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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/07/11/army-unveils-new-hot-new-fashions-for-2013/comment-page-1/#comment-3526937</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, c&#039;mon, on a silly post about military fashion, nobody&#039;s gonna mention that Hugo Boss (possibly) designed and (definitely) made the dress uniforms for the SS?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, c&#8217;mon, on a silly post about military fashion, nobody&#8217;s gonna mention that Hugo Boss (possibly) designed and (definitely) made the dress uniforms for the SS?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are wrong, check out the ACU in action here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=acu+couch

TOTALLY INVISIBRE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are wrong, check out the ACU in action here:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=acu+couch" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/search?q=acu+couch</a></p>
<p>TOTALLY INVISIBRE</p>
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		<title>By: jmcross</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmcross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aren&#039;t retired generals subject to recall? Bring him back on active duty and court martial his sorry ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t retired generals subject to recall? Bring him back on active duty and court martial his sorry ass.</p>
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		<title>By: croaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>croaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@14 And lest we forget: UN Blue makes a lovely aimpoint.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@14 And lest we forget: UN Blue makes a lovely aimpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Other Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CharlesWT,

You make a very good point.  Between the advent of gunpowder and the development of the rifle, you&#039;ve got a long period where infantry was mostly useful firing volleys in big concentrations.  Those long files were already so clumsy and conspicuous that camouflage could have done little for them.

Dressing so as to make troops visible to the Fredericks and the Napoleons on the hilltops, was probably a much more important priority for those in charge of the dress code.

No doubt the red look did backfire against the American insurgents, but the main problem for Britain was that the Americans did everything they could to avoid actually showing up on any battlefields.

The real colonial uniform was the most fashionable outfit of all: absence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CharlesWT,</p>
<p>You make a very good point.  Between the advent of gunpowder and the development of the rifle, you&#8217;ve got a long period where infantry was mostly useful firing volleys in big concentrations.  Those long files were already so clumsy and conspicuous that camouflage could have done little for them.</p>
<p>Dressing so as to make troops visible to the Fredericks and the Napoleons on the hilltops, was probably a much more important priority for those in charge of the dress code.</p>
<p>No doubt the red look did backfire against the American insurgents, but the main problem for Britain was that the Americans did everything they could to avoid actually showing up on any battlefields.</p>
<p>The real colonial uniform was the most fashionable outfit of all: absence.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick from Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick from Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a mistake here. 

A certain volunteer in what became known as the French and Indian War complained mightily about British couteur, which made soldiers stick out like sore thumbs against opponents who wore buckskins and valued stealth. That was George Washington.

In the next war on this continent, General Nathaniel Greene praised the British uniforms highly. Greene wasn&#039;t fighting for the British.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a mistake here. </p>
<p>A certain volunteer in what became known as the French and Indian War complained mightily about British couteur, which made soldiers stick out like sore thumbs against opponents who wore buckskins and valued stealth. That was George Washington.</p>
<p>In the next war on this continent, General Nathaniel Greene praised the British uniforms highly. Greene wasn&#8217;t fighting for the British.</p>
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		<title>By: CharlesWT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CharlesWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, visible uniforms made it more difficult soldiers to hold back or defect in the heat of battle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, visible uniforms made it more difficult soldiers to hold back or defect in the heat of battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Ratnapala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Ratnapala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;
an example of a uniform that sacrifices the safety of its wearer in favor of fashion value. The image attempts to convey that our army is making a mistake that was made by the first foreign opponent it ever fought.
&lt;/em&gt;

I am not sure it was much of a mistake.  

Once upon a time, uniforms were *meant* to be visible so that soldiers could find their mates.  Thus the English red-and-white is slightly French opponents.  Perhaps a rethink was in order by the time of the American revolution, but I doubt it -- armies are pragmatic about this kind of stuff.  

