Save Injustice Everywhere

Saturday, April 7th, 2012

David Packman, who has been tirelessly documenting police misconduct for three years at his Injustice Everywhere blog, writes that he may soon need to quit the project.

I’m not sure what can be done to save the site. It seems that more than just a round of donations (though I’m sure he’d appreciate if you donated), it looks as if he can really only continue the project if it can become a full time job for him.

I’m posting here because I think the site is valuable and the project should continue on. Maybe someone who reads this has some ideas on how to make sure that happens.

Whatever happens, he deserves a ton of praise for what he’s already done. Packman mostly just documents, but when he does editorialize, he usually does so with restraint, drawing on the incidents he has documented. On too many occasions to count, his site has helped me find and research stories.

If there’s some think tank or civil liberties group out there that might consider hosting and sponsoring what Packman does, it would do us all an important service.

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21 Responses to “Save Injustice Everywhere

  1. #1 |  router | 

    Totally agree. I follow the site on Twitter and it keeps me up to date on the latest outrageous police misconduct stories. What about applying for foundation funding? What about: adding a “Donate” link to the top menu bar on the website?, trying to popularize the site and solicit donations on reddit (maybe post bi-weekly posts on issues related to police misconduct, a specific case, trends, etc.). A “recurring donation” link prominently displayed on the website might also help with securing more stable funding (like the “Recurring Donation” link on *this* site).

  2. #2 |  EH | 

    It’s odd he doesn’t have any donation buttons or anything. Who’s his current hosting provider? Maybe there’s a cheaper one available.

  3. #3 |  Benjamin mann | 

    His Twitter feed is excellent. It will be sorely missed.

  4. #4 |  John P. | 

    I’m sure every cop in the nation would love to see his site go away… we need to help him out!

    He is doing an incredible job that needs to be done.

    Radley,

    I’d be nice if perhaps you could see if the Huff Po could do something to help him out, if nothing more than hosting his site for him.

  5. #5 |  David | 

    Thank you for the kind words and for wanting the project to continue Mr. Balko.

    First, to address some of the comments so far, we used to have a “Donate” button but I took it down now because the issue is less about donations and more about sustainability. The donations we did receive were greatly appreciated but were never enough to preclude the need for me to maintain meaningful employment as I am the only breadwinner in my family. Without getting into detail, my wife cannot work.

    When I started the project, the nature of my employment allowed me the time and flexibility to track reports while also meeting deadlines on my projects. However, the economy changed and my new employment requires much more of my time and attention, meaning that I can no longer sustain my job while also tracking reports and running the site. The two are now mutually incompatible and I never cleared nearly enough in donations to make the project my sole source of income and provide for my family at the same time.

    So, the issue isn’t really about donations, I never expected or intended to earn enough in donations to make the project stand on it’s own, it was necessary to beg for those while I was out of work and when my employment was no longer sufficient to pay the bills during the transitions between contract work.

    The issue is that a project of this nature requires a substantial investment in time and effort. Far more than most people realize. I did what I could to start it and keep it going, now it’s at a point where I can’t do that anymore, so it seems logical to ask if anyone else is willing to make the sacrifices I made to keep it going, or if everyone feels it’s not worth that sacrifice and lets it end.

    The only way I would consider continuing as I have so far would be if I could do it as my full time employment, but I have tried for funding and failed each time, sometimes embarrassingly so, (one time a children’s book about prison life won out over our project).

    Make no mistake, I would keep going if I could, I already sacrificed quite a bit keeping it going as long as I did already and I am deeply proud of this project… but, I’m very sorry to say, reality is what it is.

  6. #6 |  AlgerHiss | 

    #5, whatever happens, you have done a great service. There are scads of “police” out there that despise you, for only pointing out the truth.

    Your family should be extremely proud of you.

  7. #7 |  John | 

    The best thing that you can do is spill all your info, links, and homework, to the American public and let it be known. It will only keep your work and cause going if this is all possible.

  8. #8 |  John | 

    PS Good luck and I hope for a better future.

  9. #9 |  David | 

    Thanks Alger, my family has been very supportive of what I’ve been doing, even though my wife hates to hear about the cases I cover since some of them are truly horrible events that really scare her.

    They sacrificed for my doing this too, not just financially, but in time spent tracking cases after work when I could have spent it with them… but they didn’t complain much because they felt what I was doing was important and necessary too. Needless to say, I’m proud of them too.

    As for some people despising me, I’m not ignorant of that fact, but I also think many police officers understand I didn’t do this project out of hate or spite and have seen that I’ve done what I can to be fair. I think that’s been the biggest surprise for me, when officers write encouraging messages of support for the project.

  10. #10 |  David | 

    John, the info is there on the site, viewable and downloadable for free with no restrictions. So are the statistical reports and raw data I used to create them. It’s all there for the taking, always has been.

