“Come Off It, Folks — How Many Paedophiles Can There Be?”

Wednesday, August 15th, 2012

Hi Folks! Lenore here from Free-Range Kids and yes, that headline is the REAL TITLE of a column by some hack in The Telegraph who was sick of the “no males allowed to sit next to unaccompanied minors” deal, back in 2006, on British Airways.

Oh wait a sec — that hack is Boris Johnson, NOW THE MAYOR OF LONDON!

He was asked to move his seat because he was next to two kids — his own! Once the stewardess realized her error,  he was allowed to stay. But the feeling of being presumed a perv occasioned this column.

Can you imagine someone getting elected HERE who dared to say enough with this overblown  fear for our kids? Can you imagine your OWN mayor writing:

To all those who worry about the paedophile plague, I would say that they not only have a very imperfect understanding of probability; but also that they fail to understand the terrible damage that is done by this system of presuming guilt in the entire male population just because of the tendencies of a tiny minority.

There are all sorts of reasons why the numbers of male school teachers are down 50 per cent in the period 1981 to 2001, and why the ratio of female to male teachers in primary schools is now seven to one. There are problems of pay, and the catastrophic failure of the state to ensure that they are treated as figures of authority and respect; and what with ‘elf ‘n’ safety and human rights it is very hard to enforce discipline.

But it is also, surely, a huge deterrent to any public-spirited man contemplating a career in education that society apparently regards all adult male contact with young people as being potentially a bit dodgy, a bit rum, a bit you know…

It is a total disaster.

Wow! Boris! And the Olympics, too. You rock! – Lenore (from Free-Range Kids)

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35 Responses to ““Come Off It, Folks — How Many Paedophiles Can There Be?””

  1. #1 |  par4 | 

    I stand by my previous comment that this policy should be followed for priests and politicians. After further contemplation I’d add that politicians should also be kept away from pets and barn yard animals.

  2. #2 |  DoubleU | 

    I think politicians should be kept away from citizens and anything that affects citizens.

  3. #3 |  PeeDub | 

    Boris is awesome. My favorite mayor ever over McCheese and Quimby.

  4. #4 |  William Anderson | 

    In the USA, Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand, the law permits a simple accusation to be all the “proof” that is needed that a “sex crime” occurred. Nothing else is needed, which is guarantees that innocent people will be convicted of crimes and sentenced to long years in prison.

    The situation is intolerable and I see no improvement. Forget the mainstream news media being helpful; they ALWAYS join in the crusade. For all of the “we have learned something since McMartin” claims, in truth, nothing has been “learned.” Nothing.

  5. #5 |  En Passant | 

    I think that the “no males allowed to sit next to unaccompanied minors” policy of British airlines is a manifestation of a world wide plague which originated in the good old USA in the late 1970s and 1980s. But it wasn’t a plague of increased child molestation. It was a plague of crazy accusers, ably organized by power hungry prosecutors and a contingent of self-proclaimed “radical feminists” in a political alliance of convenience with religious fundamentalists, ably assisted by clueless twits in media looking for a good headline.

    The first plague quickly became known as Satanic Ritual Abuse. One candidate for the plague’s “ground zero” is the McMartin Preschool prosecution in 1983. There was a wave of such prosecutions at the time, all over the USA.

    Neither the prosecutors and police who targeted innocents, nor the lying accusers ever saw an iota of legal consequence for their crimes. They never really stopped because they didn’t need too. They just moved on to more fertile ground.

    These days they are trying to accomplish what they could not accomplish with “satanic ritual abuse”. Their new crusades are “human trafficking” (they claim all prostitutes are either trafficked slaves, or traffickers), and “male predators” (they claim all males are sexual predators who prey on women and mostly children).

    Their goal is the criminalization of all sexual activity, except for certain politically correct lesbian activity; and the criminalization of all men.

    Their recent crusades center around “human trafficking” and “male predators”. Their talking points in a nutshell are “all prostitutes are either trafficked or traffickers” and “all men are sexual predators”. They have found fertile political ground for those crusades lately.

  6. #6 |  Jake | 

    Thanks for keeping on this issue, Lenore.

  7. #7 |  Leon Wolfeson | 

    @5 – Moral panics.

    We couldn’t play Dungeons and Dragons or have a roleplaying society at school for some years. (We played Starwars and a bunch of other roleplaying systems, as part of the “wargames” society)

    They find fertile ground because they’re genuinely popular…understanding WHY they happen is key to stopping them in future.

  8. #8 |  Adrian Ratnapala | 

    Damn those human rights! And the Elf safety too!

  9. #9 |  croaker | 

    About the only good thing Shaira Law would accomplish is forcing the “male predator” radical lesbians into burkas and ball gags.

    I often wonder if that’s not too high a price to pay.

  10. #10 |  Matthew F | 

    Now imagine the effect on blacks, who experience this continuously throughout their whole lives in nearly every setting.

