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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Rojo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3409173</link>
		<dc:creator>Rojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 05:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Stephen 

Sounds partly like my experience. During voir dire we were asked to essentially support the idea that cops are inherently more trustworthy witnesses than defendants. They came around to me and asked me about this proposition and I said, &quot;Well, obviously defendants have incentives to lie or fudge or exaggerate, because they don&#039;t want to go to jail or get fined or whatever, but it seems to me that it is less recognized that cops also have incentives to lie or fudge or exaggerate, including career advancement, pressure from superiors to clear cases, and sometimes even petty personal reasons.&quot; Of course the prosecuting attorney immediately scribbled on his notepad and I was out shortly thereafter. I hope I infected the jury pool, but I don&#039;t know what happened. The defending attorney did give me a big thumbs up when I ran into him later that day on the street.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stephen </p>
<p>Sounds partly like my experience. During voir dire we were asked to essentially support the idea that cops are inherently more trustworthy witnesses than defendants. They came around to me and asked me about this proposition and I said, &#8220;Well, obviously defendants have incentives to lie or fudge or exaggerate, because they don&#8217;t want to go to jail or get fined or whatever, but it seems to me that it is less recognized that cops also have incentives to lie or fudge or exaggerate, including career advancement, pressure from superiors to clear cases, and sometimes even petty personal reasons.&#8221; Of course the prosecuting attorney immediately scribbled on his notepad and I was out shortly thereafter. I hope I infected the jury pool, but I don&#8217;t know what happened. The defending attorney did give me a big thumbs up when I ran into him later that day on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3408707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now can we please get rid of our stupid &quot;no buying alcohol before noon on a Sunday&quot; law for good? (To say nothing of that disgusting amendment...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now can we please get rid of our stupid &#8220;no buying alcohol before noon on a Sunday&#8221; law for good? (To say nothing of that disgusting amendment&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: StrangeOne</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3407119</link>
		<dc:creator>StrangeOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ C.S.P.

It&#039;s mostly just making a big show for all the powerful out-of-towners. My Dad does HVAC repair in Charlotte. He&#039;s been swamped as everyone even remotely involved in the DNC has been trying to get their systems in tip top shape. Hotels that have been neglecting regular maintenance for ten years, suddenly need their whole system replaced in a week. 

My guess is the liquor law change is to try and make NC look a little less bible-belty. Also its a holiday weekend so that would be like two days of a national convention without booze. They might screw up and help somebody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ C.S.P.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s mostly just making a big show for all the powerful out-of-towners. My Dad does HVAC repair in Charlotte. He&#8217;s been swamped as everyone even remotely involved in the DNC has been trying to get their systems in tip top shape. Hotels that have been neglecting regular maintenance for ten years, suddenly need their whole system replaced in a week. </p>
<p>My guess is the liquor law change is to try and make NC look a little less bible-belty. Also its a holiday weekend so that would be like two days of a national convention without booze. They might screw up and help somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406953</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[100 pound scrotum guy:

&lt;blockquote&gt;he wears a hoodie upside down to cover his scrotum&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My mind&#039;s eye! It burns!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 pound scrotum guy:</p>
<blockquote><p>he wears a hoodie upside down to cover his scrotum</p></blockquote>
<p>My mind&#8217;s eye! It burns!</p>
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		<title>By: (B)oscoH, Yogurt Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406829</link>
		<dc:creator>(B)oscoH, Yogurt Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So am I the only one who immediately thought of Octomom&#039;s financial troubles as I read about Wesley Warren Jr. and his 100 pound sack?

