We’d also hear a lot more stories about cops killed by dogs after emptying their service weapon into the dog, yet the dog just kept coming…

Peel’s #7 (condensed): “The police are the people and the people are the police, the police being only citizens who are paid to attend full time to duties incumbent on every citizen.”

You believe this shit? Seriously? Police are not “citizens” they are LEOs. Citizens are not LEOs. It is this dichotomy that is the fundamental problem with police. They see themselves as a group apart….even better, superior. That is why they have the badge, the gun, and considerably more power than a mere citizen has.

Really, stop being a badge licking fuck.

Stop being such a badge licking fuck.

The “highly” trained Deputy Barbara Siau was in fear of her life while being charged by Gizmo, a 17.6-pound Pekingese-dachshund mix.

How/why is this woman a deputy?

If pulling a firearm and discharging it is your first recourse to being charged and having your heels nipped by a 17 lbs furball then you’re in the wrong line of work.

Deputy Siau’s skill set upon cursory examination would work quite nicely in a slaughter house not over at the Child Support Enforcement division.

I would hate to be around when the children get out of line and Deputy Siau on the job.

It’s the Bad Guys orders to their victims: “Snitches get stitches”. Guess whose side you seem to be on?

Try not to simplify the responses of a group of people developed to manage decades of oppression at the hands of the police/state. Poor and minority groups developed the “snitches get stitches” and “DON’T talk to police” (and others) for good reasons. For one thing, cops would work to get false confessions via a “prisoner’s dilemma” from completely innocent people. To reduce it to “orders from the bad guys” is ignorant. Community activists have had to resort to not talking to the police because the police ARE THE BAD GUYS! What else would you call a gang bent on shooting first, protecting their own at all costs, and locking up anyone they can in order to close a case?

The rest of your post is just badge-licking long dismissed on this board.

It’s the Bad Guys orders…

And that, in a nutshell, is what’s wrong with your argument. You’ve seem to be able to tell the difference b/w the good guys and the bad guys, apparently due to nothing other than who has a badge and who doesn’t.

YOU created this good/bad divide for yourself. It’s clear that most of the rest of us don’t feel as strongly about the goodnees of the men in blue just by virtue of the fact that they’re men in blue. And, if you’re reading this site with any regularity (which I don’t think is the case), you’d realize the men in blue are are NOT THE GOOD GUYS. There just guys, mostly following orders.

Yes. I get it, thank you very much. And that’s fucked.

It’s the Bad Guys orders to their victims: “Snitches get stitches”. Guess whose side you seem to be on?

There’s the five boxes: soap box, ballot box, jury box, witness box, cartridge box.

Peel’s #7 (condensed): “The police are the people and the people are the police, the police being only citizens who are paid to attend full time to duties incumbent on every citizen.”

Despite the risks, and I grant they are rapidly getting more severe, I still consider it my duty to, yes, “assist the police with their inquiries”, exercising all due caution and informed good sense. I have a duty to report crimes, real crimes, the kind that see thugs hurt innocent people. Remember those? Not all crimes are victimless. I will of course be especially willing to report crimes against me and mine.

Go ahead, isolate yourself. Antagonize people who do in fact put themselves in harm’s way to help people like you. Slam the door in their faces, or just refuse to answer the knock. Don’t report thefts, or even assaults. Hide in your fortress. Harden their suspicions. Reinforce their hostility.

I’m sure the cops will still respond cheerfully when you call demanding their help because some burglar killed your dog before ransacking your home, and you pay their salaries, dammit!

I know there’s bad cops out there, just like cops know there are bad citizens out there.

I also know there are good cops out there, I’ve met them, and not always on friendly terms. Courtesy and respect go a long, long way.

“Be polite. Be professional. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.” That sounds like a good plan to me.

But cowering alone, isolated, blustering at every threat, real or imagined?

No thank you.

Family dog shot within seconds of the cop’s arrival.

(Not Cisco the dog in Austin, either)

http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-family-dog-shot-and-killed-after-fort-worth-poice-officer-responds-to-the-wrong-address-20120527,0,2162589.story

And that was a _very_ well-trained military!

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Couple-Claims-Officer-Shot-Their-Dog-154918235.html

Family says Fort Worth police officer showed up to wrong house.
Sunday, May 27, 2012 | Updated 10:06 PM CDT

Couple Claims Officer Shot Their Dog

Mark and Cindy Boling want answers after their dog “Lily Girl” was shot by a Fort Worth Police Officer over the weekend.

A Fort Worth couple wants a police officer punished for shooting their dog.

On Saturday, dispatchers sent the officer to the 4900 block of Norma Street to investigate copper thefts. But an officer showed up at Mark and Cindy Boling’s house at the 4700 block of Norma Street as they unloaded groceries outside their home.

The couple said the officer shot the dog when it came out of the garage. The officer said it lunged at him. The couple said the animal was just being friendly.

Unless its avgerage joe or jane citizen, then its this:

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2012/05/estacada_man_gets_jail_time_fo.html

“”He did not want to kill that dog,” said Pat Birmingham, Nagle’s attorney. “He was terrified of that dog.” Nagle tried to deal with the problem but got no help from the dog’s owner or authorities, Birmingham said. Circuit Judge Susie L. Norby had no sympathy for Nagle and sentenced him to 30 days in jail and two years supervised probation for the misdemeanors. Prosecutor Matt Semritc had asked for 20 days in jail and a year of bench probation.

“I’m shocked,” Norby said. “No one goes out with a full clip (in a gun) to garden unless they intend to use it.”

Rapidly firing bullets in a residential neighborhood where children are play is outrageous, Norby said.

“What you did on this day would shock the consciousness” of any community, she said. “It makes me question your mental health.” ”

Do you think a cop would be fined/fired let alone prosecuted if they shot a dog near some kids? Oh, but they’re trained to be safe with guns… This Barbie doll in a pig uniform can’t even just kick the little mutt in the head.

You still don’t get it. Don’t talk to police means DON’T TALK TO POLICE.