    The 2011 data isn’t up yet because I haven’t had time to categorize and properly analyze that data, it will appear somewhere once I have, whether the site is still up or not… Heck, maybe I’ll just give that data to Radley if he wants to share it.

    If I hand it off, the extent of info sharing moving forward will be up to the person I hand it off to. Otherwise, if nobody takes it over, the site will remain up as is, but un-updated, until the domain expires or the host provider tires of it taking up server space.

    Thank you for the well wishes though, I appreciate that!

  11. #11 |  Peter Ramins | 

    Could he directly solicit donations from the institutions that have published articles and papers using his data?

  12. #12 |  Difster | 

    David,

    I know the guys over at CopBlock.org have offered to join forces, maybe you’d consider that. You would maintain complete autonomy over the site and you could break it off again any time you wanted.

    I can help you take care of that if you’d like. That way you could still stay involved but other people would be too.

  13. #13 |  Bobby Black | 

    Thank you for everything David…your site is so valuable to people who love America and love Liberty. I am crossing my fingers. Reddit put the word out as well. Something may come up yet, but a donation button would help. i know you are loathe to accept donations for doing the right thing, but that kind of altruism could lose the US a valuable asset in the struggle against crooked cops and officials. Keep the faith. We may find somebody anybody to help you out yet. Thanks for everything. You and Radley are formidable proponents of freedom, and i pray you will not go away.

  14. #14 |  David | 

    Difster,

    As I mentioned on the site, anyone or any group is welcome to propose any arrangement they want, but part of that process has to involve our readers, they have a say in it since they supported the project so much. So, if CopBlock is still willing to take it over I’m not opposed to the idea so long as it’s something the readers of my site don’t oppose. There is at least one other person who seems to be considering taking it over, so I would imagine there might be a vote involved.

    Bobby, thank you very kindly for the strong support, I appreciate it.

  15. #15 |  AlgerHiss | 

    A similar site to David’s, on a single state basis, is:

    http://whentennesseepigsfly.wordpress.com/

    I believe this person is an attorney, and they do a good job.

  16. #16 |  Bobby Black | 

    Copblock is another regular stop, but they are slow in getting stories out and the site is not as clean and easy to navigate as yours. Do NOt get me wrong, i want them to know they are appreciated, but your site is simple, to the point, and so orderly and tidy that i think others should learn from it, and integrate it’s navigable ease into their sites. i am in, and behind you and copblock, and since i am disabled and fighting for my family’s future in a court of law against Traveler’s insurance and their legion of lawyers and private eyes bent on starving me into a BS settlement, there is nothing of money i can contribute, but i can wave a banner and bang pots with the best of them. Let liberty forever shine on you and yours.

  17. #17 |  just a libertarian cop treading water | 

    Sure hoping this can be saved somehow.
    As a cop, I can say, you are doing some incredibly important work.
    Way more important than you might even realize.

  18. #18 |  Mike Magnus | 

    Has anyone asked how much in donations it would require for David to continue this site by making it his full time employment?
    There are thousands of us like minded Liberty loving Americans who rely on sites like these to get information, if we can’t muster up enough recurring donations to save one of them what does that say about us?

  19. #19 |  Nomad | 

    Seems to me that the simple solution to save Injustice Everywhere is to bring others into the project. It would allow David to stay involved with a subject he is clearly still passionate about, and distribute the workload to maintain the quality and timeliness of reporting. It would probably mean more to him to have people step up and volunteer their time to support the project than it would to have a heap of donations. Just a guess.

  20. #20 |  RRR | 

    As Nomad pointed out, a shared workload is really the only for a project of this scope and subject matter to survive.

    I do not know how Dave has been able to single handedly been able to mentally cope with the shit he does so on a daily basis.

    I hope that some others can and will step in, lend a helping hand and continue to move this site forward. It is needed and does provide a great resource for many. Not all will agree with it, big deal, but it is needed.

  21. #21 |  Mike Magnus | 

    Fair enough. But it seems the only way to keep the site going in it’s current format is to donate enough money to David to make it worthwhile for him to make the site his full time job.
    Help is nice of course, but not entirely plausible. Different people, with different goals, in different states all working on the same site. Not impossible, and hopefully it works out. But the clearest way to make sure that site stays up is to have David working on it full time. Which would cost all of us ten or twenty bucks a month each. An amount hardly any of us would even notice, but which would make a huge difference in David’s life and in the site we all enjoy.
    The other option is to turn it over to others, cross your fingers, and hope it doesn’t turn to shit. Which given the rarity that is a David’s site, requires some serious optimism.
    Again, help is nice and hopefully people step forward to offer it. But at the end of the day, David needs money to make this work. And that’s what we should give him.

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