First, medical services are a finite resource just like everything else in the known universe. Trying to get Uncle Sugar to use his government club to beat people into providing more resources will not magically make such resources appear. Too much government clubbing, and individuals will choose to exit the medical profession entirely, just as they have done in other countries with government-run medical systems.

Lastly, forcing individuals to do work is known as slavery. Are you aware that you’re advocating slavery?

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/prosecutor-reviews-case-of-ill-woman-who-died-at-jail/article_d72b47b2-f73e-5038-8a7e-edcb800ab5e0.html?mode=story

No word on what if anything might happen.

It was the hospital that decided not to further investigate her symptoms, probably because she could not pay for it. I know some people don’t have a problem with persons dying because they don’t have money to pay for medical care, but I and a great many others see that as just plain evil. If we had Medicare-for-All, maybe the ER would have performed a more thorough exam or kept her for observation. Maybe if we had a decent government funded infrastructure to help addicts and the mentally ill she wouldn’t have been on the street to begin with (assuming she had such problems). That story seems like a good argument for a bigger welfare state.

It sounds like the hospital’s triage procedures were poor, to me.

Have you read this website before? Americans are entirely tolerant of police breaking into homes and even killing the residents. All that’s required is a near complete media blackout on such cases, and if one does trend well and gets reported on, all the police have to do is throw out a few stock phrases and all is forgiven. Just say the victim had some unproven connection to “drugs” or “terrorism” or “resisted arrest” or that “officers feared for their safety” or that “a thorough internal investigation is being undertaken” and chances are everyone will forget about it in six months. If the family has legal funds they *might* get a settlement from the state, which will not effect police or their tactics in the slightest.

> She was examined using ultrasound. They didn’t find any blood clots. She died about an hour later.

This is what I don’t get about this story. An ultrasound detects most clots, but not all clots. How could this ER have excluded DVT based only on an ultrasound? Do they have some sort of magical super-ultrasound machine not available to the rest of the community?

WTF? Some of the commenters are like “Thank you, Big Brother!” I assume that they don’t have something like the 2nd Amenment across the ditch but I’m certain that here in the US (not currently nor ever have been a gun owner) there’d be a pile of dead cops in Essex. Just one time, mind you, but it would stop.

How is not a fucking crime for someone to enter your home without authorization? Jeebus…

“My legs don’t work!” Brown yelled as police wheeled her out of the hospital after the exam. Officers dragged her into the jail and left her on the floor of a jail cell, where she died.

I trust that the cops involved slept well that night comforted by others that they did nothing at all wrong. Stanley Milgram uncovered something very powerful indeed.

Because a mother of two died on the floor of a jail cell from a preventable condition.

There was no question that Afghanistan was the epicenter housing and training those responsible for what had happened here. It would have been immoral and unethical not to clean their streets.

Only uncivilized, immoral and unethical people would have “turned the other cheek”.

It’s “awful” only in the sense that, unfortunately, nobody is perfect – including doctors and hospital workers. Even if they’re entirely sincere and scrupulous, they’re still going to make mistakes and mis- or non-diagnose ailments, and people are going to die. It’s also tragic when somebody’s car hits a slick patch of road and skids off, killing them, but at the same time such events are inevitable.

I’d like to say that I’m uninsured and so I’ve been to the hospital three times in my adult life. Each time, in utterly severe pain (a pair of gastrointestinal ailments), the nurses and doctors were heroes – relieving me of the pain and acting with competence and professionalism. (Again, even though I had no money.) The last time I went – just this last January – the emergency room was jammed up by poor people there for absolute non-emergencies, but just exploiting it for attention, minor aches and pains, or very likely to get free prescription pain killers. These scumbags caused me to have to writhe in agony for hours waiting my turn. Ultimately, I had to have my gallbladder removed. So this “boy who cried wolf” situation with many poor people (and, yes, disproportionately black) is going to cause other problems, such as that story.

In fact, the Arab states have made some important overtures of peace to Israel lately. The Arab League, impelled by the Arab Spring, have made important concessions on the right to return and boundaries. There are both political and economic reasons for this.

That both the Isralie and Palestian governments are too weak to utilise the opening is another matter. It’s still useful that Hamas have had to cut their ties with (and funding from) Syria, mind you – and that Hezbollah has had to declare themselves against the Arab Spring and FOR Syria/Iran.

So let’s focus on realistic cases, shall we. Because the Egyptian military ain’t going anywhere it doesn’t want to, and Syria is under embargo from the other Arab states.

By what moral reasoning do you make this statement?

If you go to a search engine and type in the appropriate key words, you’ll find many, many sources with millions of casualties. Here’s one result:

http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

It’s funny, because you can always go to LiveLeak, Torrent, DailyMotion, etc., etc., etc. and see countless videos of “the troops” murdering defenseless Arabs (laughing as they’re picking them off from the backs of jeeps, tops of buildings, helicopter FLIR vids, etc.) but I was thinking how there’s no evidence like this of any killed Americans. Yeah, there are the odd videos where the Arabs are disguised in masks and things (and we don’t know who’s behind them), but in terms of cell phone and cam video of Americans being killed like the ones of Arabs being killed? Zero. I believe this is because there are no such videos because there are no Americans being killed by Arabs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6rSawYKJqo&t=45s

Ah, teenage boys having innocent laughs!

Funnily, every time there is video of an American murdered….it turns out to have been done by fellow Americans. Kind of like how cops are much more likely to kill each other than be shot by third parties, only probably even moreso.

I think that ALL human life is sacred (both from the Bible and as written in the Declaration of Independence) and so, for me, the nationality or whatever doesn’t matter. But, just as an exercise in how Americans’ thoughts are so totally controlled by the media (more American men die working every single year than have been killed in the ENTIRE Iraq “war” and, again, those deaths almost always seems suspicious), this is interesting in that respect. The D.C./Zionist propaganda machine (the movies and such) clearly create Americans’ concepts of the “war”, not the “war” itself. (Much like, as Balko wrote, American crime has plummeted since 1990 and yet Americans all believe that crime has gotten worse. Because of the media, obviously, because that idea couldn’t have come from observing the world around them.)

The penalty should be at least double, since he is on duty and represents the police force.

I know, dream on.