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	<title>Comments on: You Can&#8217;t Eat This (Or That, Either)</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Tatiana Covington</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/07/05/you-cant-eat-this-or-that-either/comment-page-1/#comment-3508047</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatiana Covington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about requiring the state to eat shit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about requiring the state to eat shit?</p>
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		<title>By: Heaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 21:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if instead of banning foods which are bad for you, or trying to mitigate the affects of harmful fool (like Mayor Bloomberg&#039;s campaign in NYC with soft drinks) we just kicked the legs out from farm subsidies to sugar and corn? If you stopped corn subsidies alone, the price of high fructose corn syrup would rise sharply, it would become less ubiquitous, and public health would improve on its own-- through the free market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if instead of banning foods which are bad for you, or trying to mitigate the affects of harmful fool (like Mayor Bloomberg&#8217;s campaign in NYC with soft drinks) we just kicked the legs out from farm subsidies to sugar and corn? If you stopped corn subsidies alone, the price of high fructose corn syrup would rise sharply, it would become less ubiquitous, and public health would improve on its own&#8211; through the free market.</p>
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		<title>By: Anodyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anodyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 21:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The raw liver ban in Japan is, if I remember correctly, specifically aimed at raw fugu liver - which is so incredibly toxic, most chefs won&#039;t even try to prepare it. (You&#039;d have a hard time finding someone willing to prepare fugu, too - it&#039;s notoriously tricky to do right and getting it wrong can lead to death.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The raw liver ban in Japan is, if I remember correctly, specifically aimed at raw fugu liver &#8211; which is so incredibly toxic, most chefs won&#8217;t even try to prepare it. (You&#8217;d have a hard time finding someone willing to prepare fugu, too &#8211; it&#8217;s notoriously tricky to do right and getting it wrong can lead to death.)</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 23:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@22 - &quot;Animal Welfare&quot;? Yea, ban standard slaughter first then get back to me on those.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22 &#8211; &#8220;Animal Welfare&#8221;? Yea, ban standard slaughter first then get back to me on those.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Poser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Poser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is strange about the ban on kibbeh nayeh and steak tartare is that they only pose a health risk if the ground meat is obtained from a mass supplier. There is very little risk if the restaurant buys the meat whole, washes it off carefully, grinds it itself and serves it within a reasonable time after grinding - bacteria such as E coli result from surface contamination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is strange about the ban on kibbeh nayeh and steak tartare is that they only pose a health risk if the ground meat is obtained from a mass supplier. There is very little risk if the restaurant buys the meat whole, washes it off carefully, grinds it itself and serves it within a reasonable time after grinding &#8211; bacteria such as E coli result from surface contamination.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwight Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...but the NB ban is focused at the river tubbing, which is huge tourist attraction&quot;.

This. It does not ban the sales of beverages in cans or bottles; it bans the use of disposable containers on the Comal and Guadalupe rivers inside New Braunfels city limits. You can still buy beer in cans or bottles; you just have to pour it into a &quot;non-disposable&quot; container before going on the river.

The wisdom and economic impact of the law &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.statesman.com/news/local/some-still-confused-by-new-braunfels-can-ban-2409329.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;can be debated&lt;/a&gt;, but if we&#039;re going to talk about it, let&#039;s talk about it correctly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;but the NB ban is focused at the river tubbing, which is huge tourist attraction&#8221;.</p>
<p>This. It does not ban the sales of beverages in cans or bottles; it bans the use of disposable containers on the Comal and Guadalupe rivers inside New Braunfels city limits. You can still buy beer in cans or bottles; you just have to pour it into a &#8220;non-disposable&#8221; container before going on the river.</p>
<p>The wisdom and economic impact of the law <a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/local/some-still-confused-by-new-braunfels-can-ban-2409329.html" rel="nofollow">can be debated</a>, but if we&#8217;re going to talk about it, let&#8217;s talk about it correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bans on Foie Gras here and similar bans on Kosher and Halal slaughter are coming from an animal treatment perspective. Bloomberg is just a nut. Different things altogether.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bans on Foie Gras here and similar bans on Kosher and Halal slaughter are coming from an animal treatment perspective. Bloomberg is just a nut. Different things altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KP said &quot;As for New Braunfels, I appreciate the banning of beverages in cans. OR, rather than banning the cans, I’d like to see a city or state or county demand that beverages be available in both cans and GLASS (not plastics).&quot;

That&#039;s a good idea, but the NB ban is focused at the river tubbing, which is huge tourist attraction.  You do not want glass bottles littering the bottom of a shallow river which thousands of people visit almost year round.  Could you image the EMS bill?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KP said &#8220;As for New Braunfels, I appreciate the banning of beverages in cans. OR, rather than banning the cans, I’d like to see a city or state or county demand that beverages be available in both cans and GLASS (not plastics).&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good idea, but the NB ban is focused at the river tubbing, which is huge tourist attraction.  You do not want glass bottles littering the bottom of a shallow river which thousands of people visit almost year round.  Could you image the EMS bill?</p>
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		<title>By: Furpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Canned beverages, Texas:

Yall should have voted for the bottle deposit law last year.
Up here in Michigan it was passed in late 70`s , early 80`s, seemed like a pain the butt at the time, but it sure cleaned up the roadsides. You no longer see beer cans tossed on the sides of roads, or rivers.

