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Friday, February 24th, 2012
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  1. #1 |  Mario | 

    The New Yorker did a piece just a couple of weeks ago about the suicide of the Rutgers student that sparked this cyberbullying law. The long of the short of it is that the incident was misreported and sensationalized by the media. There was never any webcam broadcast of a gay tryst, and there is at least some reason to believe that the student may have been contemplating suicide before he ever got to Rutgers. The law is the result of every two-bit interest group looking to put its two cents in.

  2. #2 |  EBL | 

    Aren’t things like lab grown meat intended to entice you non vegetarians to give it a try? Hey anything that gets you off beef is a good thing from my perspective!

    But I admit I do like Vietnamese gluten (like mock duck) sometimes. Some treat that as a meat substitute. To me it is unique to itself, but it is better than tofu.

  3. #3 |  M | 

    The cyberbullying article seems to disdain allowing school officials discretion in enforcement of the rules. That’s better than a zero tolerance law at least.

  4. #4 |  EBL | 

    On the White Castle article, a better pairing might be a combination of bong hits and beers. But that is just something I vaguely remember from college.

  5. #5 |  Mattocracy | 

    I’m a huge Megadeth fan and I failed the shit out of that quiz.

  6. #6 |  Alex | 

    Vegetarians could just buy the frankenmeat and throw it out…

  7. #7 |  boomshanka | 

    Test tube meat is still meat. Why would someone who is a vegetarian for health reasons have to eat it? Sure there are activist vegetarians and vegans, but there are other ways they can promote test tube meat to meat-eaters without consuming it themselves.

    The writer seems like he just wants to make fun of PETA members.

  8. #8 |  Alex | 

    So how do we know the test tube meat won’t taste good?

  9. #9 |  Mattocracy | 

    According to the cyber-bullying law, everyone who has ever made a comment on the threads at ESPN are criminals.

  10. #10 |  Luther | 

    I’m on the council of the city of Moorhead, MN where the council (over my objections) criminalized the mere possession of “facsimile” weapons. The nanny-statists are everywhere!

  11. #11 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “•Minnesota cops use DMV database as their own Facebook.”

    Raises the question of why there are no published Cop Databases
    other than cryptic ratemycop. Or why in the 21st Century artists have to resort to crayons to depict court scenes. They want no
    accountability or transparency. Meanwhile podunk cops use Federal databases to spy on us.

  12. #12 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Stolen Valor: if this is a good idea, why isn’t it a good idea for all resume “creativity”? Make it a felony for saying you worked at Hooter’s when in fact you very much did not.

    @mattocracy,
    One day I’d like to find the one person (who isn’t a state agent) who is NOT a criminal.

  13. #13 |  Jesse | 

    Is there anything that doesn’t go well with White Castles? Whoever invented the White Castle burger was an unqualified genius.

  14. #14 |  Dave Krueger | 

    Good takedown of New Jersey’s new cyber-bullying law.

    You’re not supposed to use bullying to enforce social norms. That’s vigilantism. Social norms are now supposed to be enforced by throwing people in prison (which also just happens to create jobs for people who don’t have any other marketable skills).

  15. #15 |  Goober | 

    The Stolen Valor law is an obvious violation of the First Amendment. That being said, I would support a revision to assault laws that would allow any real veteran to punch an imposter in the face one time without legal ramifications.

  16. #16 |  Brian | 

    Honestly, I don’t see how the Stolen Valor law is a strictly First Amendment issue. If you like about a military career, and associated medals, in order to gain financially (such as getting elected into office), that seems like pretty straight-forward fraud.

  17. #17 |  MikeZ | 

    Everytime I see that Dave Mustaine quote regarding Santorum, I get a chuckle out of the line “I’m hoping that if it does come down to it, we’ll see a Republican in the White House”. What does Dave think here the Apocolypse is still on for 2012? Or Congress is going to pass a law electing Obama as the King of America?

  18. #18 |  Ted S. | 

    Boomshanka wrote:

    Test tube meat is still meat.

    But it doesn’t come from animals, unless you believe that using embryonic stem cells is killing humans.

  19. #19 |  EBL | 

    Off topic but you might want to look at this story Radley. All I can say to this is Wow!

    An atheist activist, Ernie Perce, dressed as “Zombie Mohammed” in a Pennsylvania parade was physically assaulted by Talag Elbayomy, an offended Muslim on looker. Assault and harassment charges were brought against the Mr. Elbayomy. A Pennsylvania judge, Magistrate Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and Muslim convert, threw out the charges against Defendant Elbayomy saying any first amendment rights were trumped by the offense to Islam. The judge then lectured Mr. Perce about Islam. The judge accepted the defendant’s Sharia defense for the assault. Now Mr. Perce, the victim, is facing contempt of court charges for releasing video of the hearing.

  20. #20 |  EBL | 

    I am speechless over that story!

  21. #21 |  Aresen | 

    Brian | February 24th, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    Honestly, I don’t see how the Stolen Valor law is a strictly First Amendment issue. If you like about a military career, and associated medals, in order to gain financially (such as getting elected into office), that seems like pretty straight-forward fraud.

    In general, “straight-forward fraud” describes most political platforms. By that standard, you would have to put almost every congresscritter in prison. (The latter’s a pleasant thought, but it will never get anywhere.)

  22. #22 |  boomshanka | 

    @Ted S.

    I’m sorry but that’s just incoherent.

  23. #23 |  Longtorso | 

    Forgive the repost – noscript is acting weird.

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  24. #24 |  Marty | 

    I guess all the convenient store chicks in Minnesota are sick of cops… are there any government databases that benefit the taxpayers?

