look down on us, right?</p>
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		<title>By: demize!</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3757735</link>
		<dc:creator>demize!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 02:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the carnival of empathy deficiency is in full swing. Hold the corndog a little closer and you can see the bubbles in the batter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the carnival of empathy deficiency is in full swing. Hold the corndog a little closer and you can see the bubbles in the batter.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Black</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3757385</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose some could have said this photo was to be a thinkpiece to see what one could read in it...but sitting back as a spectator, seeing what some of these folks read into it was a disturbing read into THEM. Takes all kinds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose some could have said this photo was to be a thinkpiece to see what one could read in it&#8230;but sitting back as a spectator, seeing what some of these folks read into it was a disturbing read into THEM. Takes all kinds.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3757138</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danny,

Yeah, we get that...that is why it is, as Cynical in New York put it, fucking disgusting.  To treat juvenile offenders as if they were all the same is repugnant.

Seriously look at that picture.  Is that kid a murderer?  I don&#039;t know.  Did he simply swipe some candy from the multiplex?  I don&#039;t know.  But that either way he ends up in that facility should bother anyone with even an ounce of rationality.  Seriously...that is where we send preteen offenders for swiping candy bars?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,</p>
<p>Yeah, we get that&#8230;that is why it is, as Cynical in New York put it, fucking disgusting.  To treat juvenile offenders as if they were all the same is repugnant.</p>
<p>Seriously look at that picture.  Is that kid a murderer?  I don&#8217;t know.  Did he simply swipe some candy from the multiplex?  I don&#8217;t know.  But that either way he ends up in that facility should bother anyone with even an ounce of rationality.  Seriously&#8230;that is where we send preteen offenders for swiping candy bars?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have a serious retard infestation today.  

MEMO TO RETARDS: 

Juvenile prisons, like adult prisons, don&#039;t have separate facilities for people who are in for petty crimes and people who are in for serious crimes.  The kid in the picture could be in for murder, or he could be in for stealing from the multiplex candy bins, or anything in between.  Whatever it is, he ends up in the prison facility they have available.  What you see pictured is the prison facility they have available, for whoever is being held.

Somewhere down the line, a juvenile (or adult) might be moved to one or another facility according to &quot;security classification,&quot; but this is not solely determined by the seriousness of the offense, and a lower-security facility is no necessarily less &quot;crappy&quot; than a high-security facility.  What you see pictured could be low security, and there might be a high security facility that looks a lot cleaner and better.

END OF MEMO TO RETARDS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a serious retard infestation today.  </p>
<p>MEMO TO RETARDS: </p>
<p>Juvenile prisons, like adult prisons, don&#8217;t have separate facilities for people who are in for petty crimes and people who are in for serious crimes.  The kid in the picture could be in for murder, or he could be in for stealing from the multiplex candy bins, or anything in between.  Whatever it is, he ends up in the prison facility they have available.  What you see pictured is the prison facility they have available, for whoever is being held.</p>
<p>Somewhere down the line, a juvenile (or adult) might be moved to one or another facility according to &#8220;security classification,&#8221; but this is not solely determined by the seriousness of the offense, and a lower-security facility is no necessarily less &#8220;crappy&#8221; than a high-security facility.  What you see pictured could be low security, and there might be a high security facility that looks a lot cleaner and better.</p>
<p>END OF MEMO TO RETARDS</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3756957</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So can we tell Chirs Mallory to kindly F00k off now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So can we tell Chirs Mallory to kindly F00k off now?</p>
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		<title>By: En Passant</title>
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		<dc:creator>En Passant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#17 &#124;  PersonFromPorlock wrote August 29th, 2012 at 12:51 pm:&lt;blockquote&gt;So, how do we know the kid isn’t in there for the rape and axe-murder of two elderly nuns? Or alternately, sneaking a smoke in the boys’ room? The cell is surely bleak, but what’s just out of the frame? ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t think that either the offense or &quot;what&#039;s just out of the frame&quot; matters.

The kid is very young, pre-adolescent, definitely not adult. No matter what his crime, no child should be confined in that manner. I would go so far as to say neither should adults.