  11. #11 |  Kazzy | 

    “About the only good thing Shaira Law would accomplish is forcing the “male predator” radical lesbians into burkas and ball gags.”

    Seriously? You’re worse than any proponent of Sharia Law.

  12. #12 |  Brandon | 

    #5, #9, Jesus Christ. Stop with this shit. You idiots are just validating the crap that Johnson was writing about. The people who push these idiotic panics are not evil man-hating supervillains, they are just stupid. They are honestly afraid. Note that I did not say legitimately afraid, because what they panic over is akin to someone refusing to leave his house for fear of a meteorite landing on him. But they are not evil.

  13. #13 |  Warren | 

    Lenore,
    Great work, thanks for the time and effort.
    I wonder how these airlines would feel if all Dad’s started to boycott them?
    LOL, I am pretty sure I would have been getting some sort of apology and refund, had I been asked to sit away from my girls.
    I am sure he received an apology, but for what? Making a mistake about who the children were with, or for assuming he was a pervert?

  14. #14 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Boris must hate children and doesn’t want them to be safe. With that attitude, it’s only a matter of time before there are no children left. He probably thinks that abortion should be legal until the child is 18 so it can be used as for disciplinary leverage during rough patches in his upbringing.

    Personally, I think this could all be solved with a simple flag on your universal RFID that clears you of being a pedophile (assuming you pass a state-certified psychological screening). It could be handled by the same agency streamlines your security processing at the airport by certifying that you are not a terrorist or someone who photographs cops.

  15. #15 |  Douglas | 

    “I stand by my previous comment that this policy should be followed for priests and politicians.” par4

    I suppose we should outlaw remarriage and hanging out with cousins, too, since there are 100 times as many rapes by stepfathers and cousins as by priests or politicians. Maybe we should just keep kids away from school too, since over 7% of all girls are sexually abused in a way that involves physical contact. Better, yet, just keep the girls at home and away from school altogether so they can be truly safe in the kitchen.

    http://www.hofstra.edu/pdf/about/administration/provost/hofhrz/hofhrz_s03_shakeshaft.pdf
    http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

    This world can be a pretty crappy place sometimes, but withdrawing from society or demonizing all males/priests/teachers as more evil than the rest of society is ignorant and dangerous in its own right.

  16. #16 |  En Passant | 

    #12 | Brandon wrote August 15th, 2012 at 1:07 pm:

    #5, #9, Jesus Christ. Stop with this shit. You idiots are just validating the crap that Johnson was writing about. The people who push these idiotic panics are not evil man-hating supervillains, they are just stupid. They are honestly afraid. Note that I did not say legitimately afraid, because what they panic over is akin to someone refusing to leave his house for fear of a meteorite landing on him. But they are not evil.

    I must respectfully disagree.

    The mother who made the initial complaint in the McMartin case may have merely been “honestly afraid”. She was, after all, schizophrenic and sufficiently alcoholic to eventually die of complications.

    But the officials, from prosecutors down to the investigators, were demonstrably evil. Their methods have been analyzed at great length and thoroughly exposed and debunked as not even remotely resembling honest and objective investigation. Their motives were various, but self-promotion and political and professional ambition were among them.

    One of the original prosecutors, who left the case when he saw how it was being handled, exposed some of their unlawful conduct. Prosecutorial misconduct that eventually came to light included withholding exculpatory evidence and using perjured testimony at trial.

    Even some in the press had less than honorable motives for sensationalist coverage promoting panic and endorsing the prosecution. The LA Times editor in charge of that paper’s dishonest coverage of the case became engaged to the prosecutor.

    All that behavior, I submit, was evil. It was not the result of stupidity or “honest fear”.

  17. #17 |  BamBam | 

    @15 for the win. People dismissing others for being stupid, time and time again, as if the perpetrators of the evil acts cannot see how their behavior is vile and evil, but the rest of us can, gives a pass to the evildoers.

    Wake up. There are a lot of very evil people everywhere. Smite the evil.

  18. #18 |  Steve Verdon | 

    The Brits seem to have a very over blown sense of fear for pedophiles. I watch several British TV shows and inevitably the issue of pedophiles comes up.

  19. #19 |  Rich Wilson | 

    I’m not sure if profiling men as predators is evil in the intentional sense, but I do think burkas and ball gags are. At least, unless one is fully consenting in the bondage.

  20. #20 |  Bill Wells | 

    #12:

    I must disagree. A person who has baseless fears, who refuses to look at the facts that would prove those fears baseless, and who uses those baseless fears to justify wrongdoing, is evil.

  21. #21 |  Mark F. | 

    The airline got suspicious when Boris said “Joey, do you like gladiator movies?” JUST KIDDING!

  22. #22 |  missjanenc | 

    #14 Dave Krueger, please, please, PLEASE tell us you were being sarcastic.