  25. #25 |  Ted S. | 

    @Boomshanka

    I was under the impression that vegetarians have ethical problems in killing animals to obtain meat. If you grow the meat from stem cells, you’re not killing the animal. Unless you believe that obtaining stem cells is equivalent to killing animals.

    I think the only people who consider obtaining stel cells equivalent to killing a living thing are the Christian types who think using embryonic stem cells kills babies.

  26. #26 |  derfel cadarn | 

    As for Michigan being concerned that people are cutting off the orange end of toys guns and threatening others .It would now appear that there should be serious concern that politicians are being elected to “service of the people”having their brains cut out and then threatening others with stupidity. Then it would seem that the Fed/gov is treading a very slippery slope if it intends to charge people with felonies for lying. If this is the case our government offices will be deserted along with the spaces occupied by appointed bureaucrats . If it takes charges of felonious lying to save this country ,SO BE IT.

  27. #27 |  tariqata | 

    I don’t really see why vegetarians should be obligated to eat vat-grown meat (and presumably bankrupt themselves thereby) in order to bring the price down so that meat-eaters can afford it. I’m not adverse to a bit of PETA chain yanking, but that argument’s too absurd to be funny. If the goal is to reduce the number of animals killed for food, I’m pretty sure that it would be far easier, and they’d be far more effective, by simply sharing their delicious meatless food and recipes with their non-vegetarian friends. (In fact, I enthusiastically encourage my vegetarian friends to invite me over for dinner more often.)

  28. #28 |  Mannie | 

    I think the only people who consider obtaining stel cells equivalent to killing a living thing are the Christian types who think using embryonic stem cells kills babies.

    That’s not the argument. It’s more of a “Fruit of the Poison Tree” argument, sort of like whether we should use Mengele’s research from Auschwitz to save lives. (Fortunately for the debate, Mengele’s work was apparently worthless.) There is also some fear that using embrionic stem cells would make abortion look less evil, thereby promoting abortion.

    I will not take a position on those arguments, here.

  29. #29 |  Mannie | 

    #26 | derfel cadarn | February 24th, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    As for Michigan being concerned that people are cutting off the orange end of toys guns and threatening others .It would now appear that there should be serious concern that politicians are being elected to “service of the people”having their brains cut out and then threatening others with stupidity.

    Micro surgery?

  30. #30 |  boomshanka | 

    @Ted S.

    I think you’ve misread my comment. I never said that test tube meat is the equivalent of killing an animal and I don’t believe that to be true. But I consider it meat from a nutritional standpoint, which is why people who choose vegetarianism for health reasons (not ethical reasons) still won’t want to eat stem cell grown meat.

  31. #31 |  MDGuy | 

    Rasmusson, who is planning to file a lawsuit, maintains that the activity is symptomatic of a larger problem involving data abuses by police and fears retribution from officers for bringing the problem to light.

    Could there be a more clear indication that police are thugs than one of their own fearing retribution for reporting a crime?

  32. #32 |  EBL | 

    We have a minor magistrate in Pennsylvania (above) going all Sharia on us, but at least we have the 11th Circuit doing the right thing here: http://volokh.com/2012/02/23/eleventh-circuit-finds-fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination-not-to-decrypt-encyrpted-computer/

  33. #33 |  lunchstealer | 

    I’m pretty sure nobody should feel obligated to eat anything, should they? Unless you’re a 15 year-old who asked specifically for his dad to get some oranges at the store, then you should damned well eat the sunsabitches rather than having one and leaving the rest to attract fruit flies, because we don’t live in a place where they just grow on trees, y’know?

  34. #34 |  Ahcuah | 

    If lying is outside the First Amendment, then I can see a pretty strong slippery slope danger. How long before they can then criminalize calling some politician an asshole? Or even political speech that politifact says is “pants on fire”?

  35. #35 |  AL | 

    If vegetarians are used to their vegetarian diet, they probably won’t feel a need to eat test tube meat, so why would they? There are other ways to promote driving the price of it down. I suppose a rich vegetarian could just buy it and trash it as someone above mentioned, or better yet, just give money to further research on test tube meat.

    Regarding meat eaters, if test tube meat is biochemically indistinguishable from regular meat, I don’t see why any meat eaters would object to it simply from how it’s made. I mean, “look how it’s made” never stopped anyone from eating sausage. (What was that quote again about objecting to how sausage and legislation are made?)

  36. #36 |  Rich | 

    All life is sacred, all life, vegetarians just eat life that can not run away.

  37. #37 |  EBL | 

    When I look at fresh green grass, I want to eat it just like some of you want to eat steak. All flesh is grass. Isaiah 40:6

  38. #38 |  EBL | 

    There is a reason Rich the French call shellfish, the fruit of the sea. Most of them can’t run away.

  39. #39 |  Aresen | 

    EBL: The French or the shellfish?

  40. #40 |  croaker | 

    Aresen: The shellfish, of course. We all know the French can run.

    French military surplus: Never fired, only dropped once.

  41. #41 |  FTP | 

    @croaker

    Tell that to all the brave people who fought in the French Resistance.

  42. #42 |  Aresen | 

    FTP: I honor those who served in the French Resistance, but the myth is vastly overblown, primarily to cover up the extent of French collaboration. The French collaborated on a vastly greater scale than any of the later NATO states. I recommend that you view the documentary The Sorrow and the Pity for an eye-opening view of its extent.

    By contrast, check the Resistance Movements in Denmark (BoPa & Holger Danske, who helped evacuate thousands of Jews to Sweden) and Holland (where 200,000 people were hidden from the Germans and the whole country went on strike in 1941.)

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