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	<title>Comments on: Reuters on the Painkiller Issue</title>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3463688</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to the DEA&#039;s war on Pain Patients, we must travel 5 hrs each way to take my husband to the doctor.  Why? His Doctor moved.  Get a new one?  Good luck.  There are no Doctors with in a 200 mile radius of us that will take on chronic pain patients.  Why?  They are afraid of the DEA.  We have switched pharmacies twice, because the one pharmacy quit carrying narcotics all together, and Walmart carries such limited quantities per month they would often run out before my husbands could be filled.  We thought about going to Walgreens, thankfully they were honest with us and told us that we would have had the same problem with them that we did with Walmart.  The town nearest us has a nice new hospital.  If any doctor wants to see their patients at that hospital, even if they are not on staff, they have to sign a contract with the hospital agreeing to never treat chronic pain patients with schedule 1 narcotics.  They have to agree to never prescribe them for a patient for more than 3 months in a year, and not to prescribe it to any patient who has been on them for three or more months in the last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the DEA&#8217;s war on Pain Patients, we must travel 5 hrs each way to take my husband to the doctor.  Why? His Doctor moved.  Get a new one?  Good luck.  There are no Doctors with in a 200 mile radius of us that will take on chronic pain patients.  Why?  They are afraid of the DEA.  We have switched pharmacies twice, because the one pharmacy quit carrying narcotics all together, and Walmart carries such limited quantities per month they would often run out before my husbands could be filled.  We thought about going to Walgreens, thankfully they were honest with us and told us that we would have had the same problem with them that we did with Walmart.  The town nearest us has a nice new hospital.  If any doctor wants to see their patients at that hospital, even if they are not on staff, they have to sign a contract with the hospital agreeing to never treat chronic pain patients with schedule 1 narcotics.  They have to agree to never prescribe them for a patient for more than 3 months in a year, and not to prescribe it to any patient who has been on them for three or more months in the last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3463656</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Doc T.  I never said it did.  A schedule 1 narcotic is a schedule 1 narcotic no matter what you add to it.  Oxycodone and hydrocodone are both schedule 1 with or without acetaminophen.  The DEA will not specify how much of a schedule 1 drug qualifies as &quot;potential dealer&quot;.  Therefore you can&#039;t know if you are over their arbitrary number or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Doc T.  I never said it did.  A schedule 1 narcotic is a schedule 1 narcotic no matter what you add to it.  Oxycodone and hydrocodone are both schedule 1 with or without acetaminophen.  The DEA will not specify how much of a schedule 1 drug qualifies as &#8220;potential dealer&#8221;.  Therefore you can&#8217;t know if you are over their arbitrary number or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3443123</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 03:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Balko,

