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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Arturo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3751150</link>
		<dc:creator>Arturo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;What if you needed a license to open a doughnut shop?

While it may not be specific to doughnuts, it&#039;s hard to imagine a doughnut shop (where doughnuts are actually prepared, not just sold) opening anywhere in the United States without multiple licenses associated with health and safety regulations.  Then there&#039;s the business licensing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;What if you needed a license to open a doughnut shop?</p>
<p>While it may not be specific to doughnuts, it&#8217;s hard to imagine a doughnut shop (where doughnuts are actually prepared, not just sold) opening anywhere in the United States without multiple licenses associated with health and safety regulations.  Then there&#8217;s the business licensing.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3750625</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Obesity in the poor is partly a result of subsidies to less healthy food
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Not to mention subsidies of the actual poor.  Oh, I know it is unpopular to say out loud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Obesity in the poor is partly a result of subsidies to less healthy food
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<p>Not to mention subsidies of the actual poor.  Oh, I know it is unpopular to say out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: marco73</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are already running Dr. Cohen&#039;s experiment in public schools. Many schools here in Florida have banned soda and candy bars in vending machines. So what is the result so far?
Convenience stores around area schools have seen increases in purchases of soda and candy bars by school children who then resell the products at a markup in school. 
Schools have of course responded by searching back packs for &quot;illegal&quot; soda and candy bars. Thus school children are smuggling soda and candy bars into schools with a variety of clever methods, and marking up the prices accordingly.
I have not yet seen any reports of police running &quot;sugar&quot; raids in schools, but how soon before that happens? Once we win the war on drugs, all those SWAT units are going to need something to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are already running Dr. Cohen&#8217;s experiment in public schools. Many schools here in Florida have banned soda and candy bars in vending machines. So what is the result so far?<br />
Convenience stores around area schools have seen increases in purchases of soda and candy bars by school children who then resell the products at a markup in school.<br />
Schools have of course responded by searching back packs for &#8220;illegal&#8221; soda and candy bars. Thus school children are smuggling soda and candy bars into schools with a variety of clever methods, and marking up the prices accordingly.<br />
I have not yet seen any reports of police running &#8220;sugar&#8221; raids in schools, but how soon before that happens? Once we win the war on drugs, all those SWAT units are going to need something to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3748889</link>
		<dc:creator>Other Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EH, you said: &quot;I’m pretty sure the primary dietary problem of the poor is that they’re poor.&quot;  Only someone who does not know many poor people could have written those words.  

When did it become fashionable to show concern for the lower classes by refusing to acknowledge who they really are?  How exactly does one advance social consciousness by obliterating the consciousness of what people in chronic poverty are really like?

BOB: Blacks and Hispanics consume drugs at a rate that is very slightly lower than that of whites, but they sell drugs at a massively disproportionate rate, utterly controlling the trade in every major American city.  

When did it become fashionable to fight the drug war by pretending it doesn&#039;t produce a black market disproportionately attractive to minorities? How exactly does one call attention to the horrors of a system that criminalizes the black and hispanic community if one cannot acknowledge that those communities really do produce far more than their share of criminals?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EH, you said: &#8220;I’m pretty sure the primary dietary problem of the poor is that they’re poor.&#8221;  Only someone who does not know many poor people could have written those words.  </p>
<p>When did it become fashionable to show concern for the lower classes by refusing to acknowledge who they really are?  How exactly does one advance social consciousness by obliterating the consciousness of what people in chronic poverty are really like?</p>
<p>BOB: Blacks and Hispanics consume drugs at a rate that is very slightly lower than that of whites, but they sell drugs at a massively disproportionate rate, utterly controlling the trade in every major American city.  </p>
<p>When did it become fashionable to fight the drug war by pretending it doesn&#8217;t produce a black market disproportionately attractive to minorities? How exactly does one call attention to the horrors of a system that criminalizes the black and hispanic community if one cannot acknowledge that those communities really do produce far more than their share of criminals?</p>
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		<title>By: KPRyan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3748229</link>
		<dc:creator>KPRyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cohen works for RAND.

