I KNEW IT!

I KNEW IT!

I KNEW IT!

The sheriff is not releasing name of the deputy who shot Scott. We are told he has been with the Sheriff’s Office for seven years and is a trained military veteran.

I SO KNEW IT!

Where are CSP and Tarran when you need them?

Also, the Sheriff’s quote:
“I support people to be able to bear arms to defend themselves,” Borders said. “But, you know, there was no imminent threat here. We were knocking on the door.”
is laughable in that Mr Scott’s shooting proves that the deputies were, in fact an “imminent threat” to his health and well being.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/calls-shed-light-night-deputies-knocked-wrong-door/nPx8Q/

according to the link to that rightwing blog I posted above, there are many outside witnesses and that may be true. Also, the girlfriend was inside. Lots of problems lurking for Deputy Sylvester!

Well, they have now decided that they have to take the position that Scott opened the door himself, and that may well get them into trouble in the long run. There may be damage on the door that would only be explained by a breach. If Scott’s estate’s atty can get its hands on the door, then they may be able to show that Scott opening the door is a lie with that damage. Unless, of course, LCSO and/or FDLE has already destroyed the door.

There is also the matter of where Scott’s blood was and was not. That may prove that Scott did not open the door.

Then there is the possibility of non-LEO witnesses, outside or inside, who can say that Scott was not at the door.

Finally, there may be an admission that the door was breached on the recordings of the police radio transmissions.

So, while it looks like a smooth move on the part of Sheriff Borders to say that Scott opened the door, this (if it is a lie) may well come back to bite him in the back of his pants, at least when the civil suit rolls around. he said that he is “reaching out” to the family. He better be. *rubs thumb tip and middle fingertip*

My guess is that the FDLE thing will be a whitewash, so no criminal charges for Sylvester and he will probably get to keep his job. I doubt they will even tell me whether he was in the military, but I will try to find out, of course. The whole things stinks of IRAQ!

“They banged on the door. They didn’t yell out, ‘Lake County Sheriff!’ They weren’t being loud; vocal. The guy opened the door at 2 in the morning,” said a witness who did not want to be identified.

That guy is Lois Griffin from Family Guy when she ran for mayor, and found she could get the crowd at her speeches cheering like maniacs by just answering every question with “Nine. Eleven.” They nailed it. Still not sure why that show gets so much hate.

All this confusion (open door/closed door) is intentional. Throw some dirt in the umpire’s (the public’s) eye and he’s not going to be able to make a rational decision. Problem is, sooner or later he’s going to have to make up
his fucking mind…

“It has nothing to do with what was printed on those objects,” he said, “but what those objects could be used for.” ~ Steve Johnson President of Sinclair Community College

I wonder if Mr. Johnson has figured out what the object atop his shoulders and between his ears could be used for.

*spit*

“The sheriff said Scott put a gun in the deputy’s face after he quickly opened the door. Borders said it happened very fast.

Borders said he plans on reaching out to Scott’s family and that the chaplain has been in contact with them.

When Belich mentioned to Borders about Scott’s friends resenting the mention of drugs being in the apartment, Borders said that the sheriff’s office never claimed Scott was a drug dealer and they were just reporting the facts when asked what was found inside the apartment.

Borders said they don’t know why Scott pointed the gun at the deputy.

Borders also said the motorcycle found parked was hot and had dirt on it that matched dirt from a footprint, which was leading to Scott’s door.”

While this does not quote the sheriff’s words, it sounds like he has now officially taken the position that Scott opened the door. Of course, his say-so does not make that true. Whether the FDLE cares or not is another matter.

It isn’t that fucking hard to deal with a dog, ffs. It really isn’t.

Learn from that officer. A dog is highly unlikely to attack a full grown man who is facing it. Even a full grown woman. Even if the dog is vicious. Now if you run….

I don’t think this is a fair consideration. The Lake County SO is trying to get the idea out there that they don’t have to announce on a knock and talk. That is why they phrased the thing abot how the door opened in such a misleading way. We are just supposed to believe that they don’t announce on knock and talks.

As you know, I am doubtful that this was a knock and talk. I think they breached. But I think the “strategic advantage” thing is aimed at people who are duped into thinking that what happened at Scott’s apartment was a knock and talk.

BTW, it is a strategic advantage to not announce at a knock and talk. The strategy is this: (i) regcit cracks the door to see who is knocking; (ii) policeman sticks boot in the partially opened door; (iii) regcit decides to close door when he sees it is policeman; and (iv) policeman enters forcibly on the theory that closing the door on the boot is a felony battery on the policeman. Here is a link to my blog about a recent case where this seems to have happened:

http://police4aqi.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/dearborn-heights-officer-scott-keller-goes-into-house-he-shouldnt-have/

It is a common fact pattern that appears in other cases. Often it is a gate instead of a door.

The regular kind.

What kind of idiots do cops hire as technical staff? After the first download off of my camera i figured out that it tags the previous locked position if it didn’t acquire a new one when a picture is taken. That fact alone is cause to question the validity of the geotag info…

“What I learned after I released that information, is that the deputies did not announce their presence because of the tactical situation — they wanted every advantage that they had, so they didn’t want to announce their presence loudly… the guy could’ve shot through the door, shot through the window, something like that,” said [spokesperson] Herrell.

Let’s fisk what Herrell is saying. He is saying that the assault suspect would hear banging on his door at 1:30 am, but he would not jump to the conclusion that it was police (or perhaps the friends of the man he supposedly helped beat) because the police did not announce. How in the world does that make any sense? If it had been the suspect (Jonathan Brown’s) apartment, then Brown would have had every reason to know who was banging, just having successfully eluded police within the hour. If it was intention to shoot thru the door at police, then he would have known to do that, announcement or no announcement. Herrell’s comment makes zero sense. Not announcing makes zero sense.