Thank you for being one of the few people in the media who seem to understand how devastating this war ON PAIN PATIENTS has become for us.  For those of us who rely on the use of long term opioid therapy in order to survive, and have major, diagnosed, pain conditions....it is unfathomable to us that the very government we rely on to protect us, is the one abusing and neglecting us! With media attention to groups like, PROP, who recommend taking, &quot;Tylenol&quot; and to use other forms of non-opioid pain relief....people are buying into this idea that other treatments will work for us.  if non-opioid pain treatments worked exclusively for us, we wouldn&#039;t be taking opioids!!!!  WE ARE the people who have used these as LAST resort, because we have tried everything else....for YEARS, before we could find a doctor willing to prescribe pain medications to us.   I suffer from a rare, genetic, connective tissue disorder called, Ehlers-danlos syndrome.  Patients with EDS produce faulty collagen, which acts as the &quot;glue&quot; in our bodies.....it effects every organ system, blood vessel, GI tract, etc....  The results are devastating.... Loose, unstable, hypermobile joints that constantly dislocate and subluxate, multiple surgeries, constant injury, the list is endless!  There is no cure, and without opioid medications (if we have been lucky enough to find a doctor to prescribe them) would be bedridden.  We have severe, intractable chronic pain, in addition to major episodes of acute pain...sometimes DAILY.  Before I found proper pain control with opioids, I was suicidal with pain.  You cannot live with THAT kind of pain everyday, and have any HOPE.  To think of going back to THAT horrible, pathetic, agonizing existence is devastating.   The idea that I could walk into my pharmacy one day, to find out they no longer carry my medicine, or that their is a shortage....is TERRIFYING!  What&#039;s even more terrifying, is that it is INTENTIONAL.... a massive pain crisis, and withdrawal, perpetuated by MY own government.  Putting my life at risk, because people who aren&#039;t supposed to be using this medicine overdosed on it.  SO,....what?  Punish people who already suffer tremendously.....so that determined addicts can just &quot;switch&quot; their drug if choice?   Let&#039;s just say, that the kind of anxiety that this crisis is putting on legit pain patients, doesn&#039;t exactly help our already stressed, painful bodies.  I feel so terrible for what patients are going through in Florida....it is ABUSE.  Well....I&#039;m next, I guess.  My insurer, BCBS of MA has decided that people like me, don&#039;t need any relief from severe, intractable, incurable pain, for any longer than 15 days.   Apparently, all my &quot;extra&quot; doses laying around could pose a threat to society!   SO....lets get this straight!  My government wants me to suffer WITHOUT pain control, and my &quot;health&quot; insurance company wants to tell me I should be cured from INTRACTABLE pain in two weeks?  Okay, got it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Balko,</p>
<p>Thank you for being one of the few people in the media who seem to understand how devastating this war ON PAIN PATIENTS has become for us.  For those of us who rely on the use of long term opioid therapy in order to survive, and have major, diagnosed, pain conditions&#8230;.it is unfathomable to us that the very government we rely on to protect us, is the one abusing and neglecting us! With media attention to groups like, PROP, who recommend taking, &#8220;Tylenol&#8221; and to use other forms of non-opioid pain relief&#8230;.people are buying into this idea that other treatments will work for us.  if non-opioid pain treatments worked exclusively for us, we wouldn&#8217;t be taking opioids!!!!  WE ARE the people who have used these as LAST resort, because we have tried everything else&#8230;.for YEARS, before we could find a doctor willing to prescribe pain medications to us.   I suffer from a rare, genetic, connective tissue disorder called, Ehlers-danlos syndrome.  Patients with EDS produce faulty collagen, which acts as the &#8220;glue&#8221; in our bodies&#8230;..it effects every organ system, blood vessel, GI tract, etc&#8230;.  The results are devastating&#8230;. Loose, unstable, hypermobile joints that constantly dislocate and subluxate, multiple surgeries, constant injury, the list is endless!  There is no cure, and without opioid medications (if we have been lucky enough to find a doctor to prescribe them) would be bedridden.  We have severe, intractable chronic pain, in addition to major episodes of acute pain&#8230;sometimes DAILY.  Before I found proper pain control with opioids, I was suicidal with pain.  You cannot live with THAT kind of pain everyday, and have any HOPE.  To think of going back to THAT horrible, pathetic, agonizing existence is devastating.   The idea that I could walk into my pharmacy one day, to find out they no longer carry my medicine, or that their is a shortage&#8230;.is TERRIFYING!  What&#8217;s even more terrifying, is that it is INTENTIONAL&#8230;. a massive pain crisis, and withdrawal, perpetuated by MY own government.  Putting my life at risk, because people who aren&#8217;t supposed to be using this medicine overdosed on it.  SO,&#8230;.what?  Punish people who already suffer tremendously&#8230;..so that determined addicts can just &#8220;switch&#8221; their drug if choice?   Let&#8217;s just say, that the kind of anxiety that this crisis is putting on legit pain patients, doesn&#8217;t exactly help our already stressed, painful bodies.  I feel so terrible for what patients are going through in Florida&#8230;.it is ABUSE.  Well&#8230;.I&#8217;m next, I guess.  My insurer, BCBS of MA has decided that people like me, don&#8217;t need any relief from severe, intractable, incurable pain, for any longer than 15 days.   Apparently, all my &#8220;extra&#8221; doses laying around could pose a threat to society!   SO&#8230;.lets get this straight!  My government wants me to suffer WITHOUT pain control, and my &#8220;health&#8221; insurance company wants to tell me I should be cured from INTRACTABLE pain in two weeks?  Okay, got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne Hyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3420516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanne Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Mr. Balko, for writing this. I am a chronic pain patient.  