Anyone not knowing the genesis of that outfit needs to do their homework.  Then they&#039;ll understand how such garbage as Cohen&#039;s idea sees the light of day in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cohen works for RAND.</p>
<p>Anyone not knowing the genesis of that outfit needs to do their homework.  Then they&#8217;ll understand how such garbage as Cohen&#8217;s idea sees the light of day in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: LBrothers</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747695</link>
		<dc:creator>LBrothers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about letting your children bike or walk to school once in a while, instead of ferrying them everywhere. Get them out of the house, encourage them to play, quit worrying so much about whether they&#039;ll get abducted or trip in the woods and get a bruise. Give them some goddamn room.

And the same goes for their fat parents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about letting your children bike or walk to school once in a while, instead of ferrying them everywhere. Get them out of the house, encourage them to play, quit worrying so much about whether they&#8217;ll get abducted or trip in the woods and get a bruise. Give them some goddamn room.</p>
<p>And the same goes for their fat parents.</p>
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		<title>By: The Poor</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747688</link>
		<dc:creator>The Poor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fuck off and quit doing things for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck off and quit doing things for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need taxes and regulation on food to prevent people from getting fat.

Some years go by. People are still fat.

See? This just shows we need MORE taxes and MORE regulation. The absolute and complete failure of the policy is proof that it will work, must work, if only we do it more!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need taxes and regulation on food to prevent people from getting fat.</p>
<p>Some years go by. People are still fat.</p>
<p>See? This just shows we need MORE taxes and MORE regulation. The absolute and complete failure of the policy is proof that it will work, must work, if only we do it more!</p>
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		<title>By: Onlooker</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747627</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, these pious busybodies are indeed maddening beyond belief.  And yes, they are real, and a real danger to liberty.  The road to hell...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, these pious busybodies are indeed maddening beyond belief.  And yes, they are real, and a real danger to liberty.  The road to hell&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747568</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Try number 3.)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billstclair.com/DoingFreedom/000623/df.0600.fa.lipidleggin.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lipidleggin&#039;&lt;/a&gt;, F. Paul Wilson, 1978.  I want that guy&#039;s crystal ball. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Try number 3.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.billstclair.com/DoingFreedom/000623/df.0600.fa.lipidleggin.html" rel="nofollow">Lipidleggin&#8217;</a>, F. Paul Wilson, 1978.  I want that guy&#8217;s crystal ball. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dempsey</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747566</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screw all that noise!  Oh wait, I guess I need a nanny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw all that noise!  Oh wait, I guess I need a nanny.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747558</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why all this preoccupation with &quot;The Poor&quot;? Has it actually been shown that &quot;The Poor&quot; are indeed much fatter than the other groups? It&#039;s like focusing on blacks and Hispanics for &quot;Drug Intervention&quot; under the misguided notion that they do more drugs. (Hint: They don&#039;t.)

