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Thursday, February 16th, 2012
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  1. #1 |  Nick T. | 

    Re: Video Game Czar,

    The White House should make a game called “Transparency.” It would be just like minesweeper except that the object is to hide all the bombs and make sure it’s as confusing and impossible as imaginable for anyone else to figure out where they are.

  2. #2 |  dave smith | 

    Arizona seems to have become equal opportunity crazy land.

  3. #3 |  a_random_guy | 

    I will note here that the arguments in the article completely miss this point of dog licensing – either the journalist or the country spokesperson is clueless. There are legitimate reasons for dogs to have tags and/or microchips. The most important of these is the ability to identify the animal, for example, if it gets lost, or is run over, or whatever.

    This guy’s reason for not having a license? Because the dog belongs to his daughter. He calls it a “service animal” – so what? Does the fact that his daughter is autistic mean that the dog will never get lost, or need to be identified?

    He failed to buy dog license. He failed to pay a ticket he received, for not having a license. They locked him up 7 hours, to make a point. I’m not really seeing the problem here.

  4. #4 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “Lanning was accused of purchasing prescribed pills for a person working with the Narcotics Enforcement Team.”

    Oh but it’s different for him. See he has a stressful job. And it was pills not a dirty hippy subversive drug like marijuana. So see, its different. We should wish him a speedy recovery. He should probably just be re-assigned to the evidence room for awhile ;)

  5. #5 |  Radley Balko | 

    This guy’s reason for not having a license? Because the dog belongs to his daughter. He calls it a “service animal” – so what? Does the fact that his daughter is autistic mean that the dog will never get lost, or need to be identified?

    How do you know the dog wasn’t chipped, or at least had a tag with the owner’s contact information?

    Why does this concern need to be resolved by a requirement to register your dog with the government?

  6. #6 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    RE: “Police Chief arrested on drug charges”

    Hey Radley,
    Just FYI, this link goes to a story that says the Barren County Sheriff was indicted on “two counts of deprivation of rights, one count of witness tampering, one count falsification of a document and one count of giving a false statement to federal investigators.” You may have just gotten your corrupt police chief stories mixed up today. Unfortunately it is easy to do. Have a good one.

  7. #7 |  Matt | 

    Come on. The guy didn’t get arrested because his dog didn’t have a license. He got arrested because he ignored the summons on the ticket he received. It’s reasonable to want to fight the requirement to get a license, or in this case having to pay what amounts to a tax to fund the new animal shelter, but that’s not the reason he was handcuffed and in jail for seven hours.

  8. #8 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    RE: Arizona
    “We don’t want our media raising our kids.”

    Of course not. That’s what the government is for.

  9. #9 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “•Man spends time in jail after refusing to license his dog.”

    The jails are increasingly used to lock up
    people who have not commited real crimes.
    I remember getting scooped off the street in Palm Beach Co by the wolfpack and getting taken to PB County Jail on some ancient traffic matter.
    What are you guys all in here for, I asked: expired license, resisting arrest, civil contempt, sleeping in a park, etc. I demanded my money back: off to jail and no real criminals. I was pissed.

  10. #10 |  gonzostl | 

    Re: The Buchtel Chief Of Police

    I bet they didn’t use the SWAT team to serve this warrant.

  11. #11 |  coyote | 

    Non-dog wins Westminster? You mean an alien. Should be hanging out in the back of the Star Wars cantina

  12. #12 |  crazybob | 

    ” The most important of these is the ability to identify the animal, for example, if it gets lost, or is run over, or whatever.”

    Actually the most important reason is that the owner can be held accountable if the dog causes injury or damage. Dogs are quite capable of seriously injuring people you know, and being able to identify the owner is key to making sure owners are responsible.

  13. #13 |  Pablo | 

    Where I live one is required to get a license for a dog or a cat, even if the animal is always indoors. I agree with Radley; it is one thing to say its a good idea to tag or otherwise ID an animal–it in another to say the govenment should imprison people who decline to do so.

    Here, veterinarians are actually required by law to report the names and addresses of anyone who brings a dog or cat in for care.

    A couple of years ago I adopted a rescue cat and took him in to the vet. A few weeks later I received a polite reminder letter from the county to get a license. I ignored it, and shortly thereafter got a not so polite letter threatening me with a court summons if I did not pay for the privilege of sheltering this animal. By that time a permanent home had been located so it was moot.

    Recently got another cat. Not sure if the vet reported it–it was months ago and I haven’t received a demand for money in the mail yet.

