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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Burgers Allday</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/05/19/billy-club-to-the-fucking-skull/comment-page-1/#comment-3265381</link>
		<dc:creator>Burgers Allday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@12:

Big ups on that.  Same for me.  The 2d. case where she sided with the off duty cop who would not let the trucker use the telephone to report his accident was a real scary decision to me.  But she hasn&#039;t been like that on SCOTUS so far.]]></description>
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<p>Big ups on that.  Same for me.  The 2d. case where she sided with the off duty cop who would not let the trucker use the telephone to report his accident was a real scary decision to me.  But she hasn&#8217;t been like that on SCOTUS so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/05/19/billy-club-to-the-fucking-skull/comment-page-1/#comment-3264426</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 19:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was not aware turning around in a private drive was against the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not aware turning around in a private drive was against the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/05/19/billy-club-to-the-fucking-skull/comment-page-1/#comment-3260789</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 01:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hindsight is after the fact, you have nothing to apologize for because it was an obvious inference from her history. The &quot;hindsight&quot; is for those who claim they saw it when they didn&#039;t and won&#039;t admit it, acting like they never said anything different.

I&#039;m surprised that you didn&#039;t go all over me for Dred Scott. I applaud you if you recognized the argument, however distasteful. Trust me, I&#039;ve just used mouthwash to rid the taste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hindsight is after the fact, you have nothing to apologize for because it was an obvious inference from her history. The &#8220;hindsight&#8221; is for those who claim they saw it when they didn&#8217;t and won&#8217;t admit it, acting like they never said anything different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that you didn&#8217;t go all over me for Dred Scott. I applaud you if you recognized the argument, however distasteful. Trust me, I&#8217;ve just used mouthwash to rid the taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;The hindsight portion was not directed at you.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, I freely admit I was wrong about Sotomayor. And I&#039;m relieved that she has proven me wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The hindsight portion was not directed at you.</em></p>
<p>Oh, I freely admit I was wrong about Sotomayor. And I&#8217;m relieved that she has proven me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 00:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley, 

The hindsight portion was not directed at you. I was thinking of columnists who said they knew all along, yet their early columns show nothing of the sort. I&#039;ve lived through Warren, Burger, Rehnquist, and Roberts. I keep hoping for a true civil liberties court following the Constitution and originalist thought (that means not just the Founding Fathers but the thought and justification for every Amendment following; the 13th, 14th, and 15th Reconstruction Amendments a good example because each amends the previous.

Further, Dred Scott was probably right, not morally by any means, but because nothing had been done Constitutionally to end that execrable institution of slavery; Plessy v Ferguson was judicial activism as there is nothing in the Constitution that addresses or justifies &quot;Separate but Equal&quot; and Brown v Education finally set it right, thus not judicial activism because after the 14th no state had the right to &quot;Separate but Equal&quot; given the results. Kelo under Roberts was a whole new low of attacking our basic rights. From a conservative court that should understand the underpinnings of rights and property (&quot;asset forfeiture&quot; anyone as not punishing the holder of the assets? Only SCOTUS could count the angels differently.).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley, </p>
<p>The hindsight portion was not directed at you. I was thinking of columnists who said they knew all along, yet their early columns show nothing of the sort. I&#8217;ve lived through Warren, Burger, Rehnquist, and Roberts. I keep hoping for a true civil liberties court following the Constitution and originalist thought (that means not just the Founding Fathers but the thought and justification for every Amendment following; the 13th, 14th, and 15th Reconstruction Amendments a good example because each amends the previous.</p>
<p>Further, Dred Scott was probably right, not morally by any means, but because nothing had been done Constitutionally to end that execrable institution of slavery; Plessy v Ferguson was judicial activism as there is nothing in the Constitution that addresses or justifies &#8220;Separate but Equal&#8221; and Brown v Education finally set it right, thus not judicial activism because after the 14th no state had the right to &#8220;Separate but Equal&#8221; given the results. Kelo under Roberts was a whole new low of attacking our basic rights. From a conservative court that should understand the underpinnings of rights and property (&#8220;asset forfeiture&#8221; anyone as not punishing the holder of the assets? Only SCOTUS could count the angels differently.).</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 00:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley,

I&#039;m a Republican, and I agree wholeheartedly that Obama&#039;s admin has been much better in this area than Bush. Bush&#039;s AG should have gone after Arpaio, there was enough there before Obama&#039;s inauguration and I was surprised it took Obama&#039;s admin so long.

As for SCOTUS, you know that there is no predicting where Presidential appointments will actually go once on the bench. Sotomayer was a shoe-in for &quot;boot-licker&quot;, being a driven prosecutor, yet she has been surprising. The title &quot;Supreme Court Justice&quot; changes people in unforeseen ways, ignoring those who use hindsight to justify themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Republican, and I agree wholeheartedly that Obama&#8217;s admin has been much better in this area than Bush. Bush&#8217;s AG should have gone after Arpaio, there was enough there before Obama&#8217;s inauguration and I was surprised it took Obama&#8217;s admin so long.</p>
<p>As for SCOTUS, you know that there is no predicting where Presidential appointments will actually go once on the bench. Sotomayer was a shoe-in for &#8220;boot-licker&#8221;, being a driven prosecutor, yet she has been surprising. The title &#8220;Supreme Court Justice&#8221; changes people in unforeseen ways, ignoring those who use hindsight to justify themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 23:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;What do you-all think?&lt;/em&gt;

I think the federal government has very little control or influence over local police departments. 

And to the extent that it does--through federal civil rights investigations--Obama has been far more aggressive than Bush was.

