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	<title>Comments on: What &#8220;Absolute Immunity&#8221; Actually Means</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3692824</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe Swatting does have its place....just saying....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Swatting does have its place&#8230;.just saying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3671620</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@6 and @12 .. you all made my day, I haven&#039;t heard Jim Bell&#039;s named used much by anybody outside JYA in awhile.  BTW he&#039;s out now though haven&#039;t heard anything about or from him via the usually channels.

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&amp;needingMoreList=false&amp;FirstName=james&amp;Middle=dalton&amp;LastName=bell&amp;Race=U&amp;Sex=U&amp;Age&amp;x=77&amp;y=28Bell&#039;s

PS: Sorry for the O/T post but they brought back nice memories :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@6 and @12 .. you all made my day, I haven&#8217;t heard Jim Bell&#8217;s named used much by anybody outside JYA in awhile.  BTW he&#8217;s out now though haven&#8217;t heard anything about or from him via the usually channels.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&#038;needingMoreList=false&#038;FirstName=james&#038;Middle=dalton&#038;LastName=bell&#038;Race=U&#038;Sex=U&#038;Age&#038;x=77&#038;y=28Bell&#039;s" rel="nofollow">http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&#038;needingMoreList=false&#038;FirstName=james&#038;Middle=dalton&#038;LastName=bell&#038;Race=U&#038;Sex=U&#038;Age&#038;x=77&#038;y=28Bell&#039;s</a></p>
<p>PS: Sorry for the O/T post but they brought back nice memories :)</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3671303</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@18 - Of course, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re quite willing to make sure to ensure state powers grows at an unprecedented rate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18 &#8211; Of course, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re quite willing to make sure to ensure state powers grows at an unprecedented rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Militant Libertarian &#187; What “Absolute Immunity” Actually Means</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3671273</link>
		<dc:creator>Militant Libertarian &#187; What “Absolute Immunity” Actually Means</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bergman</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3670505</link>
		<dc:creator>Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When legitimate justice becomes impossible, vigilante justice becomes inevitable.
 
Well, legitimate justice against a corrupt prosecutor is impossible right now.
 
I expect to begin hearing about prosecutors being assassinated any day now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When legitimate justice becomes impossible, vigilante justice becomes inevitable.</p>
<p>Well, legitimate justice against a corrupt prosecutor is impossible right now.</p>
<p>I expect to begin hearing about prosecutors being assassinated any day now.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3669597</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@12 - No...a lot of them become company CEO&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12 &#8211; No&#8230;a lot of them become company CEO&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3668000</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#15 Jack Dempsey:

Yeah, you never know the way things are going.  But if you stick to public sidewalks for pickets and you avoid anything that sounds like a threat in your speech and/or correspondences then they would really have to get creative in court.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15 Jack Dempsey:</p>
<p>Yeah, you never know the way things are going.  But if you stick to public sidewalks for pickets and you avoid anything that sounds like a threat in your speech and/or correspondences then they would really have to get creative in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dempsey</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3667653</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 02:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #11

I don&#039;t disagree with what you say, but how long will it be before these completely legal actions are labeled as acts of domestic terrorism?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #11</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with what you say, but how long will it be before these completely legal actions are labeled as acts of domestic terrorism?</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3667042</link>
		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[StrangeOne, that&#039;s about the most cogent explanation for the lack of resistance to government in America that I&#039;ve read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StrangeOne, that&#8217;s about the most cogent explanation for the lack of resistance to government in America that I&#8217;ve read.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3666169</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lawyers investigate lawyers just about as effectively as cops investigate cops.