  14. #14 |  Mr. Man | 

    And in other news, downtown Phoenix has a Mardi Gras. I am especially happy that they retain the rich traditions of their French settlers.

  15. #15 |  Loretta Nall | 

    I giggle and shake my head every time I see that ONDCP ad. WTF? What sane parent, or kid for that matter, thinks jumping off buildings is safer than consuming cannabis? What exactly is the message they are trying to get across with that ad?

  16. #16 |  Mattocracy | 

    Not so crazybob. According to the county..

    “The county say the animal licenses are needed to fund the new $10 million Foothills Animal Shelter. The license is a little star or circle that the dog is supposed to wear and help get it returned if lost.”

    Another fee to pay for something the county probably shouldn’t be doing the first place.

  17. #17 |  MacGregory | 

    RE: A+++++ seller. Would buy again.

    I understand the temptation to shout this good fortune from the rooftops but, if it were me, I’d have kept my mouth shut.

  18. #18 |  CyniCAl | 

    •Man spends time in jail after refusing to license his dog.

    Not entirely accurate. He spent time in jail for failure to appear for the unlicensed dog citation. While this is in the “splitting hairs” category, it does highlight the State’s deadly chain of force that is almost always obscured by routine compliance.

    It is written often here that all State actions are death threats committed at gunpoint. This story takes one more step than the usual story toward demonstrating that. Resistance to the State either stops at one of the points below or proceeds all the way to the bitter end.

    Unlicensed dog … citation … failure to appear … arrest warrant … resisting arrest … send in the SWAT team … resist, shoot back … firefight, bang … you’re dead.

    I suppose it is up to the individual to decide if it is better to be dead with dignity or a living slave.

  19. #19 |  Bob | 

    What the hell is with this “Parkour” shit? Sure, there may be a few people with the agility to do this shit, but most people are just going to break their legs (or head) if they try these stunts.

    If I had kids, I would much rather they be smoking pot than jumping off buildings for kicks.

    I don’t get it. If you go “Human Spider” and use climbing gear to climb a building, you get arrested. But if you’re stupid enough to try to jump from one building to another just for kicks, you’re a “Drug War Hero?”

  20. #20 |  CyniCAl | 

    @#13 | Pablo

    Where do you live? I wasn’t aware of any cat licensure.

  21. #21 |  Donald | 

    Leason of the day-Remember the combo of your safe.

  22. #22 |  omar | 

    Where do you live? I wasn’t aware of any cat licensure.

    We have these kitty licensing requirements in DeKalb County, GA. After paying the vet for vaccines, the state demands $5 for the privilege of reporting my vaccine records. Ignore ignore ignore until caught. Then I will pay that shit because i don’t want to go down the violence chain.

  23. #23 |  Comrade Dread | 

    New ONDCP ad: Smoking pot isn’t cool. It’s dangerous. You know what is cool and not dangerous? Jumping off of buildings.

    You know, if this were the only stupidity our government did in the name of fighting the war on drugs, I’d be happy.

  24. #24 |  Nancy Lebovitz | 

    The non-dog appears to be a Himalayan (persian with siamese markings) cat. In any case, it looks very unhappy, and I’m glad it’s retiring from dog shows.

  25. #25 |  Mannie | 

    Man spends time in jail after refusing to license his dog.

    Actually, it was for blowing off a court summons. But it underscores the lethal power of the State. In the end, the only power they have is to kill you. And it’s always been thus, and probably always will.

    As for the requirement for tags, I think the biggest and most justifiable reason is rabies control. The tag is generally tied to current rabies vaccination. As a result we have very little rabies in this country. The mutt being a “service dog” bears no relation to its ability to transmit rabies.

  26. #26 |  Mike D. | 

    “Why does this concern need to be resolved by a requirement to register your dog with the government?”

    Why does the government require drivers to carry liability car insurance?

    Because if it’s not required, then there’s always going to be those people that don’t do it. Then when you have a dog that is owned by someone and bites someone, you have a chance that the owner will not be held liable.

    You have extreme bias when it comes to dog owning and the responsibility of dog owners, and it shows.

  27. #27 |  SamK | 

    People shouldn’t be locked up for not paying fines. Ever. You can tag their name in the system and make them pay that fine before receiving *any* govt service if you like, and if the govt is actually doing something he actually needs he’ll pay it…that or attach his taxes. If he goes completely off the reservation and doesn’t use govt services I don’t care how much he supposedly owes, just leave him alone.

