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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Convicted defendants left uninformed of forensic flaws found by Justice Dept.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#62 &#124;  Helmut O&#039; Hooligan &#124;  &quot;...and saw a story about how Republicans in congress are trying to cut food stamp programs. Nothing unusual there either. Same old, same old.&quot;

Unexpected charity can sometimes benefit giver and recipient, but expectations of charity are **HIGHLY TOXIC**.  The government has spent decades encouraging a substantial segment of society to become OPM addicts (&quot;Other People&#039;s Money).  Weaning all those people from the government teat isn&#039;t going to be easy or pleasant, but OPM addiction is horribly destructive to the recipients of &quot;government largesse&quot;; those who want to continue to enable people&#039;s addictions are doing the addicts no favors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#62 |  Helmut O&#8217; Hooligan |  &#8220;&#8230;and saw a story about how Republicans in congress are trying to cut food stamp programs. Nothing unusual there either. Same old, same old.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unexpected charity can sometimes benefit giver and recipient, but expectations of charity are **HIGHLY TOXIC**.  The government has spent decades encouraging a substantial segment of society to become OPM addicts (&#8220;Other People&#8217;s Money).  Weaning all those people from the government teat isn&#8217;t going to be easy or pleasant, but OPM addiction is horribly destructive to the recipients of &#8220;government largesse&#8221;; those who want to continue to enable people&#8217;s addictions are doing the addicts no favors.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#17 Marty: &quot;this makes tax day even better. damn.&quot;

Good point.  This is one of those depressing &quot;your tax dollars at work&quot; stories.

Today in my local paper, I saw to interesting &quot;Red Team, Blue Team&quot; stories.  In the first, a protest for tax fairness was being covered.  The reporter said that the crowd was chanting &quot;tax the rich, tax the rich.&quot;  Boring.  I then flipped the page and saw a story about how Republicans in congress are trying to cut food stamp programs.  Nothing unusual there either.  Same old, same old.

Team Red and Team Blue need to read more stories about the massive waste--in lives and public funds--that is being promoted by the prison-industrial complex and the war on drugs.  You want to save money?   You want to lowere your taxes?  Well we could save a whole lot of money by ending the war on drugs and the obsession with incarceration.  Oh, and we could also stop intervening in the affairs of other countries.  

But Team Red and Team Blue would rather just pick on rich people and welfare recepients.  Why?  I guess its just the way we&#039;ve always done it &#039;round here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 Marty: &#8220;this makes tax day even better. damn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point.  This is one of those depressing &#8220;your tax dollars at work&#8221; stories.</p>
<p>Today in my local paper, I saw to interesting &#8220;Red Team, Blue Team&#8221; stories.  In the first, a protest for tax fairness was being covered.  The reporter said that the crowd was chanting &#8220;tax the rich, tax the rich.&#8221;  Boring.  I then flipped the page and saw a story about how Republicans in congress are trying to cut food stamp programs.  Nothing unusual there either.  Same old, same old.</p>
<p>Team Red and Team Blue need to read more stories about the massive waste&#8211;in lives and public funds&#8211;that is being promoted by the prison-industrial complex and the war on drugs.  You want to save money?   You want to lowere your taxes?  Well we could save a whole lot of money by ending the war on drugs and the obsession with incarceration.  Oh, and we could also stop intervening in the affairs of other countries.  </p>
<p>But Team Red and Team Blue would rather just pick on rich people and welfare recepients.  Why?  I guess its just the way we&#8217;ve always done it &#8217;round here.</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>PersonFromPorlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But I can’t really even think of what poorly-structured incentive would have prevented the members of this task force from doing more than the bare minimum that was required of them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simple: &quot;Do nothing and you&#039;ll do nothing wrong.&quot;

Also: &quot;One &#039;dumbshit&#039; wipes out 14,000 &#039;attaboys&#039;.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I can’t really even think of what poorly-structured incentive would have prevented the members of this task force from doing more than the bare minimum that was required of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Simple: &#8220;Do nothing and you&#8217;ll do nothing wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also: &#8220;One &#8216;dumbshit&#8217; wipes out 14,000 &#8216;attaboys&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PersonFromPorlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>PersonFromPorlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But I can’t really even think of what poorly-structured incentive would have prevented the members of this task force from doing more than the bare minimum that was required of them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simple: &quot;Do nothing and you&#039;ll do nothing wrong.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I can’t really even think of what poorly-structured incentive would have prevented the members of this task force from doing more than the bare minimum that was required of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Simple: &#8220;Do nothing and you&#8217;ll do nothing wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lowly2L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowly2L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was under the impression that prosecutors have a continuing duty to disclose Brady material that extends, essentially, in perpetuity.  Not only does caselaw support this but here is the the relevant ABA ethics rule (3.8):

(g) When a prosecutor knows of new, credible and material evidence creating a reasonable likelihood that a convicted defendant did not commit an offense of which the defendant was convicted, the prosecutor shall:

(1) promptly disclose that evidence to an appropriate court or authority, and

(2) if the conviction was obtained in the prosecutor’s jurisdiction,

(i) promptly disclose that evidence to the defendant unless a court authorizes delay, and

(ii) undertake further investigation, or make reasonable efforts to cause an investigation, to determine whether the defendant was convicted of an offense that the defendant did not commit.

