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	<title>Comments on: John &#8220;Pepper Spray&#8221; Pike</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3763174</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 04:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(late to the comment section, I know, but I&#039;ve been falling behind on my reader due to life.) turns out the guy was a member of may chapter of my fraternity back in the undergrad days (could probably figure out who I am based on that thought the miracle of modern googling). He stopped by one day as an alumnus while I was there and everyone thought he seemed like a cool enough guy, if not packing on the pounds at the time(this was a solid 11 years. Effort the incident pictured). But it&#039;s haunted me since that this is the behavior of essentially normal people when you put them in these positions with these policies long enough. When a tendency to want to be superior to those around you is augmented by a rule book that tells you that you are. When you answer calls to people at their worst day, seeing yourself as better because you may not happen to be feeling just as bad as they do at the time. Living life viewing things as us vs them, when them is the human race... It haunts me to think, as an agitator tot, that there, but for the grace of God, go I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(late to the comment section, I know, but I&#8217;ve been falling behind on my reader due to life.) turns out the guy was a member of may chapter of my fraternity back in the undergrad days (could probably figure out who I am based on that thought the miracle of modern googling). He stopped by one day as an alumnus while I was there and everyone thought he seemed like a cool enough guy, if not packing on the pounds at the time(this was a solid 11 years. Effort the incident pictured). But it&#8217;s haunted me since that this is the behavior of essentially normal people when you put them in these positions with these policies long enough. When a tendency to want to be superior to those around you is augmented by a rule book that tells you that you are. When you answer calls to people at their worst day, seeing yourself as better because you may not happen to be feeling just as bad as they do at the time. Living life viewing things as us vs them, when them is the human race&#8230; It haunts me to think, as an agitator tot, that there, but for the grace of God, go I.</p>
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		<title>By: William Berry</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3747506</link>
		<dc:creator>William Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@EapenThampy: I&#039;m hoping that was meant to be ironic. If not, WTBFH?

@belleWaring: Belle, you are awesome, as always. (Just a shoutout from a hardcore USW liber[al]tarian supporter of the right of contract, and the right to choose third party representation in negotiating same.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@EapenThampy: I&#8217;m hoping that was meant to be ironic. If not, WTBFH?</p>
<p>@belleWaring: Belle, you are awesome, as always. (Just a shoutout from a hardcore USW liber[al]tarian supporter of the right of contract, and the right to choose third party representation in negotiating same.)</p>
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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3747392</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;May John Pike live forever&quot; suffering from both cluster headaches and trigeminal neuralgia. Fixed it for ya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;May John Pike live forever&#8221; suffering from both cluster headaches and trigeminal neuralgia. Fixed it for ya.</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3746370</link>
		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I object to the aspect ratio of the photo.  Was the editor trying to make Pike look taller and skinnier than the fat-ass he is IRL?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I object to the aspect ratio of the photo.  Was the editor trying to make Pike look taller and skinnier than the fat-ass he is IRL?</p>
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		<title>By: derfel cadarn</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3745780</link>
		<dc:creator>derfel cadarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This shows what &quot;real&quot; men we have as public servants. He should be stripped naked positioned so that the same pepper spray can be liberally applied to his naughty bits and nether regions repeatedly over several days .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows what &#8220;real&#8221; men we have as public servants. He should be stripped naked positioned so that the same pepper spray can be liberally applied to his naughty bits and nether regions repeatedly over several days .</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Depsey</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3745756</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Depsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He probably got a new job down the road at San Francisco State University.  If NYC stop-n-frisk is on the way to the west coast, at least we know he&#039;s properly trained to brutalize people so I&#039;m sure there are police departments all over California courting him for his services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably got a new job down the road at San Francisco State University.  If NYC stop-n-frisk is on the way to the west coast, at least we know he&#8217;s properly trained to brutalize people so I&#8217;m sure there are police departments all over California courting him for his services.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle Waring</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3745115</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle Waring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 06:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aw, yeah; support of my thesis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, yeah; support of my thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle Waring</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3745110</link>
		<dc:creator>Belle Waring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 06:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re comment #3: Every political system fucks up sometimes. I&#039;m sure with some digging I could bring to your attention some systematic pattern of lawbreaking by an American corporation that simultaneously defrauded its shareholders and conducted medical research on the blood and tissues of people who had not given permission for their flesh to be tested. Then I could say &quot;ha ha, you support individual corporations competing for money in a free (for some value of free, where the government already pays out more per capita than the governments of most single-payer countries, but we&#039;ll let that slide) market! Isn&#039;t that ironic! It&#039;s like a billion spoons and all you wanted was a smaller, less intrusive state!&quot; But that would be a bad argument. 

You may object that you are an anarchist, and then I can say, &quot;Lendu militias in eastern Congo just killed a bunch of innocent people last weekend, and raped many women to death. The private rights enforcing groups the various villages muster up keep rapaciously turning on their neighbors till the country is burned black to the bone. How&#039;s that actually existing anarchy working out for you? You are refuted by irony, qua Alanis Morissette!&quot; This, frankly, has some merit, but it is still below the belt. 