In addition to the doctors, this War on Drugs most definitely has now hit the local pharmacies and the legitimate pain patients in Florida and more and more states in this country.  In the past 6 months I have had what was once a disabling but manageable condition turn into, as you said, a living hell.  I wake up every day in excruciating pain that used to be invisible to most people I know.  Because of my monthly prescription for opioid medication I was able to live a normal life, granted with some limitations but basically live like most people. I can’t work but I was able to go grocery shopping, cook dinner, run errands, help a friend by driving him to his doctor’s appointments and even go out once in a while for a meal.  That all changed in January when I had to drive to 5 pharmacies to find my prescription.  I thought it was just a temporary shortage but then it happened the next month, too.  I was given strange looks and whenever I asked about the reasons why, I was given conflicting information.  It was all so strange. I began googling everything I could and found a Facebook group of almost 100 members who were just like me – legitimate chronic pain patients having trouble getting their prescriptions filled in Florida.  All had been profiled, denied, lied to and treated like criminals.  I found some helpful suggestions.  I was told I needed to “get on a list”, to keep an impeccable appearance and to not use the drive through but go in to the pharmacy.  Some have had to take their medical records in to the pharmacist in order to prove that they needed the medications even though they had been receiving the same medications there for a period of 4, 5, and 6 years. Some have been told to try Mom and Pop pharmacies only to be charged high prices. Doing the pharmacy crawl every month is nearly impossible to do when you are in pain.  So I asked my doctor for something that I “could” get filled.  It wasn’t perfect but it was something. Then my doctor of 6 years, board certified in pain management and internal medicine, suddenly decided to throw in the towel and just stopped seeing all of his pain patients.  I had to scramble to find another and even he seems to be pushing non-drug therapies. The added stress of not knowing from one month to the next if you will be bedridden with pain or able to function is maddening.  It just makes the pain and fatigue worse.  I try to advocate but I’m sick and it just gets more and more frustrating.  When 98% of everything one reads is anti-opioid and then reading about the struggles of more and more people every day, it gets very frustrating and I feel very helpless. I find I need to stop working for change because it just makes the pain worse.  So, thank you, again, and thank you to all who have commented.  It is only through reading articles like this that I am given renewed hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mr. Balko, for writing this. I am a chronic pain patient.  In addition to the doctors, this War on Drugs most definitely has now hit the local pharmacies and the legitimate pain patients in Florida and more and more states in this country.  In the past 6 months I have had what was once a disabling but manageable condition turn into, as you said, a living hell.  I wake up every day in excruciating pain that used to be invisible to most people I know.  Because of my monthly prescription for opioid medication I was able to live a normal life, granted with some limitations but basically live like most people. I can’t work but I was able to go grocery shopping, cook dinner, run errands, help a friend by driving him to his doctor’s appointments and even go out once in a while for a meal.  That all changed in January when I had to drive to 5 pharmacies to find my prescription.  I thought it was just a temporary shortage but then it happened the next month, too.  I was given strange looks and whenever I asked about the reasons why, I was given conflicting information.  It was all so strange. I began googling everything I could and found a Facebook group of almost 100 members who were just like me – legitimate chronic pain patients having trouble getting their prescriptions filled in Florida.  All had been profiled, denied, lied to and treated like criminals.  I found some helpful suggestions.  I was told I needed to “get on a list”, to keep an impeccable appearance and to not use the drive through but go in to the pharmacy.  Some have had to take their medical records in to the pharmacist in order to prove that they needed the medications even though they had been receiving the same medications there for a period of 4, 5, and 6 years. Some have been told to try Mom and Pop pharmacies only to be charged high prices. Doing the pharmacy crawl every month is nearly impossible to do when you are in pain.  So I asked my doctor for something that I “could” get filled.  It wasn’t perfect but it was something. Then my doctor of 6 years, board certified in pain management and internal medicine, suddenly decided to throw in the towel and just stopped seeing all of his pain patients.  I had to scramble to find another and even he seems to be pushing non-drug therapies. The added stress of not knowing from one month to the next if you will be bedridden with pain or able to function is maddening.  It just makes the pain and fatigue worse.  I try to advocate but I’m sick and it just gets more and more frustrating.  When 98% of everything one reads is anti-opioid and then reading about the struggles of more and more people every day, it gets very frustrating and I feel very helpless. I find I need to stop working for change because it just makes the pain worse.  So, thank you, again, and thank you to all who have commented.  It is only through reading articles like this that I am given renewed hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Bergman</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3418533</link>
		<dc:creator>Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, I have to wonder.  Practicing medicine without a license is a crime.  Medical practice is not just the administering of drugs, it also encompasses taking a patient off of a drug regimen.
 