Bush&#039;s Supreme Court appointees have also been far more deferential to law enforcement than Obama&#039;s have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What do you-all think?</em></p>
<p>I think the federal government has very little control or influence over local police departments. </p>
<p>And to the extent that it does&#8211;through federal civil rights investigations&#8211;Obama has been far more aggressive than Bush was.</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s Supreme Court appointees have also been far more deferential to law enforcement than Obama&#8217;s have.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 23:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is actually pretty simple: if you&#039;re taught threats and intimidation are ways of controlling people, you&#039;ll use them in all aspects of your life when needed to control people; if you&#039;re taught violence is the best solution to keep yourself safe, your safety being paramount over all others&#039; safety, or to control people, you&#039;ll use violence in all aspects of your life as the best solution to keep yourself safe or control people; if you are taught that lies are acceptable to attain a goal, you&#039;ll attain your goals in all aspects of your life by lying; if you&#039;re taught that your authority is paramount, then anyone challenging your authority must experience your threats, intimidation, violence, and lies until they submit or you extract punishment. This is kindergarten stuff yet adults still seem to not understand these basic principles.

It may take time to overcome the basic human decency taught early, and some may successfully resist, but eventually too many will succumb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually pretty simple: if you&#8217;re taught threats and intimidation are ways of controlling people, you&#8217;ll use them in all aspects of your life when needed to control people; if you&#8217;re taught violence is the best solution to keep yourself safe, your safety being paramount over all others&#8217; safety, or to control people, you&#8217;ll use violence in all aspects of your life as the best solution to keep yourself safe or control people; if you are taught that lies are acceptable to attain a goal, you&#8217;ll attain your goals in all aspects of your life by lying; if you&#8217;re taught that your authority is paramount, then anyone challenging your authority must experience your threats, intimidation, violence, and lies until they submit or you extract punishment. This is kindergarten stuff yet adults still seem to not understand these basic principles.</p>
<p>It may take time to overcome the basic human decency taught early, and some may successfully resist, but eventually too many will succumb.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S.

Yes, I remember the barbarity of the Democrat Convention of &#039;08. I&#039;m inclined to blame that on the Democrats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.</p>
<p>Yes, I remember the barbarity of the Democrat Convention of &#8217;08. I&#8217;m inclined to blame that on the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 22:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, serious question. I suspect I&#039;m projecting my personal bias on this; I despise Obama and didn&#039;t feel anything like that strongly about Bush.

Does it seem to anyone else that there have been more of these incidents, and they have been more egregious, under Obama than under Bush. I recall a great deal of anti-Bush hysteria that - it seemed to me - didn&#039;t bear a lot of examination when it came to barbarism toward protesters. But as I say, I despise Obama.

What do you-all think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, serious question. I suspect I&#8217;m projecting my personal bias on this; I despise Obama and didn&#8217;t feel anything like that strongly about Bush.</p>
<p>Does it seem to anyone else that there have been more of these incidents, and they have been more egregious, under Obama than under Bush. I recall a great deal of anti-Bush hysteria that &#8211; it seemed to me &#8211; didn&#8217;t bear a lot of examination when it came to barbarism toward protesters. But as I say, I despise Obama.</p>
<p>What do you-all think?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 21:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heroes, every one!  Just ask the good people down at the police union.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroes, every one!  Just ask the good people down at the police union.</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleU</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubleU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one guy was from Oakland Park Florida, make sure he stays locked up in Chicago for a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one guy was from Oakland Park Florida, make sure he stays locked up in Chicago for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Judas Peckerwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judas Peckerwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And still, most Americans believe that foreign terrorists are the biggest threat to our lives and liberty than &quot;our&quot; government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And still, most Americans believe that foreign terrorists are the biggest threat to our lives and liberty than &#8220;our&#8221; government.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 17:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“OK, now we’ll beat your white ass,” 
Well, in IL that can get you an assault charge (assault=a credible threat of bodily harm).  Rojo is correct; thug life indeed. Did CPD bring out former Officer Jerome Finnegan for the ride. Or is he still in prison.  When it comes to corrupt CPD goons I lose track. 

Pay no attention America, just keep closing your eyes and saying &quot;it&#039;s a free country, it can&#039;t happen here!&quot;

P.S.  Yay Mayor Rahm!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“OK, now we’ll beat your white ass,”<br />
Well, in IL that can get you an assault charge (assault=a credible threat of bodily harm).  Rojo is correct; thug life indeed. Did CPD bring out former Officer Jerome Finnegan for the ride. Or is he still in prison.  When it comes to corrupt CPD goons I lose track. </p>
<p>Pay no attention America, just keep closing your eyes and saying &#8220;it&#8217;s a free country, it can&#8217;t happen here!&#8221;</p>
<p>P.S.  Yay Mayor Rahm!</p>
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		<title>By: Rojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, thug life. This reminds me of the attitude of someone I used to think of as &quot;the cop-in-law,&quot; a Seattle cop who was dating the sister of my girlfriend. Upon learning that I was one of the Seattle WTO protesters back in 1999, he would taunt me with the violence meted out by the Seattle PD at that event and would mockingly promise that if it came to it again, he would not beat me, he would beat my friends while his friends beat me. Needless to say, family dinners were cheery affairs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, thug life. This reminds me of the attitude of someone I used to think of as &#8220;the cop-in-law,&#8221; a Seattle cop who was dating the sister of my girlfriend. Upon learning that I was one of the Seattle WTO protesters back in 1999, he would taunt me with the violence meted out by the Seattle PD at that event and would mockingly promise that if it came to it again, he would not beat me, he would beat my friends while his friends beat me. Needless to say, family dinners were cheery affairs.</p>
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