Presumably, most states have adopted a similar rule.  For those SA&#039;s who were informed of this info and chose not to disclose, they should be looking at a serious bar complaint.  However, I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting for them to be disciplined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that prosecutors have a continuing duty to disclose Brady material that extends, essentially, in perpetuity.  Not only does caselaw support this but here is the the relevant ABA ethics rule (3.8):</p>
<p>(g) When a prosecutor knows of new, credible and material evidence creating a reasonable likelihood that a convicted defendant did not commit an offense of which the defendant was convicted, the prosecutor shall:</p>
<p>(1) promptly disclose that evidence to an appropriate court or authority, and</p>
<p>(2) if the conviction was obtained in the prosecutor’s jurisdiction,</p>
<p>(i) promptly disclose that evidence to the defendant unless a court authorizes delay, and</p>
<p>(ii) undertake further investigation, or make reasonable efforts to cause an investigation, to determine whether the defendant was convicted of an offense that the defendant did not commit.</p>
<p>Presumably, most states have adopted a similar rule.  For those SA&#8217;s who were informed of this info and chose not to disclose, they should be looking at a serious bar complaint.  However, I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting for them to be disciplined.</p>
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		<title>By: Fascist Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fascist Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/doj-review-of-flawed-fbi-forensics-processes-lacked-transparency/2012/04/17/gIQAFegIPT_story.html

Frederic Whitehurst, a chemist and lawyer who worked in the FBI’s crime lab, testified that he was told by his superiors to ignore findings that did not support the prosecution’s theory of the bombing.

“There was a great deal of pressure put upon me to bias my interpretation,” Whitehurst said in U.S. District Court in New York in 1995.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/doj-review-of-flawed-fbi-forensics-processes-lacked-transparency/2012/04/17/gIQAFegIPT_story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/doj-review-of-flawed-fbi-forensics-processes-lacked-transparency/2012/04/17/gIQAFegIPT_story.html</a></p>
<p>Frederic Whitehurst, a chemist and lawyer who worked in the FBI’s crime lab, testified that he was told by his superiors to ignore findings that did not support the prosecution’s theory of the bombing.</p>
<p>“There was a great deal of pressure put upon me to bias my interpretation,” Whitehurst said in U.S. District Court in New York in 1995.</p>
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		<title>By: Screwed over military whistleblower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Screwed over military whistleblower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To 35-year Lawyer. U said, &quot;The Manual for Courts Martial, Rule 701, provides for two-way 100% information exchange. The sky has not fallen on Military Justice.&quot;. I guess you never heard of any abuses by military police. I guess you never heard of junior JAG&#039;s bowing before the power and authority of senior officer commanders. And I suppose you never in your 35-year career ever witnessed or personally experienced the full blown effect of &quot;undue command influence&quot;. Didn&#039;t you know since 2003, Navy CO&#039;s have been granted &quot;wide latitude&quot; in their exercise of military justice? Sure, 100% information exchange, cognitive dissonance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 35-year Lawyer. U said, &#8220;The Manual for Courts Martial, Rule 701, provides for two-way 100% information exchange. The sky has not fallen on Military Justice.&#8221;. I guess you never heard of any abuses by military police. I guess you never heard of junior JAG&#8217;s bowing before the power and authority of senior officer commanders. And I suppose you never in your 35-year career ever witnessed or personally experienced the full blown effect of &#8220;undue command influence&#8221;. Didn&#8217;t you know since 2003, Navy CO&#8217;s have been granted &#8220;wide latitude&#8221; in their exercise of military justice? Sure, 100% information exchange, cognitive dissonance</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
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		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I can’t really even think of what poorly-structured incentive would have prevented the members of this task force from doing more than the bare minimum that was required of them. &quot; -- RB

Some quick brainstorming: apathy, groupthink, more apathy, viewing the convicted as &quot;the other,&quot; pressure from superiors to remain quiet, more groupthink, crimethink, desire to not rock the boat, satisfaction with minimal acceptable effort instilled by the group culture, feelings of helplessness when faced with the bureaucracy, fear of retribution for whistleblowing and a whole lot more apathy, apathy apathy.