At what point does an act of law enforcement cross the line into the practice of medicine without a license?  The DEA is literally diagnosing patients as not needing the medicine actual doctors have prescribed.
 
Are federal agents exempt from all laws?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I have to wonder.  Practicing medicine without a license is a crime.  Medical practice is not just the administering of drugs, it also encompasses taking a patient off of a drug regimen.</p>
<p>At what point does an act of law enforcement cross the line into the practice of medicine without a license?  The DEA is literally diagnosing patients as not needing the medicine actual doctors have prescribed.</p>
<p>Are federal agents exempt from all laws?</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Kelley</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3414294</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope some of these people have the ability to leave the U.S.  I don&#039;t know where they could go but there have go to be other, better places out there that treat people humanely.  This GD country is a disgrace because of crap like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope some of these people have the ability to leave the U.S.  I don&#8217;t know where they could go but there have go to be other, better places out there that treat people humanely.  This GD country is a disgrace because of crap like this.</p>
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		<title>By: GoodAsh</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3413941</link>
		<dc:creator>GoodAsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 01:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[-&gt;They all laughed. One of them said: “What do think? At first everybody
-&gt; would say ‘this is bullshit’ and next thing you know some of us would be
-&gt; posing for a picture next to a big ass pile of confiscated Snickers After
-&gt;that, game on.”

--&gt;Which illustrates that they are uncaring evil people who believe that
--&gt; the mantra “I’m just doing my job” relinquishes them from any moral
--&gt; responsibility of their actions. It matters not how many lives are
--&gt; destroyed over immoral laws. They uphold the law and your issue is
--&gt; with politicians who make the laws.

----&gt;  Which negates your statements in #29.

I have to say that the above are rather valid points.  Where is the morality or conscience in these officers of the law?  The real root of the problem surely is backstopped by money.  It seems these days that policing for profit has become quite fashionable for all of the alphabet soup &quot;for our own good&quot; organizations.  From the drug warriors, the local cops right on down to the politicians who want some money to fund their pet project.  Federal, State and Local organizations have become hooked on the profit motive inherent in this sort of enforcement activity.

Back to the moral issue on this, it is shameful that we would deny even a single person who is suffering pain in order to prevent someone from doing something for their own good.  I have seen the effect of this war on pills first hand.  A friend of mine, whose mother was sick with a terminal neuropathy, was in constant excruciating pain.  The pain meds were the only reason her pain could be brought to tolerable levels so that she could get out of bed and do a few normal things like the rest of us.  When she did not have her pain medication, she could not even stand the pain that came from her broken nerve endings sending pain signals.  The conventional wisdom is that it is preferable to prevent someone from becoming an &quot;addict&quot; while relegating them to a state of mere bed ridden existence rather than treat their pain which allows them to regain some of the ability to live life again for the time they have left.

I have also seen in the case mentioned above, how doctors have become so risk averse to writing scripts for her to fill her pain medication, that it became necessary for her to fly to another state every couple of months to see her previous pain doctor who was courageous enough to give the DEA the finger for the sake of his patient.