Even if your a litterbug and toss em, someone will stop and pick them up.
Thanks to this law we have had clean roadsides and rivers for over three decades now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canned beverages, Texas:</p>
<p>Yall should have voted for the bottle deposit law last year.<br />
Up here in Michigan it was passed in late 70`s , early 80`s, seemed like a pain the butt at the time, but it sure cleaned up the roadsides. You no longer see beer cans tossed on the sides of roads, or rivers.</p>
<p>Even if your a litterbug and toss em, someone will stop and pick them up.<br />
Thanks to this law we have had clean roadsides and rivers for over three decades now.</p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised that people who want to ban foie gras don&#039;t also want to ban veal. Or most pork, or most eggs, or most chicken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that people who want to ban foie gras don&#8217;t also want to ban veal. Or most pork, or most eggs, or most chicken.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonnelle</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/07/05/you-cant-eat-this-or-that-either/comment-page-1/#comment-3500104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonnelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Tennessee, it is next to impossible to find raw milk. I buy it from the Amish at the Farmers&#039; Market. They label it as &quot;pet food&quot; to get around state law.

And it is delicious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Tennessee, it is next to impossible to find raw milk. I buy it from the Amish at the Farmers&#8217; Market. They label it as &#8220;pet food&#8221; to get around state law.</p>
<p>And it is delicious.</p>
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		<title>By: JMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although not a &quot;ban&quot;, per se, we&#039;ve all seen idiotic local govt nannies closing kid&#039;s lemonade stands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although not a &#8220;ban&#8221;, per se, we&#8217;ve all seen idiotic local govt nannies closing kid&#8217;s lemonade stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The foie gras ban doesn&#039;t really belong, as it&#039;s (ostensibly) for the benefit of the geese&#039;s health as opposed to the benefit of the consumer&#039;s health.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foie gras ban doesn&#8217;t really belong, as it&#8217;s (ostensibly) for the benefit of the geese&#8217;s health as opposed to the benefit of the consumer&#8217;s health.</p>
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		<title>By: Mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s ironic that tomatoes are considered too &quot;Christian,&quot; since Christendom had no tomatoes until after Columbus came back from the New World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic that tomatoes are considered too &#8220;Christian,&#8221; since Christendom had no tomatoes until after Columbus came back from the New World.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 06:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe Foie Gras was banned 5 or so years ago in PDX...

As for New Braunfels, I appreciate the banning of beverages in cans.  OR, rather than banning the cans, I&#039;d like to see a city or state or county demand that beverages be available in both cans and GLASS (not plastics).  

IMHO, drinks taste better in glass.  As the insides of glass bottles are not treated as are most (all?) AL cans beverages in glass should be better for you, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Foie Gras was banned 5 or so years ago in PDX&#8230;</p>
<p>As for New Braunfels, I appreciate the banning of beverages in cans.  OR, rather than banning the cans, I&#8217;d like to see a city or state or county demand that beverages be available in both cans and GLASS (not plastics).  </p>
<p>IMHO, drinks taste better in glass.  As the insides of glass bottles are not treated as are most (all?) AL cans beverages in glass should be better for you, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Ornithorhynchus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ornithorhynchus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 04:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read that some European countries ban Kosher and Halal slaughter.  I think that most of them allow the importation of Kosher or Halal meat from other countries, but I seem to remember reading that Switzerland bans that as well.
I&#039;m not certain, so you might want to look these up yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that some European countries ban Kosher and Halal slaughter.  I think that most of them allow the importation of Kosher or Halal meat from other countries, but I seem to remember reading that Switzerland bans that as well.<br />
I&#8217;m not certain, so you might want to look these up yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Druggist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Druggist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 00:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah you should correct the bit about Egypt in the post. That&#039;s akin to saying that the USA bans zucchini bread because the Westboro Baptist Church declared it the most gay of all baked goods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah you should correct the bit about Egypt in the post. That&#8217;s akin to saying that the USA bans zucchini bread because the Westboro Baptist Church declared it the most gay of all baked goods.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew_M_Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew_M_Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 00:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/05/27/goodbye-to-locally-processed-meats/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Goodbye to Locally Processed Meats&lt;/a&gt;
05/27/10 - Cato@Liberty by Walter Olson
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Joe Cloud is a small meat processor in Virginia [edited]:
Changes in national food regulation make it difficult for small plants to stay in business. In 2000, small USDA-inspected slaughter and processing plants were required to adopt the costly Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP) food safety plan. There are estimates that more than 20% of those plants went out of business.
Now, proposed changes to HACCP threaten to take down many of the ones that remain, making healthy, local meats a rare commodity.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2009/01/stop-death-from-quilts-and-food.html#haccp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stop the Death from Quilts and Food&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/05/27/goodbye-to-locally-processed-meats/" rel="nofollow"><br />
Goodbye to Locally Processed Meats</a><br />
05/27/10 &#8211; Cato@Liberty by Walter Olson</p>
<blockquote><p>
Joe Cloud is a small meat processor in Virginia [edited]:<br />
Changes in national food regulation make it difficult for small plants to stay in business. In 2000, small USDA-inspected slaughter and processing plants were required to adopt the costly Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP) food safety plan. There are estimates that more than 20% of those plants went out of business.<br />
Now, proposed changes to HACCP threaten to take down many of the ones that remain, making healthy, local meats a rare commodity.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2009/01/stop-death-from-quilts-and-food.html#haccp" rel="nofollow">Stop the Death from Quilts and Food</a></p>
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		<title>By: Xenocles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xenocles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 23:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@1 You can buy raw milk cheese in the US. Organic Valley makes a decent cheddar at least. The FDA specifically recognizes aged hard raw milk cheese as safe, due mostly to the acidity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@1 You can buy raw milk cheese in the US. Organic Valley makes a decent cheddar at least. The FDA specifically recognizes aged hard raw milk cheese as safe, due mostly to the acidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mairead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mairead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;ban&quot; on tomatoes in Egypt isn&#039;t a ban, except for those who want to obey that particular group of pseudo-Muslim hysterics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;ban&#8221; on tomatoes in Egypt isn&#8217;t a ban, except for those who want to obey that particular group of pseudo-Muslim hysterics.</p>
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