You have the Blue Wall of Silence, and then you have the Pinstripe Wall of Silence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawyers investigate lawyers just about as effectively as cops investigate cops.</p>
<p>You have the Blue Wall of Silence, and then you have the Pinstripe Wall of Silence.</p>
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		<title>By: StrangeOne</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3666061</link>
		<dc:creator>StrangeOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CynicCal,

I think, paradoxically, the reason we don&#039;t see more Jim Bell type solutions is the same reasons the injustices are perpetuated in the first place. People believe the government works. They believe the justice system actually peruses justice and that any vigilante action would be punished severely. The first belief isn&#039;t true just by any means, but its a pleasant fiction people maintain. The second one is untrue mostly because the police really aren&#039;t that good at catching dedicated criminals, especially the ones that have little problem firing on cops.

The problem is that most of the people out there are decent. They&#039;re not all good, or kind, or caring, but they&#039;re decent enough to where they wouldn&#039;t kill somebody. Even when their lives are threatened by government force few every consider challenging their attacker directly. The cops beat them, the prosecutors and judges lie to them, and they spend decades in prison because they played by rigged rules. But even after all that they mostly just want to be left alone. The thought of actively resisting the government actors that wronged them is beyond consideration. The morality of everyday people is the means by which they are oppressed. 

It&#039;s a terrible Catch-22; no matter how terrible your government is only the worst kind of people are actually willing to do something about it. There just aren&#039;t enough sociopaths out there willing to kill on principle alone. The few that exist seem more drawn to work &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt; the government rather than &lt;i&gt;resist&lt;/i&gt; it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CynicCal,</p>
<p>I think, paradoxically, the reason we don&#8217;t see more Jim Bell type solutions is the same reasons the injustices are perpetuated in the first place. People believe the government works. They believe the justice system actually peruses justice and that any vigilante action would be punished severely. The first belief isn&#8217;t true just by any means, but its a pleasant fiction people maintain. The second one is untrue mostly because the police really aren&#8217;t that good at catching dedicated criminals, especially the ones that have little problem firing on cops.</p>
<p>The problem is that most of the people out there are decent. They&#8217;re not all good, or kind, or caring, but they&#8217;re decent enough to where they wouldn&#8217;t kill somebody. Even when their lives are threatened by government force few every consider challenging their attacker directly. The cops beat them, the prosecutors and judges lie to them, and they spend decades in prison because they played by rigged rules. But even after all that they mostly just want to be left alone. The thought of actively resisting the government actors that wronged them is beyond consideration. The morality of everyday people is the means by which they are oppressed. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a terrible Catch-22; no matter how terrible your government is only the worst kind of people are actually willing to do something about it. There just aren&#8217;t enough sociopaths out there willing to kill on principle alone. The few that exist seem more drawn to work <i>for</i> the government rather than <i>resist</i> it.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3665783</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Lawsuits are the only means of redress that can be initiated by private individuals that are not employed by the justice system, so by blocking this one avenue of justice the SCOTUS essentially has blocked justice itself.&quot;

They may be the only means of redress approved by lawyers and the justice system, but lawsuits are only one of many possible tactics.  Public shaming and even harassment of such officials is another possible tactic.  Blogs like The Agitator are a part of this.  More up close and personal tactics might include pickets of the officials workplace (the court house, the police department, the federal building, etc) or even their residence.  Let this person&#039;s co-workers, neighbors, friends and even their families know what they have done.  These tactics are completely legal and apparently need to be employed more often, since going through &quot;additional channels&quot; is not enough. Unless absolutely necessary, threats should be avoided, because then they will turn it all around on you.  