This whole issue is superbly illustrative of what happens when human suffering can be converted into a for profit exercise at the behest of shameless single minded bureaucrats with no other purpose than servicing their narrow mandates for what they rationalize to be a just cause.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&gt;They all laughed. One of them said: “What do think? At first everybody<br />
-&gt; would say ‘this is bullshit’ and next thing you know some of us would be<br />
-&gt; posing for a picture next to a big ass pile of confiscated Snickers After<br />
-&gt;that, game on.”</p>
<p>&#8211;&gt;Which illustrates that they are uncaring evil people who believe that<br />
&#8211;&gt; the mantra “I’m just doing my job” relinquishes them from any moral<br />
&#8211;&gt; responsibility of their actions. It matters not how many lives are<br />
&#8211;&gt; destroyed over immoral laws. They uphold the law and your issue is<br />
&#8211;&gt; with politicians who make the laws.</p>
<p>&#8212;-&gt;  Which negates your statements in #29.</p>
<p>I have to say that the above are rather valid points.  Where is the morality or conscience in these officers of the law?  The real root of the problem surely is backstopped by money.  It seems these days that policing for profit has become quite fashionable for all of the alphabet soup &#8220;for our own good&#8221; organizations.  From the drug warriors, the local cops right on down to the politicians who want some money to fund their pet project.  Federal, State and Local organizations have become hooked on the profit motive inherent in this sort of enforcement activity.</p>
<p>Back to the moral issue on this, it is shameful that we would deny even a single person who is suffering pain in order to prevent someone from doing something for their own good.  I have seen the effect of this war on pills first hand.  A friend of mine, whose mother was sick with a terminal neuropathy, was in constant excruciating pain.  The pain meds were the only reason her pain could be brought to tolerable levels so that she could get out of bed and do a few normal things like the rest of us.  When she did not have her pain medication, she could not even stand the pain that came from her broken nerve endings sending pain signals.  The conventional wisdom is that it is preferable to prevent someone from becoming an &#8220;addict&#8221; while relegating them to a state of mere bed ridden existence rather than treat their pain which allows them to regain some of the ability to live life again for the time they have left.</p>
<p>I have also seen in the case mentioned above, how doctors have become so risk averse to writing scripts for her to fill her pain medication, that it became necessary for her to fly to another state every couple of months to see her previous pain doctor who was courageous enough to give the DEA the finger for the sake of his patient.</p>
<p>This whole issue is superbly illustrative of what happens when human suffering can be converted into a for profit exercise at the behest of shameless single minded bureaucrats with no other purpose than servicing their narrow mandates for what they rationalize to be a just cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Other Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3413811</link>
		<dc:creator>Other Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BamBam,

I&#039;m afraid you&#039;ve badly missed the point.  If a cop talking to a civilian in a room full of other cops can ADMIT that the drug war is just as morally arbitrary as a hypothetical campaign against black market candy bars, then there is clearly a basis for understanding between us and them.

But the path to that understanding is blocked when we retreat into the cheap and lazy refrain of denouncing all cops as &quot;uncaring evil people&quot;.

Do you think mean teachers are the root cause of failure in public schools?  Do you think the problems with our health care system can be neatly summed up by declaring that all nurses are insensitive bitches?  Would you say the war in Iraq is a disaster because our enlisted men are just a bunch of dicks?

Of course not.  You would never say THOSE things, because you recognize them for what they are: counter-productive, thought terminating cliches that prevent you from getting at the moral complexities of the real world.