Plenty of incentives there.  Maybe not the monetary sort, unless you count preserving one&#039;s [pathetic, evil] career as monetary, and I&#039;m sure the average bureaucrat thinks exactly that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t really even think of what poorly-structured incentive would have prevented the members of this task force from doing more than the bare minimum that was required of them. &#8221; &#8212; RB</p>
<p>Some quick brainstorming: apathy, groupthink, more apathy, viewing the convicted as &#8220;the other,&#8221; pressure from superiors to remain quiet, more groupthink, crimethink, desire to not rock the boat, satisfaction with minimal acceptable effort instilled by the group culture, feelings of helplessness when faced with the bureaucracy, fear of retribution for whistleblowing and a whole lot more apathy, apathy apathy.</p>
<p>Plenty of incentives there.  Maybe not the monetary sort, unless you count preserving one&#8217;s [pathetic, evil] career as monetary, and I&#8217;m sure the average bureaucrat thinks exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I emailed a few newspapers and smaller weeklies, and was basically told, &#039;unless there is a Colorado connection this story won&#039;t ever be reported on here.&#039;.

Any way to get more info on this stuff?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I emailed a few newspapers and smaller weeklies, and was basically told, &#8216;unless there is a Colorado connection this story won&#8217;t ever be reported on here.&#8217;.</p>
<p>Any way to get more info on this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[53..Yeah, I tell parents, strangers, students the &quot;Land of the Free&quot; has 2.3 million people locked up.  All I get is this blank stare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>53..Yeah, I tell parents, strangers, students the &#8220;Land of the Free&#8221; has 2.3 million people locked up.  All I get is this blank stare.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I watched the Frontline report on forensics last night.  It is a pretty good watch - particularly for the intended audience.  They use the Kaylee Anthony case as a hook in the second half of the show - which might draw in a few viewers.  

My wife loves &quot;CSI&quot; type things, so I was telling her about the Hayne/West part of the story this morning.  She wondered why this isn&#039;t a national news story - how it doesn&#039;t make the &quot;CBS Evening News&quot;.... then proceeded to check out of the conversation before I could tell her about the video of West and the dental mold.    Unfortunately most people - even people who are interested and receptive to the topic - most people are just not able to hold on for a difficult and complicated argument.  They want something that is feel-good, or it has to fit neatly into a 60 second package.  

I was chatting with some parents at the kids&#039; baseball game last night.  A fairly tea-party-ish group was discussing the excesses of local and state government.  They got off onto the police pay (higher than you&#039;d believe, they said), but universally believed they were doing a dangerous job and we need more SWAT teams.  They were firmly convinced that &quot;a hundred police are killed in the line of duty just in Miami every year&quot;.   I tried to point out that not even a hundred are shot and killed every year nation wide, but they quit listening.  I was the kook who thinks that cops should&#039;t shoot child molesters and drug dealers on sight (&#039;cause if they don&#039;t shoot them, the cops won&#039;t go home to their families).   Forget bringing up the fact that a few hundred unarmed citizens are killed by police every year during arrest... they checked out long before that point.  Any nutter who thinks that the police are not being gunned down every day is to be avoided.  

I mourn my lack of rhetorical skills - I had a somewhat receptive audience and I couldn&#039;t move them off of the idea that hundreds of police are being slaughtered in our city, and they almost never shoot the wrong people.  That should have been a slam-dunk.  But even with FBI statistics at hand, all I was able to elicit was &quot;you can find a website that will spin any statistic any way you want&quot;.  In fact, having actual facts at hand was something of a disadvantage.  People don&#039;t like having opinion confronted with fact, so they do the mental gymnastics of moving your &quot;fact&quot; into the realm of &quot;opinion&quot; and then invalidate the facts.  If anything they dug in to their position even more tenaciously when I pulled out FBI police fatality statistics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the Frontline report on forensics last night.  It is a pretty good watch &#8211; particularly for the intended audience.  They use the Kaylee Anthony case as a hook in the second half of the show &#8211; which might draw in a few viewers.  </p>
<p>My wife loves &#8220;CSI&#8221; type things, so I was telling her about the Hayne/West part of the story this morning.  She wondered why this isn&#8217;t a national news story &#8211; how it doesn&#8217;t make the &#8220;CBS Evening News&#8221;&#8230;. then proceeded to check out of the conversation before I could tell her about the video of West and the dental mold.    Unfortunately most people &#8211; even people who are interested and receptive to the topic &#8211; most people are just not able to hold on for a difficult and complicated argument.  They want something that is feel-good, or it has to fit neatly into a 60 second package.  </p>
<p>I was chatting with some parents at the kids&#8217; baseball game last night.  A fairly tea-party-ish group was discussing the excesses of local and state government.  They got off onto the police pay (higher than you&#8217;d believe, they said), but universally believed they were doing a dangerous job and we need more SWAT teams.  They were firmly convinced that &#8220;a hundred police are killed in the line of duty just in Miami every year&#8221;.   I tried to point out that not even a hundred are shot and killed every year nation wide, but they quit listening.  I was the kook who thinks that cops should&#8217;t shoot child molesters and drug dealers on sight (&#8217;cause if they don&#8217;t shoot them, the cops won&#8217;t go home to their families).   Forget bringing up the fact that a few hundred unarmed citizens are killed by police every year during arrest&#8230; they checked out long before that point.  Any nutter who thinks that the police are not being gunned down every day is to be avoided.  </p>
<p>I mourn my lack of rhetorical skills &#8211; I had a somewhat receptive audience and I couldn&#8217;t move them off of the idea that hundreds of police are being slaughtered in our city, and they almost never shoot the wrong people.  That should have been a slam-dunk.  But even with FBI statistics at hand, all I was able to elicit was &#8220;you can find a website that will spin any statistic any way you want&#8221;.  In fact, having actual facts at hand was something of a disadvantage.  People don&#8217;t like having opinion confronted with fact, so they do the mental gymnastics of moving your &#8220;fact&#8221; into the realm of &#8220;opinion&#8221; and then invalidate the facts.  If anything they dug in to their position even more tenaciously when I pulled out FBI police fatality statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me try a closed italics tag and see if that works. 