Direct action should become the tactic of choice if state and corporate entities continue to thumb their noses at &quot;the rabble.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lawsuits are the only means of redress that can be initiated by private individuals that are not employed by the justice system, so by blocking this one avenue of justice the SCOTUS essentially has blocked justice itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>They may be the only means of redress approved by lawyers and the justice system, but lawsuits are only one of many possible tactics.  Public shaming and even harassment of such officials is another possible tactic.  Blogs like The Agitator are a part of this.  More up close and personal tactics might include pickets of the officials workplace (the court house, the police department, the federal building, etc) or even their residence.  Let this person&#8217;s co-workers, neighbors, friends and even their families know what they have done.  These tactics are completely legal and apparently need to be employed more often, since going through &#8220;additional channels&#8221; is not enough. Unless absolutely necessary, threats should be avoided, because then they will turn it all around on you.  </p>
<p>Direct action should become the tactic of choice if state and corporate entities continue to thumb their noses at &#8220;the rabble.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3665762</link>
		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, Liberranter, it is simply mindboggling to contemplate that it doesn&#039;t already happen every day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Liberranter, it is simply mindboggling to contemplate that it doesn&#8217;t already happen every day.</p>
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		<title>By: liberranter</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3665619</link>
		<dc:creator>liberranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Lawsuits are the only means of redress that can be initiated by private individuals that are not employed by the justice system...&lt;/I&gt;

Actually, no, there are other means of redressing wrongs against the system.  They&#039;re very unpleasant to contemplate, but given that the system has run absolutely amok, these alternate means might soon become the norm for those who realize that they will get no justice whatsoever under prevailing conditions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Lawsuits are the only means of redress that can be initiated by private individuals that are not employed by the justice system&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Actually, no, there are other means of redressing wrongs against the system.  They&#8217;re very unpleasant to contemplate, but given that the system has run absolutely amok, these alternate means might soon become the norm for those who realize that they will get no justice whatsoever under prevailing conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: croaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>croaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@7 That&#039;s how one barrister ended up resiging and leaving the show on Law And Order UK. You would never see an equivalent episode on US television.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@7 That&#8217;s how one barrister ended up resiging and leaving the show on Law And Order UK. You would never see an equivalent episode on US television.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3665501</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@2 - Stop electing them, have professionals who have a code of conduct to follow. One which is enforced.

There&#039;s a reason you don&#039;t hear that much about prosecutorial misconduct in the UK compared to the US... (Indeed, it&#039;s a system which works a lot better than our police or judiciary)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2 &#8211; Stop electing them, have professionals who have a code of conduct to follow. One which is enforced.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason you don&#8217;t hear that much about prosecutorial misconduct in the UK compared to the US&#8230; (Indeed, it&#8217;s a system which works a lot better than our police or judiciary)</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3665296</link>
		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 15:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim Bell would know what to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Bell would know what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Deoxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deoxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Those who run the system understand perfectly that they are invulnerable, and people who are not held accountable for wrongdoing eventually will run off the rails.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The end result is vigilante justice against said people.  That&#039;s less bad than them just running rampant, but it does lasting structural damage to society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those who run the system understand perfectly that they are invulnerable, and people who are not held accountable for wrongdoing eventually will run off the rails.</p></blockquote>
<p>The end result is vigilante justice against said people.  That&#8217;s less bad than them just running rampant, but it does lasting structural damage to society.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/08/08/what-absolute-immunity-actually-means/comment-page-1/#comment-3665098</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Louisiana State Bar was similarly disinterested- and in fact openly hostile- when I pointed out that one of their members not only allowed a witness to commit perjury but when challenged on it, demanded that I agree to a statement from the witness that what she (the witness) said under oath, was true. That&#039;s all that needs to be said about attorney misconduct being &quot;punished by the system&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Louisiana State Bar was similarly disinterested- and in fact openly hostile- when I pointed out that one of their members not only allowed a witness to commit perjury but when challenged on it, demanded that I agree to a statement from the witness that what she (the witness) said under oath, was true. That&#8217;s all that needs to be said about attorney misconduct being &#8220;punished by the system&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Late Andy Rooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Late Andy Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 14:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for bringing this stuff to light; what distinguished the Nifong/Duke case from the others, other than all the publicity it got? It seemed a promising development to me, like it might set a good precedent (for once).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing this stuff to light; what distinguished the Nifong/Duke case from the others, other than all the publicity it got? It seemed a promising development to me, like it might set a good precedent (for once).</p>
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