It was more than a century before a big western army decided to switch to desert-shite-green.  And that was the British army.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><br />
an example of a uniform that sacrifices the safety of its wearer in favor of fashion value. The image attempts to convey that our army is making a mistake that was made by the first foreign opponent it ever fought.<br />
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<p>I am not sure it was much of a mistake.  </p>
<p>Once upon a time, uniforms were *meant* to be visible so that soldiers could find their mates.  Thus the English red-and-white is slightly French opponents.  Perhaps a rethink was in order by the time of the American revolution, but I doubt it &#8212; armies are pragmatic about this kind of stuff.  </p>
<p>It was more than a century before a big western army decided to switch to desert-shite-green.  And that was the British army.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick from Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick from Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LoFlyer, how exactly is it &quot;anti-military&quot; to point out that desk generals endangered front line soldiers by forcing them to dress in camouflage that wouldn&#039;t pass muster on a deer hunt?

It seems that when you think of the military, the first thing that comes to mind isn&#039;t the troops, but the Pentagon. If that&#039;s the case, you&#039;re not &quot;pro-military&quot; at all. You&#039;re &lt;em&gt;pro-politician.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoFlyer, how exactly is it &#8220;anti-military&#8221; to point out that desk generals endangered front line soldiers by forcing them to dress in camouflage that wouldn&#8217;t pass muster on a deer hunt?</p>
<p>It seems that when you think of the military, the first thing that comes to mind isn&#8217;t the troops, but the Pentagon. If that&#8217;s the case, you&#8217;re not &#8220;pro-military&#8221; at all. You&#8217;re <em>pro-politician.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Personanongrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personanongrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;#8 &#124;  LoFlyer &#124;  July 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm 
Never seen anything good published on this blog about the military. I understand the issues of this blog with civil rights issues of LE. The last posts have displayed your contributers are anti-military and offer zero evidence for there conclusions. I am calling the blog contibutors out. Just how has the US military oppressed you or the citzens in 50 years?
&lt;/em&gt;

The US military has been used for the past 150 some-odd years as mercenaries in order to bring &quot;stability/security&quot; to certain strategic geographical regions of the globe so that corporations may have access to cheap minerals/resources and slave labor.

Reading the books and video linked  below would be an important first step in understanding the role the US military has played in bringing &quot;stability/security&quot; to the lands of the unwashed.  

&lt;b&gt;War is a Racket written by two time Medal of Honor earner Major General Smedely D Butler USMC&lt;/b&gt;  

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

&lt;b&gt;Overthrow: America&#039;s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq written by Stephen Kinzer&lt;/b&gt;

Link:  http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Playaway-Nonfiction/dp/1606408720

&lt;b&gt;Why We Fight the video Director: Eugene Jarecki&lt;/b&gt;

Link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_VD0pE37vo



PS I served 1989-1997 in the USN and lived the lies first hand.  Which is why I took off my costume and left the show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#8 |  LoFlyer |  July 11th, 2012 at 4:48 pm<br />
Never seen anything good published on this blog about the military. I understand the issues of this blog with civil rights issues of LE. The last posts have displayed your contributers are anti-military and offer zero evidence for there conclusions. I am calling the blog contibutors out. Just how has the US military oppressed you or the citzens in 50 years?<br />
</em></p>
<p>The US military has been used for the past 150 some-odd years as mercenaries in order to bring &#8220;stability/security&#8221; to certain strategic geographical regions of the globe so that corporations may have access to cheap minerals/resources and slave labor.</p>
<p>Reading the books and video linked  below would be an important first step in understanding the role the US military has played in bringing &#8220;stability/security&#8221; to the lands of the unwashed.  </p>
<p><b>War is a Racket written by two time Medal of Honor earner Major General Smedely D Butler USMC</b>  </p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket</a></p>
<p><b>Overthrow: America&#8217;s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq written by Stephen Kinzer</b></p>
<p>Link:  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1606408720/theagitator-20/" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1606408720/theagitator-20/</a></p>
<p><b>Why We Fight the video Director: Eugene Jarecki</b></p>
<p>Link:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_VD0pE37vo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_VD0pE37vo</a></p>
<p>PS I served 1989-1997 in the USN and lived the lies first hand.  Which is why I took off my costume and left the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I caught the satire, I was just amused by the chosen example.