I don&#039;t think that I&#039;m a bleeding heart liberal. I just don&#039;t want to live in a medieval society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 |  PersonFromPorlock wrote August 29th, 2012 at 12:51 pm:<br />
<blockquote>So, how do we know the kid isn’t in there for the rape and axe-murder of two elderly nuns? Or alternately, sneaking a smoke in the boys’ room? The cell is surely bleak, but what’s just out of the frame? &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that either the offense or &#8220;what&#8217;s just out of the frame&#8221; matters.</p>
<p>The kid is very young, pre-adolescent, definitely not adult. No matter what his crime, no child should be confined in that manner. I would go so far as to say neither should adults.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that I&#8217;m a bleeding heart liberal. I just don&#8217;t want to live in a medieval society.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeV</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seems to be the main site for all of the images in this series.
http://www.juvenile-in-justice.com

Here is a look at it by state:
http://www.juvenile-in-justice.com/locations

Doesn’t look like they were after Mississippi in particular, but that image is one of the worst I saw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be the main site for all of the images in this series.<br />
<a href="http://www.juvenile-in-justice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.juvenile-in-justice.com</a></p>
<p>Here is a look at it by state:<br />
<a href="http://www.juvenile-in-justice.com/locations" rel="nofollow">http://www.juvenile-in-justice.com/locations</a></p>
<p>Doesn’t look like they were after Mississippi in particular, but that image is one of the worst I saw.</p>
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		<title>By: B Mac</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3756465</link>
		<dc:creator>B Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The photographer is probably not allowed to disclose a juvenile&#039;s offense either by law (usually) or as part of the agreement to do the photos.

And the point of the series isn&#039;t to claim racism, since there are white children in the photo series.

However, I did see in one of the other pics that children can get sent to that place for a parole violation, so they couldn&#039;t have done anything THAT bad.

David seems to sum it up nicely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photographer is probably not allowed to disclose a juvenile&#8217;s offense either by law (usually) or as part of the agreement to do the photos.</p>
<p>And the point of the series isn&#8217;t to claim racism, since there are white children in the photo series.</p>
<p>However, I did see in one of the other pics that children can get sent to that place for a parole violation, so they couldn&#8217;t have done anything THAT bad.</p>
<p>David seems to sum it up nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3756441</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey el coronado,

As I said in post #12, I couldn&#039;t find any information on what that kid did to be in Harrison County Juvenile Detention Center.  However, the links I posted showed photos of other people in juvenile detention centers throughout the country.  Inmates were being held for crimes ranging from drug possession to murder.  There&#039;s an anecdote from the director of a juvenile detention center in Reno Nevada who recalled an eight-year-old being brought in for taking a bagel.

I was just trying to help people out.  I agree that the ACLU post didn&#039;t include any context. That is why I did the digging in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey el coronado,</p>
<p>As I said in post #12, I couldn&#8217;t find any information on what that kid did to be in Harrison County Juvenile Detention Center.  However, the links I posted showed photos of other people in juvenile detention centers throughout the country.  Inmates were being held for crimes ranging from drug possession to murder.  There&#8217;s an anecdote from the director of a juvenile detention center in Reno Nevada who recalled an eight-year-old being brought in for taking a bagel.</p>
<p>I was just trying to help people out.  I agree that the ACLU post didn&#8217;t include any context. That is why I did the digging in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3756059</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Done that, Nobody. Not one word as to what the kid did to be there. Your point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done that, Nobody. Not one word as to what the kid did to be there. Your point?</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I highly recommend that those of you criticizing the image at least click through the links from my earlier posts.  I&#039;m quite certain that &#039;The makings of a junior college&#039; are not just outside the frame of that photo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I highly recommend that those of you criticizing the image at least click through the links from my earlier posts.  I&#8217;m quite certain that &#8216;The makings of a junior college&#8217; are not just outside the frame of that photo.</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/29/school-to-prison-in-not-so-many-words/comment-page-1/#comment-3755882</link>
		<dc:creator>PersonFromPorlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, how do we know the kid isn&#039;t in there for the rape and axe-murder of two elderly nuns? Or alternately, sneaking a smoke in the boys&#039; room? The cell is surely bleak, but what&#039;s just out of the frame? The makings of a junior college? Extensive skills training programs? Nothing but more bleakness, enlivened only by sadistic guards?

The point is that while much can be read &lt;i&gt;into&lt;/i&gt; the image, nothing can be read out of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how do we know the kid isn&#8217;t in there for the rape and axe-murder of two elderly nuns? Or alternately, sneaking a smoke in the boys&#8217; room? The cell is surely bleak, but what&#8217;s just out of the frame? The makings of a junior college? Extensive skills training programs? Nothing but more bleakness, enlivened only by sadistic guards?</p>
<p>The point is that while much can be read <i>into</i> the image, nothing can be read out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The takeaway is what it should always be. That we&#039;re a monstrous society of cruel punitive hypocrites.  If we weren&#039;t, we wouldn&#039;t send anyone to live in something like that. 

I won&#039;t pretend to know how to handle those people who really do make life miserable and dangerous for the rest of us, but I can safely say that this isn&#039;t it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The takeaway is what it should always be. That we&#8217;re a monstrous society of cruel punitive hypocrites.  If we weren&#8217;t, we wouldn&#8217;t send anyone to live in something like that. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t pretend to know how to handle those people who really do make life miserable and dangerous for the rest of us, but I can safely say that this isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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