BTW, his condition was not caused by overconsumption of yogurt and did not leave him walking with swagger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So am I the only one who immediately thought of Octomom&#8217;s financial troubles as I read about Wesley Warren Jr. and his 100 pound sack?</p>
<p>BTW, his condition was not caused by overconsumption of yogurt and did not leave him walking with swagger.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406809</link>
		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The North Carolina story has all kinds of interesting angles. Are the Republicans doing this as professional courtesy for their fellow parasites in the Democrats? Or are they hoping the delegates will get so plastered that something really interesting, like not nominating Obama, might happen? Or are they simply greedy local pols trying to siphon a buck off of the big national level event?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The North Carolina story has all kinds of interesting angles. Are the Republicans doing this as professional courtesy for their fellow parasites in the Democrats? Or are they hoping the delegates will get so plastered that something really interesting, like not nominating Obama, might happen? Or are they simply greedy local pols trying to siphon a buck off of the big national level event?</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406740</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t really thought about this before, but now that I do, it seems so obvious.  A benefit of all these videos is not just that cop lies are detected and innocent defendants acquitted, but that people begin to get the idea that cops are not always truthful.  It will be a great day for justice when cops are no longer assumed to be truthful even in the most questionable of circumstances, when lying cops are held accountable, and when police departments fire lying cops, refuse to hire them, and eventually even charge them with perjury.  This is a step in that direction.  It&#039;s somehow a fitting memorial for Rodney King, scumbag that he may have been, beaten up by four worse scumbags hiding behind their shield.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t really thought about this before, but now that I do, it seems so obvious.  A benefit of all these videos is not just that cop lies are detected and innocent defendants acquitted, but that people begin to get the idea that cops are not always truthful.  It will be a great day for justice when cops are no longer assumed to be truthful even in the most questionable of circumstances, when lying cops are held accountable, and when police departments fire lying cops, refuse to hire them, and eventually even charge them with perjury.  This is a step in that direction.  It&#8217;s somehow a fitting memorial for Rodney King, scumbag that he may have been, beaten up by four worse scumbags hiding behind their shield.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406534</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Carreon has made my morning. I doff my hat to you Don Quixote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Carreon has made my morning. I doff my hat to you Don Quixote.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406473</link>
		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;While I am &lt;i&gt;pleased&lt;/i&gt; Stephen Downing...&quot;

Proofread, dammit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While I am <i>pleased</i> Stephen Downing&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Proofread, dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I am Stephen Downing has recognized the futility of the WoD (though he seems more concerned with the cops getting killed than anything else), I wish he had spoken up earlier.

Like before he reached retirement and qualified for his nice cushy police pension.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am Stephen Downing has recognized the futility of the WoD (though he seems more concerned with the cops getting killed than anything else), I wish he had spoken up earlier.</p>
<p>Like before he reached retirement and qualified for his nice cushy police pension.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Ambler</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406340</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Ambler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re sending Carreon an indulgence for being a petulant, amoral, censorious douchebag. Hopefully it&#039;ll help his immortal soul, though we suspect it won&#039;t do much good for him in the here-and-now. Please note, we&#039;re sending this as a gift, no strings attached.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151015106580935&amp;set=a.192871065934.167136.655960934]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re sending Carreon an indulgence for being a petulant, amoral, censorious douchebag. Hopefully it&#8217;ll help his immortal soul, though we suspect it won&#8217;t do much good for him in the here-and-now. Please note, we&#8217;re sending this as a gift, no strings attached.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151015106580935&#038;set=a.192871065934.167136.655960934" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151015106580935&#038;set=a.192871065934.167136.655960934</a></p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406283</link>
		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the Andy Dick story you forgot to add, &quot;The Aristocrats.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Andy Dick story you forgot to add, &#8220;The Aristocrats.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: perlhaqr</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406088</link>
		<dc:creator>perlhaqr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suing Inman, Ok, I guess, maybe I could see that, if you were on a real &quot;respect mah authoritah!&quot; trip.

Suing IndieGoGo is over the top.

Suing the National Wildlife Foundation and the American Cancer Society?  WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suing Inman, Ok, I guess, maybe I could see that, if you were on a real &#8220;respect mah authoritah!&#8221; trip.</p>
<p>Suing IndieGoGo is over the top.</p>
<p>Suing the National Wildlife Foundation and the American Cancer Society?  WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3406060</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Andy Dick

So, you mean, a Tuesday?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Andy Dick</p>
<p>So, you mean, a Tuesday?</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/06/18/morning-links-672/comment-page-1/#comment-3405663</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have sworn an oath upon my father&#039;s grave* that if I see Andy Dick, I will destroy him.