&lt;/i&gt;

Did it work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me try a closed italics tag and see if that works. </p>
<p>Did it work?</p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone watch Frontline last night? It was a pretty good take down of forensics &quot;experts&quot;.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/real-csi/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone watch Frontline last night? It was a pretty good take down of forensics &#8220;experts&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/real-csi/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/real-csi/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yizmo Gizmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yizmo Gizmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The US Government in all its agencies looks more and more like Sodom and Gomorrah each day.&quot;

Yeah, I noticed. Corrupt, induglent and reckless in direct proportion to 
how bossy and nosy they get toward us.... What crazy times.
Every day a new alphabet soup group (GSA,TSA,DEA, DHS) caught 
breaking the law...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The US Government in all its agencies looks more and more like Sodom and Gomorrah each day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I noticed. Corrupt, induglent and reckless in direct proportion to<br />
how bossy and nosy they get toward us&#8230;. What crazy times.<br />
Every day a new alphabet soup group (GSA,TSA,DEA, DHS) caught<br />
breaking the law&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#43, I agree with all that, obviously. My rant was directed at people who are outraged at the individuals responsible for this kind of banal evil but still wring their hands and tiptoe around the same obvious truth when it comes to, say, armed raids against nonviolent offenders (or wrong door raids), etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43, I agree with all that, obviously. My rant was directed at people who are outraged at the individuals responsible for this kind of banal evil but still wring their hands and tiptoe around the same obvious truth when it comes to, say, armed raids against nonviolent offenders (or wrong door raids), etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Player1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Player1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quotation that should, and hopefully will, appear around here more often...

&quot;The world is my country, Mankind is my brethren and to do good is my religion.&quot;
           -Thomas Paine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quotation that should, and hopefully will, appear around here more often&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The world is my country, Mankind is my brethren and to do good is my religion.&#8221;<br />
           -Thomas Paine</p>
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		<title>By: perlhaqr</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/17/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-3115082</link>
		<dc:creator>perlhaqr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US Government in all its agencies looks more and more like Sodom and Gomorrah each day.  And if you were asked to find even ten righteous people among them, you might well fail.

Maybe we&#039;ll get lucky and someone will turn them all to pillars of salt.  (A particularly poetic end to Bloomberg, I&#039;d say.  ;) )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Government in all its agencies looks more and more like Sodom and Gomorrah each day.  And if you were asked to find even ten righteous people among them, you might well fail.</p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;ll get lucky and someone will turn them all to pillars of salt.  (A particularly poetic end to Bloomberg, I&#8217;d say.  ;) )</p>
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		<title>By: tulip</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/17/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-3115033</link>
		<dc:creator>tulip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley,
Are you aware of this? http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/04/debtors-prison-for-failure-to-pay-for-your-own-trial.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,<br />
Are you aware of this? <a href="http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/04/debtors-prison-for-failure-to-pay-for-your-own-trial.html" rel="nofollow">http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/04/debtors-prison-for-failure-to-pay-for-your-own-trial.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deoxy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/17/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-3114988</link>
		<dc:creator>Deoxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;OK&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, that didn&#039;t work - probably gonna take a moderator.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>OK</i><b></b>, that didn&#8217;t work &#8211; probably gonna take a moderator.</p>
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		<title>By: Deoxy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2012/04/17/convicted-defendants-left-uninformed-of-forensic-flaws-found-by-justice-dept/comment-page-1/#comment-3114985</link>
		<dc:creator>Deoxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Italics &lt;/i&gt;fix?  I hope...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italics fix?  I hope&#8230;</p>
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