People who show up to deliver goods or services at residences:

Mail Carriers, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Utility company meter readersm, Fed-Ex and UPS Deliverymen, Lawn Maintenance personnel, Lawn Care Personnel, Pool Maintenance, and door-to-door salesmen.

Why aren’t these people shooting the family dog, too?

As for the Police Cheif who went into the back yard to hunt down and kill and non-aggressive dog that is in its own yard… Well, here’s hoping that she isn’t a police cheif for much longer.

Another way to look at the U.S. DOJ BJS deaths statistics is thus:

On average, around 400-500 civilian deaths are reported by police annually while taking custody of the civilians. These are Arrest-Related deaths. This does NOT include jail or prison deaths.

On average, around 50-60 police die violently in the line-of-duty each year at the hands of civilians, mostly from gunshots. The police association likes to inflate this number by including the additional 150+/- traffic deaths that occur while on duty, frequently due to inattentive driving on the part of the police.

So, in summary, it is approximately TEN TIMES (10X) more dangerous for a civilian to have a police encounter as it is for the police to have an encounter with a civilian.

That is a damning statistic about who has the more dangerous avocation: The police (no) or the civilian (yes).

Including 9/11 in any of those statistics is probably misleading, since it was a one-off and arguably more like an act of war than a crime. Murder statistics from the 40s presumably don’t include the sailors who died in the Pearl Harbor attack.

However, in terms of justifiable homicides, how would including 9/11 matter? The passengers apparently fought with the terrorists, and killing all the terrorists on the plane would be justifiable, but probably not killing eevryone else on the plane. (And I don’t think there is any indication that the passengers wanted to crash the plane–probably it crashed while the terrorists were distracted by the fight, or one of the terrorists intentionally crashed it–neither of those would fit with justeifiable homicide.)

Did you notice the disclaimer at the bottom of the “justifiable homicides” data? “Note: The victims of the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks are not included in this analysis.” How would they be confused with “justifiable homicides”?!?!?

What? Arm the dogs?

What the article leaves out is that, in addition to the shooting, there was a massive and disproportional response from the Sheriff’s department post-shooting. I counted ten cruisers outside the place. That seems quite a lot of police presence even for an especially rowdy house party, if one was occurring. An excessive amount, you might say.

Almost as if they were trying to be intimidating.

The Perinton cops were nowhere to be found, sadly. Those guys are almost aggressively reasonable. The County Sheriff’s don’t give a shit.

It still is. It’s basically a justifiable homicide theory, and you have to convince the jury that the person the defendant killed deserved it, which you can do by introducing evidence against the character of the deceased. For example, if you shoot a serial child molester, there’s a decent chance of the jury letting you walk.

-jcr

-jcr

http://police4aqi.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/man-charged-with-disorderly-for-trying-to-be-a-witness-to-police-brutality-policeman-gets-qi/

it is not puppycide but it does relate to a police dog biting the heck out of a regcit. It has implications for those who would record bad policemen.

There is a report on the BJS website about justifiable homicides by both police and civilians. A summary is here. In general, BJS is a source of a vast amount of unfiltered data, which often completely contradicts the media narrative of the week and received wisdom on all sorts of stuff. (For example, justifiable homicides by civilians are a vanishingly small fraction of total homicides, despite the recent media panic about SYG laws–those laws may be good or bad, but the numbers do not support either a panic, or the notion that thanks to SYG, the streets are full of gun-toting crazies looking to blow someone away and get away with it. And sex offenders have lower re-arrest rates than other criminals, and very low rates of re-arrest for the same crime.).

Wherever possible, there is a huge amount of value in finding sources of data like this, instead of the media-filtered picture of reality. There are problems with raw data–there may be reasons it’s hard to interpret for non-experts, the agency or organization producing it may be spinning their report or cooking their data to support an agenda. But in practice, you’re probably atleast as good at figuring that stuff out as the average reporter working on deadline, with the outline of the story he’s supposed to write already pretty clear in his mind.

There used to be a time in Texas where the locals would say “get a rope!” or run a witch like this out of town — now she’ll probably get a nomination for “Police Chief of The Year.”

Considering how unreasonable her use of force was, I think this is one of those cases where anyone who even defenders her needs to be run out of town as well.