The “LALALALALALALALA” you hear is combined with a few million liberals with their fingers in their ears.

This goes WAY back. We should’ve resisted the “courtesy officers” or “D.A.R.E.” officers or whatever else the sheriffs dept. or city cops call their men inside elementary, middle, and high schools. Keep law enforcement as far away as possible from young minds. Teaching kids to submit to authority in a police state is wrong.

Sounds like a very different affair, however, and doesn’t involve kids playing with riot armour and shotguns.

How can such people be regarded as a leaders of a legitimate government…

See, there’s your problem right there. ;)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Operation Wide Receiver accounted for all of the weapons upon conclusion.

If memory serves, there were a couple of problems with WR, in that the RFID trackers could be damaged when hidden in the guns, thereby reducing their already limited detectability. In at least one case, the bad guys figured out they were being tracked, drove around until the helicopter had to land, and then dashed across the border.

I don’t remember the account I read being clear about whether those guns were recovered, so we might both be right.

Your last sentence may be true, though not in the way you intended.

Prior to the exposure of F&F, Obama claimed to be outraged that firearms that had been sold in the U.S. were ending up in the hands of Mexican criminals, and said that to stop that from happening we need to place new restrictions on the sale of rifles suitable for keeping a mob at bay. If Obama’s outrage was genuine, he should have reacted to the revelation that the BATF had armed Mexican gangs by demanding the hides of the people responsible.

Instead, he and Eric Holder ignore the government’s role in arming Mexican gangs, while continuing to express outrage at the fact that U.S. guns are ending up in Mexico, and demanding more “gun control” to deal with it.

Given their continuing “outrage” about U.S. guns in Mexico, Obama and Holder cannot plausibly claim that the issue isn’t important enough for them to demand the hides of the people responsible. Rather, it would seem that–at best–Holder and Obama really don’t mind if U.S. guns end up in Mexico, if their doing so can be used to justify more gun control. Willfully turning a blind eye to major crimes because one actually approves of them is not proper behavior for an attorney general–at minimum it would constitute a refusal to perform his legally-mandated duties and, as such, grounds for immediate discharge.

You’re right the whole affair seems to be political theater, but it’s not because Mr. Holder’s conduct does not merit investigation. Rather, it’s political theater because too many spineless Republicans speak in silly terms of “Holder had better comply with our 592nd demand, or else we’ll have to make a 593rd demand”, rather than in terms of impeachment. Clinton’s impeachment failed because many people believed that the charges against him, even if true, were too minor to justify removal from office. By contrast, it appears on the face of it that Holder and Obama are, at minimum, demonstrating deliberate indifference to the commission of some major crimes. How can such people be regarded as a leaders of a legitimate government when they willingly tolerate such lawlessness within their own agencies?

Meiczyslaw (#46)“Keep in mind that “Wide Receiver” actually had RFID tags on the walked guns, and was discontinued when ATF realized that the plan wasn’t working and would never work. “

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Operation Wide Receiver accounted for all of the weapons upon conclusion. But Operation Fast and Furious, which was a distinct operation, allowed guns to get into the hands of drug gangs.

So, when Jay Carney claims “Bush did it” and Holder stopped it, he’s leaving out many critical facts.

the Zimmerman police chief has finally been officially fired

He turned in his resignation back in April, and the city didn’t accept it. Now they fire him. Weird.

I don’t blame him for wanting to escape that mess – it was clear even back then what a political mess that was becoming.

Think back a few years, particularly the Valerie Plame Wilson case. Several people involved in that were protected via “executive privilege”.

As best I could tell, that was a (stupid and short-sighted) attempt to deflect politically-motivated BS.

In that particular case, we KNOW it was politically motivated BS because the source of the leak was known from the beginning (Richard Armitage), and the special prosecutor just went fishing for whatever else he could find. (Not to mention that the original charge was hilarious to begin with – yes, let’s “out” a “covert” agent who hasn’t been in the field for years and commutes to CIA headquarters every day to pilot a desk. It’s so EVIL! Actually, the claim that they were “outing” her to point out her nepotism (a charge that the special prosecutor’s evidence showed to be true) was much more plausible all along, but somehow, the actual crime committed, and the person who did do the actual outing, were both left alone to try to get someone more politically desirable – in other words, political BS of the highest order.)

In this case (F&F), we don’t know for sure just yet, but the actions (and already-proven lies under oath, not to mention the very-likely lies under oath) don’t pass the straight face test, much less the smell test, so I’ll be VERY surprised if that’s all that’s going on.

Of course, there is also ALWAYS politics involved, and either side will ALWAYS be tempted to interpret things better for their side and worse for the other. That’s just life (in politics and out).

He’s really comedy gold.

Secrecy is the way of the tyrant.