So why say such things here?  What on earth do you gain by personalizing and crudely simplifying what is so obviously a systemic and complicated problem?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BamBam,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ve badly missed the point.  If a cop talking to a civilian in a room full of other cops can ADMIT that the drug war is just as morally arbitrary as a hypothetical campaign against black market candy bars, then there is clearly a basis for understanding between us and them.</p>
<p>But the path to that understanding is blocked when we retreat into the cheap and lazy refrain of denouncing all cops as &#8220;uncaring evil people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do you think mean teachers are the root cause of failure in public schools?  Do you think the problems with our health care system can be neatly summed up by declaring that all nurses are insensitive bitches?  Would you say the war in Iraq is a disaster because our enlisted men are just a bunch of dicks?</p>
<p>Of course not.  You would never say THOSE things, because you recognize them for what they are: counter-productive, thought terminating cliches that prevent you from getting at the moral complexities of the real world.</p>
<p>So why say such things here?  What on earth do you gain by personalizing and crudely simplifying what is so obviously a systemic and complicated problem?</p>
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		<title>By: BamBam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3412389</link>
		<dc:creator>BamBam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;They all laughed. One of them said: “What do think? At first everybody would say ‘this is bullshit’ and next thing you know some of us would be posing for a picture next to a big ass pile of confiscated Snickers After that, game on.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which illustrates that they are uncaring evil people who believe that the mantra &quot;I&#039;m just doing my job&quot; relinquishes them from any moral responsibility of their actions.  It matters not how many lives are destroyed over immoral laws.  They uphold the law and your issue is with politicians who make the laws.

Which negates your statements in #29.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They all laughed. One of them said: “What do think? At first everybody would say ‘this is bullshit’ and next thing you know some of us would be posing for a picture next to a big ass pile of confiscated Snickers After that, game on.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Which illustrates that they are uncaring evil people who believe that the mantra &#8220;I&#8217;m just doing my job&#8221; relinquishes them from any moral responsibility of their actions.  It matters not how many lives are destroyed over immoral laws.  They uphold the law and your issue is with politicians who make the laws.</p>
<p>Which negates your statements in #29.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-2/#comment-3412293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The government and the dea,nice job,you take it away from legitimate people and its still on the streets along with the other drugs,all you have done is force people like me into finding something for relief on the streets ,because I cant take my legal script to my local pharmacy to get it filled,you mite as well arrest us all now,as we are already being treated like criminals....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government and the dea,nice job,you take it away from legitimate people and its still on the streets along with the other drugs,all you have done is force people like me into finding something for relief on the streets ,because I cant take my legal script to my local pharmacy to get it filled,you mite as well arrest us all now,as we are already being treated like criminals&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3411793</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Long term use&quot; of NSAIDs: you can actually get an ulcer in a few weeks.  Its hell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Long term use&#8221; of NSAIDs: you can actually get an ulcer in a few weeks.  Its hell.</p>
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		<title>By: SJE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3411792</link>
		<dc:creator>SJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Bar: all drugs have side effects.  Naproxen and other NSAIDs generally are hell on your stomach, and long term use will cause ulcers.  The previous alternatives were Vioxx and Celebrex, but they are limited or banned because of cardiovascular complications.  Acetominophen has clear liver and kidney toxicities.  Interestingly, opiates are less hard on the liver, kidney and stomach, but do cause constipation and can (of course) kill you rather quickly in high doses.  

