Afternoon Links

Tuesday, May 1st, 2012

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29 Responses to “Afternoon Links”

  1. #1 |  omar | 

    Did Chief Bruce Gates prematurely change his uniform rank before his official promotion to General of the Armies?

  2. #2 |  Alex | 

    “Dr. Campbell says he’s not aware of any severe injuries in the Pittsburgh region.”

    I’m shocked!

  3. #3 |  dave smith | 

    Wait…I thought social media was to blame? So we have an epidemic in Philly and no cases in Pitt? Do people think about what they write?

  4. #4 |  H. Rearden | 

    @2&3 – It’s even worse. There is no epidemic in Philly. Despite the shocking headline from the Phoenixville paper: Risky “Salt and Ice” Challenge Burns Phoenixville Students , there were no reports of Phoenixville students actually burning themselves. Warning letters were sent to the parents because students were talking about what some idiot posted on youtube.

  5. #5 |  Marty | 

    all the ER nurses and docs I know would make fun of any idiot who showed up to the er after burning himself with the salt/ice trick.

  6. #6 |  Aresen | 

    Re: Headline of the Day.

    I think that person is really, really unclear on the concept. :))))

  7. #7 |  Jack Dempsey | 

    It’s good to see that crime rates are so low that the only thing to go after are people with a potty mouth. Who needs the 1st amendment anyway?

  8. #8 |  marco73 | 

    re: the salt and ice story.
    Just another panic story for the gullible.
    Oh, wait, it’s May, so it’s the start of a TV ratings month. The local news affiliates will do anything for ratings this month.
    Watch for more stupid stories. Somehow they need to tie a sex angle in here: maybe teenage cheerleaders drunk from vodka tampons are having rainbow parties with guys who are drunk from hand sanitizer alcohol, with maybe some dangerous driving while texting thrown in, and everyone ends up with third degree salt and ice burns. Throw in some pompous expert, and this story has local Emmy written all over it.

  9. #9 |  Doubleu | 

    I’m fortunate that I’m in the emergency department and sometimes get to see these things early.

    Wait… wha? You are fortunate to see these things?

  10. #10 |  John Jenkins | 

    I want to know what the chemical reaction is they think occurs when mixing NaCl and H2O.

  11. #11 |  Steven | 

    I would like to know who described frostbite as a burn.

  12. #12 |  EH | 

    That salt-and-ice story is a total hoax. You can tell because there’s no laundry detergent involved.

  13. #13 |  croaker | 

    Fatal error on the part of the cops not having the affidavit for the search warrant sealed. Which cop dropped the ball?

  14. #14 |  phillyjim | 

    #10 – Yeah, seems to me the only thing that would happen is the ice would melt faster. Anybody who holds an icecube on their arm until frostbite sets in deserves at least a couple of days of pain.

  15. #15 |  CyniCAl | 

    •The family of William Cooper, the 69-year-old Hampton, Virginia man killed in a drug raid earlier this year, has filed a lawsuit against the officers who conducted the raid.

    Coming next week … a story about police harassment of the family of William Cooper.

  16. #16 |  Steven | 

    well the salt would dissolve in the water decreasing the freezing point, that would make it effectively colder than just the ice itself.

  17. #17 |  Bill | 

    I’m just glad that we’re warning people about the salt and ice thing so we don’t have all those third degree burns from frozen margaritas like last Cinco De Mayo…

  18. #18 |  Cynical in New York | 

    A little OT but does any libertarian still have any faith in the tea party at this point? Especially after this?

  19. #19 |  Dana Gower | 

    Speaking of panicking:

    Wasn’t this already discussed somewhere?

  20. #20 |  Bob | 

    It’s time to panic again.

    LOL! I thought he was pouring Lye on his arm, Fight Club style. Salt and Ice cubes? Today’s kids need to toughen up!

  21. #21 |  StrangeOne | 

    Steven it wouldn’t make the water colder than the ice. It would allow the salt water to go below freezing, but its temperature would still be somewhere between freezing and the temperature of the ice. Since fluid water is a better thermal conductor than solid water it is more effective at leaching heat, that’s why survival time for people that fall in arctic waters is so short.

    Just an ice cube and some table salt though? It would appear to be a minor bruise at a worst case scenario. Unless you just douse your whole arm into a bucket of icy salt water and leave it there for 20 minutes, all while bearing through the considerable pain, you’re not getting injured by this.

    There is some hypothetical wiggle room here, but the story is overblown idiocy. I’m fairly certain that more kids found out about the whole thing from the letter the school sent than knew about it to begin with. Kind of like how the DARE program did just about everything it could to teach kids what the popular drugs were and how they were used.

  22. #22 |  Aresen | 

    Re: Salt and Ice

    Adding salt to ice lowers the melting point.

    The problem is not a chemical reaction but the latent heat of fusion that is required to melt the ice. The energy to complete the transition has to come from somewhere. Air is a very poor heat reservoir while the body, with it’s high water content, is a relatively good one.

    So, putting the salt and ice together means that the melting occurs much faster and the body cannot keep up with the heat being drawn out. This results in frostbite. At 80 calories per gram, that is the same energy required to heat liquid water from 32 degrees to 176 degrees.

  23. #23 |  croaker | 

    This was a basic chemistry experiment when I was in the 8th grade. Managed to get my water down to -20C. This is how the old ice cream makers worked.

  24. #24 |  Kolohe | 

    The salt will also act as an insulator at first, allowing longer overall contact between the heat sink (the cold cube) and the epidermis.

  25. #25 |  rob | 

    Headline Of The Day dude is a fan of revenge of the nerds

  26. #26 |  Steven | 

    @Strangeone, I am aware of that, my point was that the water would be as cold as the ice rather than just 0C

  27. #27 |  Personanongrata | 

    •It’s time to panic again.

    Todays kids are such wimps.

    Hell, back in the day when sheep were scared, men were steel and ships were wood we would have put the salt and ice on our genitalia cursed aloud like drunken sailors and have been arrested in po-dunk (Middleboro)Massachusetts.

    Living in America.

  28. #28 |  Dave Trowbridge | 

    “Pittsburgh Doctor Explains Dangerous Dare”

    Reminded me of these hilarious Amazon reviews:

  29. #29 |  EBL | 

    OMG! That is absolutely chilling!