Wait. I know why. It&#039;s because &quot;The Poor&quot; are &quot;Those other people&quot; that need to be controlled. Obviously, enlightened people won&#039;t be effected by absurd, draconian regulations that won&#039;t work, right? Only &quot;The Poor&quot; will be affected, and they will naturally respond by shaping up and flying right, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why all this preoccupation with &#8220;The Poor&#8221;? Has it actually been shown that &#8220;The Poor&#8221; are indeed much fatter than the other groups? It&#8217;s like focusing on blacks and Hispanics for &#8220;Drug Intervention&#8221; under the misguided notion that they do more drugs. (Hint: They don&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>Wait. I know why. It&#8217;s because &#8220;The Poor&#8221; are &#8220;Those other people&#8221; that need to be controlled. Obviously, enlightened people won&#8217;t be effected by absurd, draconian regulations that won&#8217;t work, right? Only &#8220;The Poor&#8221; will be affected, and they will naturally respond by shaping up and flying right, right?</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747535</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CSP: i&#039;m not sure what point you were attempting, but i&#039;m pretty sure the primary dietary problem of the poor is that they&#039;re poor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSP: i&#8217;m not sure what point you were attempting, but i&#8217;m pretty sure the primary dietary problem of the poor is that they&#8217;re poor.</p>
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		<title>By: EH</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747527</link>
		<dc:creator>EH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They hate us for our freedoms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They hate us for our freedoms.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747437</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obesity in the poor is partly a result of subsidies to less healthy food, overwhelming regulation that favors less healthy food, a medical system that treats diseases rather than preventing them.  The poor won&#039;t get healthy overnight, but removing the current stupid subsidies would be a good start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obesity in the poor is partly a result of subsidies to less healthy food, overwhelming regulation that favors less healthy food, a medical system that treats diseases rather than preventing them.  The poor won&#8217;t get healthy overnight, but removing the current stupid subsidies would be a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747394</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;When asked the effectiveness of the control policies to fight obesity, Cohen said, “We have to start trying them and see if they work or not.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hey, go for it!

Then I&#039;ll drive around town in a nondescript van selling french fries at a buck a fry out of the back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When asked the effectiveness of the control policies to fight obesity, Cohen said, “We have to start trying them and see if they work or not.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, go for it!</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ll drive around town in a nondescript van selling french fries at a buck a fry out of the back.</p>
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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747384</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused. So does this bode well for the burgeoning End the Stupid War on Drugs movement, or not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused. So does this bode well for the burgeoning End the Stupid War on Drugs movement, or not?</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/27/bollocks-to-the-prohibitionists/comment-page-1/#comment-3747338</link>
		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@#9 -- &quot;Times are changing, now the poor get fat....&quot; -- Elton John &amp; Bernie Taupin, &quot;The Bitch is Back,&quot; 1975.

So it has been noted for at least 37 years.  37 years, goddamn I&#039;m getting old.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#9 &#8212; &#8220;Times are changing, now the poor get fat&#8230;.&#8221; &#8212; Elton John &amp; Bernie Taupin, &#8220;The Bitch is Back,&#8221; 1975.</p>
<p>So it has been noted for at least 37 years.  37 years, goddamn I&#8217;m getting old.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We really need Prohibition on these stupid laws and the politicians/dealers.  Of course, I thought that the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment already did that, but apparently the politicians havent read them.

A lot of the obesity problem is, in fact, a PRODUCT of the same stupid laws.  A few:
1.  Agricultural subsidies that raise the relative cost of fresh fruit and veg
2.  FDA rules against various raw, fermented and other foods.
3.  Subsidies for sprawl and car use
4.  Taxes and subsidies that drive medical care to treat people after they get to 400lbs and not before
5.  The distorted role of sport in the educational system, which makes sport something done for glory at school, or profit thereafter,  and not for fun.  I don&#039;t see many dads getting together for evening baseball or football unless their kids are involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really need Prohibition on these stupid laws and the politicians/dealers.  Of course, I thought that the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment already did that, but apparently the politicians havent read them.</p>
<p>A lot of the obesity problem is, in fact, a PRODUCT of the same stupid laws.  A few:<br />
1.  Agricultural subsidies that raise the relative cost of fresh fruit and veg<br />
2.  FDA rules against various raw, fermented and other foods.<br />
3.  Subsidies for sprawl and car use<br />
4.  Taxes and subsidies that drive medical care to treat people after they get to 400lbs and not before<br />
5.  The distorted role of sport in the educational system, which makes sport something done for glory at school, or profit thereafter,  and not for fun.  I don&#8217;t see many dads getting together for evening baseball or football unless their kids are involved.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize that I am a lone voice howling in the wilderness here, but could we at least do SIOME celebrating connected to the apparent fact that the primary dietary problem of our poor is that they are too fat?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that I am a lone voice howling in the wilderness here, but could we at least do SIOME celebrating connected to the apparent fact that the primary dietary problem of our poor is that they are too fat?</p>
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