    Of course, I don’t like property tax either.

  28. #28 |  Don't comment much | 

    #16 MacGregory February 16th, 2012 at 11:33 am wrote:

    RE: A+++++ seller. Would buy again.

    I understand the temptation to shout this good fortune from the rooftops but, if it were me, I’d have kept my mouth shut.

    True dat. Even though the law most places is pretty clear: buyer wins.

    The rule most places is from Wood v. Boynton, 64 Wis. 265, 25 N.W. 42 (1885).

    There’s a very short synopsis of Wood v. Boynton here:

    http://www.lawnix.com/cases/wood-boynton.html

    But there’s more! Even Murph the Surf comes into the story.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Diamond

    Following these links will meet your FDA established minimum daily requirement of trivia.

  29. #29 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    Mannie,

    Thank you for mentioning Rabies. I had actually forgotten that aspect, and I should know better.

    I remember when the ‘Jimmy Carter and the vicious bunny’ story came out, wondering if ANY of the people mocking him had considered that, in the country, a swimming rabbit that heads toward you instead of away is almost certainly rabid. And that a rabid rabbit is something that you should kill, if you can, before it infects somebody’s valuable livestock.

    I’m not a huge fan of the State, but if your neighbors have voted to have a dog licensing system and you have a dog, you have two rational choices. A) License the damn dog and B) If you can’t stand that, move.

  30. #30 |  Sinchy | 

    It is overkill to lock up a guy for not paying to license his dog, but I think there are many good reasons to require licenses. Some of those reason have been mentioned in comments already. Another is the fact that dog urine and waste damages city infrastructure and trees. Dog waste and urine is not fertilizer to trees! Though fully mature large trees can probably take a few gallons a day a young sapling can have it’s life cut short if all it drinks is dog piss.
    Urine corrodes lamp post bases and metal stairs, which often belong to private owners.
    Furthermore, dog owners who refuse to clean up after their dogs need to face stiff fines and the possibility of having their dog licenses revoked, though enforcement of pooper-sccoper laws seems non-existant here in NYC, at least.
    Not picking up your dogs poo is one of the most selfish and anti-social things a person can do in society. It is so disgusting to see crap smeared all over the sidewalks and it sucks to have to look down while walking through a beautiful city so as to avoid stepping in crap. God it pisses me off. Rant over.

  31. #31 |  Eyewitness | 

    #19 | CyniCAl
    @#13 | Pablo

    “Where do you live? I wasn’t aware of any cat licensure.”

    It was the man in the cat detector van.

  32. #32 |  Mattocracy | 

    The problem is that licensing only proves that law abiding people will license an animal. Those who don’t or won’t will continue to do whatever they want. So let’s say I own a dog that is dangerous. I don’t get my special tag and it jumps the fence and eats a toddler. The license did nothing to prevent this because I have decided not follow the rules in this scenario.

    Let’s say I got my special tag, but the dog had it ripped off while it was wondering through underbrush and then eats a toddler. It’ll be hard to trace it back to me and hold me accountable. Licensing didn’t stop this from happening.

    Let’s say my dog has it’s shots and it’s tag. My dog may not spread rabbies, but it doesn’t stop a wild animal from biting someone. That’s how most people come into contact with rabbies because most people give their dogs shots without a mandate.

    Good pet owners take care of their animals without rules demanding as such. Bad pet owners will ignore these rules. My neighbors are a great example. They let their dogs out in the morning to run up and down the street and shit other people’s yards. Animal Control caught the dogs one and told the owners to come pay a fine to get the dogs back. Instead, they just got new dogs from some other white trash family they knew. The dogs were eventually put down since no came and got them.

    Licencing just creates revenue. It rarely prevents the problem causers from causing problems. You can hold people accountable after the fact, but you can do that with or without issuing a license before hand.

  33. #33 |  Pablo | 

    #19 cyniCal–Fulton county, GA. The county is broke and I think they see this as a revenue generator.

    I do see some merit to the argument that a dog can harm someone and their owner should be identifiable so as to be held accountable. But an indoor cat???

  34. #34 |  Radley Balko | 

    You have extreme bias when it comes to dog owning and the responsibility of dog owners, and it shows.

    Of course! The clear evidence for this bias is my reliably pro-regulation, pro-licensing things with the government, and pro-jailing people for not paying fines position on just about every other issue.