* My father isn&#039;t dead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have sworn an oath upon my father&#8217;s grave* that if I see Andy Dick, I will destroy him.</p>
<p>* My father isn&#8217;t dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had jury duty the other day and the case was about spitting on a cop.

During voir dire, the fact came up that spitting on a cop can carry a ten year in jail penalty. (vs just a fine if you spit on a regular person)

I told them straight out that there was no way I would convict with that kind of disparity and apparently my opinion contaminated a bunch of the other potential jurors because suddenly a bunch of them agreed with me and the lawyers were unable to get enough people for a jury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had jury duty the other day and the case was about spitting on a cop.</p>
<p>During voir dire, the fact came up that spitting on a cop can carry a ten year in jail penalty. (vs just a fine if you spit on a regular person)</p>
<p>I told them straight out that there was no way I would convict with that kind of disparity and apparently my opinion contaminated a bunch of the other potential jurors because suddenly a bunch of them agreed with me and the lawyers were unable to get enough people for a jury.</p>
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		<title>By: EBL</title>
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		<dc:creator>EBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/18/man-on-life-support-after-minneapolis-cop-punches-him-for-talking-loud/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Speak softly...or else.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/18/man-on-life-support-after-minneapolis-cop-punches-him-for-talking-loud/" rel="nofollow">Speak softly&#8230;or else.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Burgers Allday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burgers Allday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link on the LA County story.

At police boards there is a a perception that an allegation of spitting is air tight, even there are videos because the videos are usually too unclear to be sure that there was no spitting.  So you will see winking suggestions that a suspect who was viciously attacked on a police, or jailhouse, vid might have been spitting, which justifies any level of force (to the denizens of police boards anyway).

I have always wondered if these kind of spitting allegations would really work in court.  Didn&#039;t work in this case, happily.

Kudos to the defense atty on that case (even though it sounds like his client might have been guilty of drunk driving and obstruction).

In another spitting case: I think that New Haven case that is now being investigated by the feds (the one where, as reported here at the Adge, a woman got arrested for not turning over her camera to police as &quot;evidence&quot;), the police are making an allegation that the arrestee who got stomped had been purposely spitting blood.  So that may be another spitting allegation case that gets some decent level of scrutiny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link on the LA County story.</p>
<p>At police boards there is a a perception that an allegation of spitting is air tight, even there are videos because the videos are usually too unclear to be sure that there was no spitting.  So you will see winking suggestions that a suspect who was viciously attacked on a police, or jailhouse, vid might have been spitting, which justifies any level of force (to the denizens of police boards anyway).</p>
<p>I have always wondered if these kind of spitting allegations would really work in court.  Didn&#8217;t work in this case, happily.</p>
<p>Kudos to the defense atty on that case (even though it sounds like his client might have been guilty of drunk driving and obstruction).</p>
<p>In another spitting case: I think that New Haven case that is now being investigated by the feds (the one where, as reported here at the Adge, a woman got arrested for not turning over her camera to police as &#8220;evidence&#8221;), the police are making an allegation that the arrestee who got stomped had been purposely spitting blood.  So that may be another spitting allegation case that gets some decent level of scrutiny.</p>
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		<title>By: MattJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allegedly, John Lovitz beat the snot out of Andy Dick.  If Andy Dick spends more than 10 seconds in your house, you have only yourself to blame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allegedly, John Lovitz beat the snot out of Andy Dick.  If Andy Dick spends more than 10 seconds in your house, you have only yourself to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Americans need to form a Andy Dick Task Force. He&#039;s become much more of a menace than faux-boogey men like Al Qaeda.  After all, when&#039;s the last time some towel-head broke into your house, drank your beer, hit on your women and pissed all over the carpet?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans need to form a Andy Dick Task Force. He&#8217;s become much more of a menace than faux-boogey men like Al Qaeda.  After all, when&#8217;s the last time some towel-head broke into your house, drank your beer, hit on your women and pissed all over the carpet?</p>
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