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	<title>Comments on: The Dogs of Asset Forfeiture</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Asset forfeiture roundup - Overlawyered</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3784779</link>
		<dc:creator>Asset forfeiture roundup - Overlawyered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 04:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the town he needs a police dog because &#8220;the city is missing out on possible revenues&#8221; [dog testimonials; more Tennessee, via Eapen Thampy of Americans for Forfeiture Reform, guestblogging last month at [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the town he needs a police dog because &#8220;the city is missing out on possible revenues&#8221; [dog testimonials; more Tennessee, via Eapen Thampy of Americans for Forfeiture Reform, guestblogging last month at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3778535</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also interesting is the story of Mr Mario Roberto Jenkins, and how he died: 

&quot;Corporal Mario Jenkins was shot and killed by an Orlando police officer who mistook him for an armed suspect at a University of Central Florida football game.

He was working a plainclothes assignment with other university police and Florida Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco agents, to combat under age drinking at the football game.&quot;

http://www.odmp.org/officer/17878-corporal-mario-roberto-jenkins#ixzz25Q6wMsw8]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also interesting is the story of Mr Mario Roberto Jenkins, and how he died: </p>
<p>&#8220;Corporal Mario Jenkins was shot and killed by an Orlando police officer who mistook him for an armed suspect at a University of Central Florida football game.</p>
<p>He was working a plainclothes assignment with other university police and Florida Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco agents, to combat under age drinking at the football game.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.odmp.org/officer/17878-corporal-mario-roberto-jenkins#ixzz25Q6wMsw8" rel="nofollow">http://www.odmp.org/officer/17878-corporal-mario-roberto-jenkins#ixzz25Q6wMsw8</a></p>
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		<title>By: contrarian</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3772129</link>
		<dc:creator>contrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 03:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A &quot;currency detection K9&quot;? That says it all. Skip the pretense, just screen for the presence of currency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;currency detection K9&#8243;? That says it all. Skip the pretense, just screen for the presence of currency.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3772013</link>
		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whim: That&#039;s both too cynical and not cynical enough. Dogs read body language and know what their master wants without any necessity for a &quot;signal&quot;. Unless the dog handler is unusually observant, he&#039;ll fool himself into believing in the dog&#039;s reliability. (Double-blind test? Not in police procedures...) 

And it&#039;s not just dogs; the trainer of a horse named &quot;Clever Hans&quot; genuinely believed the horse could do arithmetic, but actually it just tapped it&#039;s foot until it saw the trainer tensing up as it reached the correct count.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whim: That&#8217;s both too cynical and not cynical enough. Dogs read body language and know what their master wants without any necessity for a &#8220;signal&#8221;. Unless the dog handler is unusually observant, he&#8217;ll fool himself into believing in the dog&#8217;s reliability. (Double-blind test? Not in police procedures&#8230;) </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just dogs; the trainer of a horse named &#8220;Clever Hans&#8221; genuinely believed the horse could do arithmetic, but actually it just tapped it&#8217;s foot until it saw the trainer tensing up as it reached the correct count.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3757485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@10 -- Bullshit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@10 &#8212; Bullshit!</p>
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		<title>By: KPRyan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3753685</link>
		<dc:creator>KPRyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 06:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#2...
Amen.  Cruelty knows no bounds.

 It has been proven dogs can be trained to detect some cancers on humans.  

My dog happens to be trained to sniff out golf balls (I live near a course and my boys have a business re-selling golf balls).  My dog finds 2 - 4 dozen per night.

Can dogs be trained to find drugs?  Of course - they can also be trained (very easily) to &#039;Alert&#039; when they find golf balls (or drugs) and at the same time to &#039;Alert&#039; when their handler gives a specific signal.  

In truth, the fact that a dog &#039;alerts&#039; means nothing at all - he could be following one of many signals that direct him to alert.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2&#8230;<br />
Amen.  Cruelty knows no bounds.</p>
<p> It has been proven dogs can be trained to detect some cancers on humans.  </p>
<p>My dog happens to be trained to sniff out golf balls (I live near a course and my boys have a business re-selling golf balls).  My dog finds 2 &#8211; 4 dozen per night.</p>
<p>Can dogs be trained to find drugs?  Of course &#8211; they can also be trained (very easily) to &#8216;Alert&#8217; when they find golf balls (or drugs) and at the same time to &#8216;Alert&#8217; when their handler gives a specific signal.  </p>
<p>In truth, the fact that a dog &#8216;alerts&#8217; means nothing at all &#8211; he could be following one of many signals that direct him to alert.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3752670</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 02:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@9 - Same basic training methods!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9 &#8211; Same basic training methods!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3752564</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 01:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, those damn epileptics and their police powers - who knew?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, those damn epileptics and their police powers &#8211; who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3751859</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@6 - Same way anti-epileptic dogs work, ban em!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@6 &#8211; Same way anti-epileptic dogs work, ban em!</p>
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		<title>By: johnl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3751823</link>
		<dc:creator>johnl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if that lab could help me find my wallet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if that lab could help me find my wallet.</p>
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		<title>By: Whim</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3751660</link>
		<dc:creator>Whim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The drug dog &quot;alerts&quot; on a pre-arranged signal from the dog handler.

The dog alerts to please his handler, and to get a treat.

It&#039;s the way dogs have been trained for eons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The drug dog &#8220;alerts&#8221; on a pre-arranged signal from the dog handler.</p>
<p>The dog alerts to please his handler, and to get a treat.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the way dogs have been trained for eons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3751091</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Drugs&#039; my wazoo. Anti-4th amendment dogs, period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Drugs&#8217; my wazoo. Anti-4th amendment dogs, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3750865</link>
		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s my proposal... a number you can call (when pulled over)
to get your own impartial drug sniff, just as you are
entitled to regarding evidence in court.
If both dogs (gov&#039;t and impartial) &quot;alert&quot; they can search.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my proposal&#8230; a number you can call (when pulled over)<br />
to get your own impartial drug sniff, just as you are<br />
entitled to regarding evidence in court.<br />
If both dogs (gov&#8217;t and impartial) &#8220;alert&#8221; they can search.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3750761</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, think of the minor inconvenience of having to reship the small amount of drugs these dogs interdict! It probably adds a few percent to the costs of running drugs.

&quot;We spent 3 years and millions of dollars on this bust! We probably set the drug cartels back 10, maybe 15 minutes!&quot;

Don&#039;t these clowns realize that if you need to ship 500 tons of pot, you ship 550 tons to compensate for the 50 tons that will be interdicted?

You lost the war, fools. Just legalize the shit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, think of the minor inconvenience of having to reship the small amount of drugs these dogs interdict! It probably adds a few percent to the costs of running drugs.</p>
<p>&#8220;We spent 3 years and millions of dollars on this bust! We probably set the drug cartels back 10, maybe 15 minutes!&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t these clowns realize that if you need to ship 500 tons of pot, you ship 550 tons to compensate for the 50 tons that will be interdicted?</p>
<p>You lost the war, fools. Just legalize the shit.</p>
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		<title>By: liberranter</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/28/the-dogs-of-asset-forfeiture/comment-page-1/#comment-3750617</link>
		<dc:creator>liberranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Training dogs to be drug warriors - the ultimate in animal abuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Training dogs to be drug warriors &#8211; the ultimate in animal abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah, that guy...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeah, that guy...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re a long way from Lassie going for help for little Timmy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re a long way from Lassie going for help for little Timmy.</p>
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