  35. #35 |  Hugo | 

    More fun. The head of the Toronto RIDE (read: drunk driving spotchecks) arrested for drunk driving.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/14/witty-suspended-placed-on-administrative-leave

  36. #36 |  CB | 

    @ a_random_guy
    > There are legitimate reasons for dogs to have tags and/or microchips.

    There are “legitimate” reasons for doing or having a bazillion things and most people love to debate which things they feel are legitimate in their never-ending quest to control (own) others via the violent proxy of government. I’m sure I could find countless “legitimate” things that you don’t subscribe-to, a_random_guy, but I don’t put a gun to your head and force them on you.

  37. #37 |  Chicagojon | 

    Quality link titles today…put these in the link title of the year contest

    The species barrier has been broken, as a non-dog wins Westminster.
    A+++++ seller. Would buy again.

  38. #38 |  KentM | 

    Speaking of Arizona, take a look at this guys mug shot, cops turned him into hamburger after a good tazing….. broke bones in his face and did enough brain damage that he had to be life-flighted out for emergency care. This after breaking down his moms door, trashing her place and threatening to kill her son when they found him.

    http://www.azinews.com/2012/02/16/mom-deputy-dispute-claims-about-inmates-arrest/

  39. #39 |  Nathan A | 

    @17, 28:

    My thoughts exactly. Keep your damn mouth shut. I wouldn’t be so worried about giving anyone a cut but now this guy is in the paper as having found $26k in a safe, and now he’s going to have to pay taxes on that. I’d not be surprised if they took 45% for that kind of windfall… hello there, $14.3k. Nothing to slouch at, but that isn’t the point.

    I’d also be using some of that money to buy more locked safes on eBay.

  40. #40 |  SamK | 

    Eh, licensing lets city planners do neat things like determine if there’s a viable population that would use a dog park even if they’re not vocal and political. A lot of administrative work is like that, figuring out census style info so you can make good decisions because people simply won’t tell you. Not that they should, but licensing doesn’t have to be a big deal. Hell, they could just have the vet do it when they treat an animal and hand out a tag for $1.

    If that’s all licensing were I wouldn’t mind it at all.

  41. #41 |  Andrew S. | 

    @Mike D.: That sounds more like an argument for forcing people to carry liability insurance for their dogs than it does for licensure.

    @Sinchy: I’m not sure what any of that has to do with required licensure. Nor does any of it apply to those of us who don’t live in the city, and whose dogs stay within the confines of our own back yards.

  42. #42 |  Juice | 

    How many times is a Pekinese going to win that damned show? I saw some really beautiful dogs in the little time I watched some of it. And they pick a Pekinese…again.

  43. #43 |  David | 

    I’m pretty sure that’s some kind of overweight, long-haired rabbit whose owner bribed their way into the dog show just to prove that they could.

  44. #44 |  Scott | 

    Having been to EPCOT many, many times, I know exactly the kind of shitty “games” that czar is going to orchestrate.

  45. #45 |  mgr Keeney | 

    Radley, why do/did you use the term “in which” so much in your post titles?

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:theagitator.com+%22in+which%22&pbx=1&oq=site:theagitator.com+%22in+which%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=4341l6350l3l6597l9l1l7l0l0l0l0l0ll7l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d272a33775ff33c4&biw=1021&bih=575

  46. #46 |  CSD | 

    Look people it is important to register and vaccine your pets (even if they are 900 pounds). No word yet if the cattle had their proper tags and registration.

    http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20120203/NEWS/302030042/Rabid-900-pound-cow-attacks-Georgia-farmer?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|NEWS

  47. #47 |  The Comedian | 

    The odd thing is that the TV story says the buyer found $26,000 in the safe, but the ebay feedback says the buyer found $6,000 dollars.

    What’s up with that?

    Feedback for seller — http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=jameslabrecque

    Item listing — http://www.ebay.com/itm/120852095560

  48. #48 |  Stormy Dragon | 

    in the country, a swimming rabbit that heads toward you instead of away is almost certainly rabid

    Or not, since rabbits don’t get rabies:

    http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/exposure/animals/other.html

  49. #49 |  Ben | 

    @Juice – Looking at the past results, looks like this is only the 4th Pekingese that has won Westminster in 105 years, and the first time since 1990.

  50. #50 |  B | 

    I don’t know…maybe young women in Arizona should be made aware of how skin actually ages. When I lived there, there were so many women whom I couldn’t tell if they were 50 and in really great shape or 25 and never used sunscreen.

    (I kid…)

  51. #51 |  Sinchy | 

    #41 | Andrew S.