  23. #23 |  alldayeveryday | 

    “Can you imagine your OWN mayor writing”

    maybe if he wrote it with motorcycles, glocks and monster trucks

  24. #24 |  Inkberrow | 

    An unavoidable concomitant of libertarianism is libertinism, so it’s unsurprising that Balko, Johnson, and like-minded commenters cannot see the forest for the trees here. For better or worse—and I think there are good arguments both ways—overbroad protective policies like this one are in response to the ever-expanding realm of sexual liberation and sexual autonomy in popular culture, which means that more and more adult men will be open to action on the other side of the teetering consent line, and more and more “children” demanding to show that they can handle there own, um, affairs. The driving issue is less pedophilia than so-called pederasty.

  25. #25 |  Warren | 

    @24
    WOW!!!!!
    So the only reasoning for less pedophilia is because we are redefining the definitions?
    You also imply that children are looking to handle their own “affairs”.
    I usually try to be nice, but you are one sick puppy.
    As a father of a 22 yr old daughter, a 13 yr old daughter and a 13 yr old son, stay the hell away from all of them.

  26. #26 |  Inkberrow | 

    Warren—

    I’m not advocating for that position in any way, shape, or form. I’m suggesting that such a state of, er, affairs is the inevitable logical extension of liberal–and to a lesser extent–libertarian social philosophy.

  27. #27 |  En Passant | 

    I agree with Warren that Inkberrow makes an empirically incorrect presumption.

    Libertinism exists in most any social order, relatively independent of government’s invasive authority. But as government’s authoritarian reach increases, the libertinism tends to crop up among the least privileged socioeconomic populations because government’s resources to police larger populations are limited; and among the most privileged socioeconomic populations, because they are the government.

  28. #28 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #22 missjanenc

    #14 Dave Krueger, please, please, PLEASE tell us you were being sarcastic.

    Yes. :-)

  29. #29 |  johnl | 

    Inkbrew is right. The LA County DA’s attempt to railroad innocent people and the fawning coverage in the LAT was the fault of libertarians and their outsized influence.

  30. #30 |  Inkberrow | 

    En Passant—

    Freedom, period, versus freedom-ism? Regardless, true pedophiles are self-contained, unchanging, and sui generis; the rest, a morass of overlapping, evolving and devolving categories.

    JohnL—

    Ironically enough, it’s the rejuvenated puritanical protection and idealizing of children from the progressive side of the aisle this time that’s responsible for the current safe haven for false-faced child sex crime accusers. This runs side by side with, and on occasion smack into, the prevailing “if it feels good, you get to do it” pop-culture libertinist’s ethic I alluded to above.

    For child molestation cases in the bad old days, unless there was a confession or the perp caught in flagrante, cases were not pursued, either deemed “family” matters, or rationalized as unproveable without corroboration of the child. Today the pendulum’s swung too far in the other direction, partly with good intentions, whereby what the kid says is operative gold upon arrival unless and until there’s affirmative refutation.

  31. #31 |  En Passant | 

    #30 | Inkberrow wrote August 15th, 2012 at 8:24 pm:

    En Passant—

    Freedom, period, versus freedom-ism? Regardless, true pedophiles are self-contained, unchanging, and sui generis; the rest, a morass of overlapping, evolving and devolving categories.

    I have no idea what you are asking here. But maybe that’s just me. Maybe you didn’t understand what I wrote either.

  32. #32 |  DavidBrennan | 

    At #1:

    Yeah, you’ve dutifully spewed out your mainstream media-fed, “Priests = pedophiles!” time and time and time and time again (never noting the irony that you’re doing this at a website famed for debunking mainstream media presumptions of guilt).

    We get it. Accusations = Guilt, mainstream media = honest, priests = molestors, etc., etc., etc.

    I respectfully request that any future hate-filled posts about priests and Catholics from that user be ignored by all.

  33. #33 |  Inkberrow | 

    En Passant—

    You were speaking more of liberty than libertinism, as I see it anyway. Freedom versus a so-called abuse of freedom.

    Pedophiles are a discrete orientation. My “the rest” refers to all thev other types and labels which tend to (erroneously) get lumped in with pedophilia, both in description and in chances for rehabilitation.

  34. #34 |  Charles E. Higgins Sr. | 

    I am sick to death of every child molester being called a pedophile. The word pedophile refers to a state of mind where the person thinks of having sex with a child for a period of six months or more. Many a child molester never considered doing it until they did it. So they do not meet the definition.

    I was an incestuous father and my child was young when it started but I have been fully evaluated and am not a pedophile. Had I been declared one the state I was in would have been right to civilly commit me as a sexually violent predator and they never even considered that because they know incest is caused by a dysfunctional family dynamic.

  35. #35 |  Warren | 

    Chuck,
    As a father of two girls, 21 and 13 it is my humble opinion that you Sir should have been commited as a sexually violent predator. Just because you didnt leave your house to prey on children doesn’t change a thing.

    Actually it makes it worse. Your child is supposed to trust and love you, and you betrayed both.

    With all due respect, if you ever see me walking towards you, I advice you to cross to the other side.

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