Unfortunately, the FDA and DEA focus too much on the harms/risks and not enough on the benefits.  For example, short term Vioxx use is arguably safer than short term high dose NSAIDs (Naproxen, Ibuprofen, etc), and opiates are king for pain control.  Of course, we are not allowed to take those risks ourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Bar: all drugs have side effects.  Naproxen and other NSAIDs generally are hell on your stomach, and long term use will cause ulcers.  The previous alternatives were Vioxx and Celebrex, but they are limited or banned because of cardiovascular complications.  Acetominophen has clear liver and kidney toxicities.  Interestingly, opiates are less hard on the liver, kidney and stomach, but do cause constipation and can (of course) kill you rather quickly in high doses.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the FDA and DEA focus too much on the harms/risks and not enough on the benefits.  For example, short term Vioxx use is arguably safer than short term high dose NSAIDs (Naproxen, Ibuprofen, etc), and opiates are king for pain control.  Of course, we are not allowed to take those risks ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: CTD</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3411147</link>
		<dc:creator>CTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As long as you have a law enforcement agency bringing a &lt;strike&gt;law enforcement&lt;/strike&gt; warfare mindset to what ought to be a medical issue, they’re going to look at every doctor, pharmacist, wholesaler, and patient as a potential &lt;strike&gt;criminal&lt;/strike&gt; enemy soldier. That’s what &lt;strike&gt;law enforcement officials&lt;/strike&gt; drug warriors do. They look for &lt;strike&gt;criminals&lt;/strike&gt; enemies.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As long as you have a law enforcement agency bringing a <strike>law enforcement</strike> warfare mindset to what ought to be a medical issue, they’re going to look at every doctor, pharmacist, wholesaler, and patient as a potential <strike>criminal</strike> enemy soldier. That’s what <strike>law enforcement officials</strike> drug warriors do. They look for <strike>criminals</strike> enemies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3410825</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
The drug war is state sanctioned persecution. The only good thing about it is that it will eventually end just as most persecution crusades end. Unfortunately, some new crusade will take its place.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A large part of the state&#039;s identity is persecution, not just the drug war, which helps you understand exactly how the state continues to exist.  It will eventually end...in pockets here and there that move on without a state.  Your last sentence sums up current status of the Arab Spring nicely.]]></description>
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The drug war is state sanctioned persecution. The only good thing about it is that it will eventually end just as most persecution crusades end. Unfortunately, some new crusade will take its place.
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<p>A large part of the state&#8217;s identity is persecution, not just the drug war, which helps you understand exactly how the state continues to exist.  It will eventually end&#8230;in pockets here and there that move on without a state.  Your last sentence sums up current status of the Arab Spring nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Pi Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3410777</link>
		<dc:creator>Pi Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#31 @ DocT:

Thanks for clearing that up. I think I&#039;d heard/read that somewhere but, after reviewing the Schedules more carefully _after_ commenting, I had a tough time making that fit my premise.

I get smarter every time I read here. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 @ DocT:</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing that up. I think I&#8217;d heard/read that somewhere but, after reviewing the Schedules more carefully _after_ commenting, I had a tough time making that fit my premise.</p>
<p>I get smarter every time I read here. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bar</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3410755</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Rheumatologist just reccomended I take Acetomenaphin daily, instead of Naproxen .  Is she trying to kill me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Rheumatologist just reccomended I take Acetomenaphin daily, instead of Naproxen .  Is she trying to kill me?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3410663</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah nevermind the comment immediately above.  Duh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah nevermind the comment immediately above.  Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3410556</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a little confused.  What does &quot;diversion&quot; mean in the context of this article?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little confused.  What does &#8220;diversion&#8221; mean in the context of this article?</p>
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		<title>By: The State vs. the People, Government vs. Freedom (and other news&#8230;) &#187; Scott Lazarowitz&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3410191</link>
		<dc:creator>The State vs. the People, Government vs. Freedom (and other news&#8230;) &#187; Scott Lazarowitz&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Radley Balko: Reuters on the Painkiller Issue  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: el coronado</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/reuters-on-the-painkiller-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-3409422</link>
		<dc:creator>el coronado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CSP - 

Citations? OK, will try. On the &quot;Kenny Easley got his kidney fried by the OTC painkillers the Seahawks kept by the gross in the training room and urged the players to grab a daily handful&quot; to stop those nagging aches &amp; pains, just google &#039;Kenny Easley + Ibuprofen&#039;. You&#039;ll get boocoo results, from wiki to the LA Times. 

On the &#039;Revenooers done poisoned alcohol in the &#039;20&#039;s thus killing possibly as many as 10,000 people&#039; (!!), try this one from &#039;Slate&#039;: 

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html

Enjoy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSP &#8211; </p>
<p>Citations? OK, will try. On the &#8220;Kenny Easley got his kidney fried by the OTC painkillers the Seahawks kept by the gross in the training room and urged the players to grab a daily handful&#8221; to stop those nagging aches &amp; pains, just google &#8216;Kenny Easley + Ibuprofen&#8217;. You&#8217;ll get boocoo results, from wiki to the LA Times. </p>
<p>On the &#8216;Revenooers done poisoned alcohol in the &#8217;20&#8242;s thus killing possibly as many as 10,000 people&#8217; (!!), try this one from &#8216;Slate&#8217;: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2010/02/the_chemists_war.html</a></p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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