    Since dog waste and urine add to sanitation and infrastructure costs of a city, licensing could create revenue to offset those expenses or add enforcement for what I believe to be one of the biggest quality of life issues in NYC- dog crap on the sidewalks. Also the city maintains dog parks yet doesn’t ask dog owners to contribute to their upkeep.
    In a big city like NY dog piss in the summer heat stinks and degrades the quality of life, though I understand that there isn’t much we can do about dogs peeing in the streets, I believe that not cleaning up after ones dog mess should entail escalating fines in the thousands of dollars up to revoking the right to own a dog. As far as I can tell the city doesn’t consider this issue a serious quality of life concern though the number of dogs seems to be ever increasing. Obviously some of these concerns wouldn’t be an issue in a rural area where the main issue is dogs getting loose.

  52. #52 |  Bob Mc | 

    RE: #38 | KentM |

    Plenty of Police misconduct in that story, but the headline:
    “Mom, Deputy Dispute Claims about Inmate’s Arrest”
    so clearly shows how the press is nothing but a cheerleader for the state.

    They didn’t arrest an inmate. At the time he was beaten and arrested he was just another citizen, a human being. That headline could have just as easily read “Mom, Deputy Dispute Claims about Man’s Arrest”, or “Mom, Deputy Dispute Claims about Son’s Arrest” or even “Mom, Deputy Dispute Claims about Suspect’s Arrest”.

    By labeling him an “inmate” before even telling his story, that newspaper has made sure most of the public will not care what happens to him. Now, many readers will see him as just an inmate, a criminal, less than human trash that society is better off without.

    Shame on Kingman PD for their dehumanizing and inhumane treatment of this man, and shame on AZ news for their complicity in it.

  53. #53 |  Mike D. | 

    @Sinchy:

    “Since dog waste and urine add to sanitation and infrastructure costs of a city, licensing could create revenue to offset those expenses or add enforcement for what I believe to be one of the biggest quality of life issues in NYC- dog crap on the sidewalks. Also the city maintains dog parks yet doesn’t ask dog owners to contribute to their upkeep.”

    Radley’s a libertarian though, things like dog parks and dog shit cleanup are just magically “there”. Why have something like pet registration to get an idea of a city’s pet population when pet’s waste/public recreation upkeep is handled by unicorn farts?

  54. #54 |  Juice | 

    #49 Ben,

    Hmmm. I must be thinking of other dog shows then. Maybe AKC. Can’t find a list.

  55. #55 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    Stormy Dragon,

    Almost never isn’t never, and most people don’t have that kind of data at their fingertips. When I was growing up, spending summers in a non-urban area, I was taught to suspect any animal that was “Behaving strangely”, and not take chances. A farmer, with a farmer’s concern for livestock, would be even less inclined to take chances. I stand by Carter’s reaction of “Keep it the hell out of the boat”.

    I didn’t think much of Carter when he was President, and I think less of him now. I just think that in this case he got scr*wed by public opinion.

  56. #56 |  mgd | 

    Look, it’s a bleeding pet, isn’t it? I’ve got a license for me pet dog Eric, I’ve got a license for me pet cat Eric…

  57. #57 |  Matt | 

    @Nathan A

    Sounds like a good way to get Wesley Snipe’d.

  58. #58 |  KentM | 

    #52 – Bob Mc
    We’re just lucky the story was picked up at all. The local printed dailies haven’t mentioned a peep of the incident (the site I linked to is an internet news site only). Pretty pathetic that the police department tried to pass off a 7 year old mug shot, thankfully the real one came out. Everything about the story raises eyebrows.

  59. #59 |  jb | 

    they put me in incarceration … I was afraid they would shoot my dog.

    I like that the owner knew to be worried about his dog. Radley, your message is being recieved.

  60. #60 |  Russ 2000 | 

    I don’t get it – if the movie studios don’t like what people can do with DVD’s then there’s a very simple solution that doesn’t require lawmaker involvement at all: STOP MAKING DISCS. Only offer web-based rentals. Then you’ll have all the control you want.

  61. #61 |  el coronado | 

    The MPAA legal nonsense is much less of an insult to its customers than was “Drive”. Or any movie with Shia Labeef.

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  63. #63 |  Gerald A | 

    The species barrier has been broken, as a non-dog wins Westminster?

    So it doesn’t look like other dogs or because of it chinese heritage is the issue? Wasn’t looking different used to jusitfy other things in human history?

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