OTOH, in the era of the Drone War, I don&#039;t think uniforms (or the lack thereof) make any difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught the satire, I was just amused by the chosen example.</p>
<p>OTOH, in the era of the Drone War, I don&#8217;t think uniforms (or the lack thereof) make any difference.</p>
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		<title>By: LoFlyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoFlyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never seen anything good published on this blog about the military. I understand the issues of this blog with civil rights issues of LE. The last posts have displayed your contributers are anti-military and offer zero evidence for there conclusions. I am calling the blog contibutors out. Just how has the US military oppressed you or the citzens in 50 years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never seen anything good published on this blog about the military. I understand the issues of this blog with civil rights issues of LE. The last posts have displayed your contributers are anti-military and offer zero evidence for there conclusions. I am calling the blog contibutors out. Just how has the US military oppressed you or the citzens in 50 years?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perfect camo for the rivers of the blood of our enemies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect camo for the rivers of the blood of our enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick from Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick from Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aresen, no offense taken.

Let me break down the point of that image. If one reads the link, one will see that the Army spent 5 billion dollars, in a scandalous waste, developing camouflage uniforms that are actually more visible to the naked eye than non-camouflage uniforms. The new uniforms make our soldiers better targets. If you read the link, you&#039;ll see that this tragedy arose because Army brass decided a uniform that looks &quot;cooler&quot; than the Marine uniform was more important than a uniform that actually protects soldiers.

This post is an attempt to satirize that. I took a piece from a website devoted to high fashion and changed a few words.  I threw in the picture because I wanted to show, through an image readily cognizable to informed readers, an example of a uniform that sacrifices the safety of its wearer in favor of fashion value. The image attempts to convey that our army is making a mistake that was made by the first foreign opponent it ever fought.

Does that help?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aresen, no offense taken.</p>
<p>Let me break down the point of that image. If one reads the link, one will see that the Army spent 5 billion dollars, in a scandalous waste, developing camouflage uniforms that are actually more visible to the naked eye than non-camouflage uniforms. The new uniforms make our soldiers better targets. If you read the link, you&#8217;ll see that this tragedy arose because Army brass decided a uniform that looks &#8220;cooler&#8221; than the Marine uniform was more important than a uniform that actually protects soldiers.</p>
<p>This post is an attempt to satirize that. I took a piece from a website devoted to high fashion and changed a few words.  I threw in the picture because I wanted to show, through an image readily cognizable to informed readers, an example of a uniform that sacrifices the safety of its wearer in favor of fashion value. The image attempts to convey that our army is making a mistake that was made by the first foreign opponent it ever fought.</p>
<p>Does that help?</p>
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		<title>By: a leap at the wheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>a leap at the wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This shouldn&#039;t be a shock to anyone with a passing knowledge in computer vision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shouldn&#8217;t be a shock to anyone with a passing knowledge in computer vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, Patrick, no offense, but didn&#039;t the Red Uniforms belong to the Other Side in 1776?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Patrick, no offense, but didn&#8217;t the Red Uniforms belong to the Other Side in 1776?</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and one - military fashion show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O__i1b6GBmQ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and one &#8211; military fashion show <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O__i1b6GBmQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O__i1b6GBmQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Personanongrata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Personanongrata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All service people in the US armed forces just take off your uniform and leave the show.

The government can&#039;t fight war without cannon-fodder.

If the US government is in need of sacrifical lambs have the traitor scum operating the levers of power send their loved ones off to fight in the wars based wholey upon lies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All service people in the US armed forces just take off your uniform and leave the show.</p>
<p>The government can&#8217;t fight war without cannon-fodder.</p>
<p>If the US government is in need of sacrifical lambs have the traitor scum operating the levers of power send their loved ones off to fight in the wars based wholey upon lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick from Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick from Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take responsibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take responsibility.</p>
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