I support strong unions despite being a libertarian in many ways because I think it is the only way that labor can be a counterweight to capital, to conduct free negotiations with it. Nothing could be less fair or free than to deny men and women the right to form a common association to negotiate on all their behalves, since each alone has no power. Unions ended child labor, gave us the weekend, the concept of reasonable work hours and overtime, safety regulations, and many more things. Libertarians are always in favor of these after they pass but regard them as a shocking infringement of freedom beforehand. One rarely sees people advocating a return to allowing child labor in factories (I don&#039;t think Newt Gingrich counts); to allowing locking workers into workshops with no fire escapes. Sure, unions featherbed, they let assholes go on working, they do dumbass things. The often abet police abuses and they should get smacked down for that. Excesses should be curbed by lawmakers, but the principle is sound as ever. &quot;Right to work&quot; was always popular in the Southern states most dominated by white suprematist groups and most fearful of race riots (which they thought agitation for labor rights would allow.) This remains true till now. South Carolina could use some damn unions, trust me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re comment #3: Every political system fucks up sometimes. I&#8217;m sure with some digging I could bring to your attention some systematic pattern of lawbreaking by an American corporation that simultaneously defrauded its shareholders and conducted medical research on the blood and tissues of people who had not given permission for their flesh to be tested. Then I could say &#8220;ha ha, you support individual corporations competing for money in a free (for some value of free, where the government already pays out more per capita than the governments of most single-payer countries, but we&#8217;ll let that slide) market! Isn&#8217;t that ironic! It&#8217;s like a billion spoons and all you wanted was a smaller, less intrusive state!&#8221; But that would be a bad argument. </p>
<p>You may object that you are an anarchist, and then I can say, &#8220;Lendu militias in eastern Congo just killed a bunch of innocent people last weekend, and raped many women to death. The private rights enforcing groups the various villages muster up keep rapaciously turning on their neighbors till the country is burned black to the bone. How&#8217;s that actually existing anarchy working out for you? You are refuted by irony, qua Alanis Morissette!&#8221; This, frankly, has some merit, but it is still below the belt. </p>
<p>I support strong unions despite being a libertarian in many ways because I think it is the only way that labor can be a counterweight to capital, to conduct free negotiations with it. Nothing could be less fair or free than to deny men and women the right to form a common association to negotiate on all their behalves, since each alone has no power. Unions ended child labor, gave us the weekend, the concept of reasonable work hours and overtime, safety regulations, and many more things. Libertarians are always in favor of these after they pass but regard them as a shocking infringement of freedom beforehand. One rarely sees people advocating a return to allowing child labor in factories (I don&#8217;t think Newt Gingrich counts); to allowing locking workers into workshops with no fire escapes. Sure, unions featherbed, they let assholes go on working, they do dumbass things. The often abet police abuses and they should get smacked down for that. Excesses should be curbed by lawmakers, but the principle is sound as ever. &#8220;Right to work&#8221; was always popular in the Southern states most dominated by white suprematist groups and most fearful of race riots (which they thought agitation for labor rights would allow.) This remains true till now. South Carolina could use some damn unions, trust me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Z.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744913</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#2: He&#039;s been fired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2: He&#8217;s been fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah Falcon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744865</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonah Falcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 05:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oi, my eyes!!!!&quot;

The only thing that could&#039;ve made that day worst for him was if he had to fly Delta afterward: http://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2012/08/24/delta-airlines-tsa-tolerance-policy-joke-t-shirts/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oi, my eyes!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>The only thing that could&#8217;ve made that day worst for him was if he had to fly Delta afterward: <a href="http://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2012/08/24/delta-airlines-tsa-tolerance-policy-joke-t-shirts/" rel="nofollow">http://lawblog.legalmatch.com/2012/08/24/delta-airlines-tsa-tolerance-policy-joke-t-shirts/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eapen Thampy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744735</link>
		<dc:creator>Eapen Thampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 04:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May John Pike live forever]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May John Pike live forever</p>
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		<title>By: KPRyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>KPRyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cameras?  Like the State&#039;s provocateur gave a damn...

Now were he to pull out his sidearm and start firing away, he might first shoo the cameras out of view.   


Maybe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameras?  Like the State&#8217;s provocateur gave a damn&#8230;</p>
<p>Now were he to pull out his sidearm and start firing away, he might first shoo the cameras out of view.   </p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744587</link>
		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 03:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeez, how was  he supposed to know it was  going to
be photographed. There were only about 120 cameras
pointed at him...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, how was  he supposed to know it was  going to<br />
be photographed. There were only about 120 cameras<br />
pointed at him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: badgeabuse</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744572</link>
		<dc:creator>badgeabuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was FIRED for his deed. Police should learn everyone have a camera/phone these days]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was FIRED for his deed. Police should learn everyone have a camera/phone these days</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleU</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744390</link>
		<dc:creator>DoubleU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Occupy&quot; supporting unions which make sure this guy keeps his job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Occupy&#8221; supporting unions which make sure this guy keeps his job.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/26/john-pepper-spray-pike/comment-page-1/#comment-3744111</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty cool page.

A bit OT but whatever happened with Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman? I saw that he was charged with 2nd degree murder and was fired. A judge dismissed the lawsuit against the city. That&#039;s all I can find.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool page.</p>
<p>A bit OT but whatever happened with Phoenix Police Officer Richard Chrisman? I saw that he was charged with 2nd degree murder and was fired. A judge dismissed the lawsuit against the city. That&#8217;s all I can find.</p>
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