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Tuesday, February 7th, 2012

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  1. #1 |  Yeah, that guy... | 

    Come on, do we really need to spend taxpayer money recognizing the existence of a particular group of people? Please stop the practice of legislation as capital.
    “Since I got Latino day passed I should get your votes.”
    “Well, since I made stabbing someone with a brown, glass broken bottle a crime, then I’m tough on crime and I should get your votes.”

    Every community should be free to celebrate their culture on their own, without the government stepping in. Everyone has equal protections under the law and we don’t need new legislation for stuff that’s already illegal.

  2. #2 |  Sawchain | 

    Re Arizona, proposing a white people holiday was obviously a rehtorical statement. It perfectly demonstrated the absurdity of proposing a Latino American day. We don’t need to celebrate any particular ethnic group. To do so is unfair to every other ethnic group.

  3. #3 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    Miller was charged with a single count of resisting arrest. “Aside from a blatant violation of Mr. Miller’s First Amendment rights to record matters of public interest in a public place,” Osterreicher wrote, “we do not understand how, absent some other underlying charge for which there was probable cause, a charge of resisting arrest can stand on its own?”

    So they arrested him for resisting arrest? Comedy.

  4. #4 |  M | 

    I thought president’s day was white people day.

  5. #5 |  DoubleU | 

    Yizmo, An arrest for resisting and only for resisting happens quite often. I don’t understand it either and when I questioned it on “The Smoking Gun” I was told I was an idiot.

  6. #6 |  DoubleU | 

    In order for a person to graduate from journalism school they must learn how to lie and mislead. It is a required course. Even Carlos Miller in the earlier link has to know how to take photos to lead the viewer in a certain direction. All journalists mislead the viewer.

  7. #7 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Is “murder” the same as “execution”?

  8. #8 |  Mattocracy | 

    Using the same reasoning as the CIA officials, I work with a guy who thinks anyone who reported the Cam Newton scandal at Auburn were either jealous Bama or Florida fans.

  9. #9 |  CyniCAl | 

    1. I know it’s early in the year, but I would like to nominate comment #6 by DoubleU as the stupidest, most illogical comment of 2012.

    2. Re: NYPD v. Ramarley Graham, we all know that a State agent acting in the line of duty has license to kill — that is unsurprising. What is surprising is just how unsurprising it is becoming. I am slowly getting used to the idea that police are a virus among us, ready, willing and able to kill anyone at any moment. Such is the price of civilization, I guess. Does make one wonder if there are any alternatives.

  10. #10 |  ClubMedSux | 

    Yeah, that Arizona headline is a bit misleading, though I do think it was a stupid thing for the representative to say.

    (And for the record, I DO think that a Latino American Day is dumb; I just don’t think a rhetorical question about a white people’s day is the most effective way to point that out.)

  11. #11 |  Cynic in New York | 


    Yea true but Ash’s supporters and Paleocons will view this as part of the “culture war fight” to keep American culture, American or some other absurd logic of theirs. Also Sawchain’s point is spot on

  12. #12 |  Clay Suide | 

    Why are libertarian’s so mad about the Detroit Comeback commercial(s) (last year’s as well)?

  13. #13 |  Marty | 

    to me, the drones are perpetuating some of the most shameful crimes in my lifetime- they’ve been shot down or crashed in places they clearly weren’t supposed to be, they’ve murdered hundreds of innocent people, including children, and they’re being deployed against us, too.

    Since Obama didn’t fuck any of his interns or slime any dresses, I guess it’s not that bad.

  14. #14 |  ClubMedSux | 

    By the way, the greatest thing about that bottle-rocket-up-the-ass lawsuit is who’s suing who. The plaintiff isn’t the guy who actually had the bottle rocket up his ass; he’s the DEFENDANT. The plaintiff is a bystander who claims he was startled when the bottle rocket went off and then fell off of a deck.

  15. #15 |  Robert | 

    “That “Detroit Comeback” commercial from the Super Bowl wasn’t actually filmed in Detroit.”

    Guess they figured swaths of vacant lots and burned out buildings wasn’t the best backdrop to film a “comeback” commercial…

  16. #16 |  Andrew Roth | 

    The pseudoephedrine case is a prime candidate for jury nullification. Americans need to start recognizing that in cases like these the law is an ass. Sgt. Soronen, for his part, needs to be taken to the woodshed for going on a fishing expedition against someone who posed absolutely no threat to anyone. He sounds like a thug.

    Laws regulating or criminalizing pseudoephedrine possession won’t stop the meth trade; they’ll merely slow it down a bit, if at all, while the business adapts. “Methland” described an alliance of Mexican cartels and Yemeni 7-Eleven franchisees who smuggled pseudoephedrine tablets in from Canada by the truckload, then used a small assembly line to pop them from their packages. More recently, crackdowns on home labs in the Midwest produced “shake-and-bake” operations using soda bottles that can be carried around in a car or on a bike. This is a highly adaptive, innovative business driven by consumer demand.

    It’s true that meth labs are a serious problem, but with the huge supply of licit, pharmaceutical-grade amphetamines already on the market (because amphetamines are being reflexively prescribed to our children regardless of medical indication), the solution is simple: make pharmaceutical-grade amphetamines over-the-counter. No registry, no questions. Treat addiction as a medical problem on a case-by-case basis, just as is done with alcohol addiction.

    The overwhelming reason that it’s amateur hour for meth production is that the whole business has been forced underground, where no one can supervise it. Meth lab operators aren’t in business for the love of science. The bottom will fall out of their market if access to pharmaceutical amphetamines is made hassle-free. The pharmaceuticals will beat them hands down on quality and undercut them on price. At that point, there won’t be any incentive to run a home lab or shake-and-bake operation. Those sectors of the meth business will atrophy, and good riddance.

  17. #17 |  CTD | 

    “So they arrested him for resisting arrest? Comedy.”

    Actually, this is depressingly common in these stories. It’s the dirty cop version of a causality loop. The cops can’t think of any actual crimes the victim committed, so he’s charged with “resisting” an arrest that was taking place… because he resisted arrest.

  18. #18 |  Whim | 

    The shooting of Ramarley Graham by NYC police is just another unfortunate but predictable casualty in the “War on Drugs”.

    Decriminalize possession or sale of marijuana, and a substantial preponderance of the police activity in the War on Drugs would abate.

    Decriminalize possession of ALL drugs labeled as illegal, and the police could go back to just sitting around eating donuts full-time, and getting fatter and fatter, and maybe dying off before they collected their generous pensions.

    And, those of our society that wanted to use illegal drugs to escape reality could do so.

    Can society really afford the cost and the collateral damage from trying to keep people from escaping reality?


    And, I’m not aware that countries, like Holland and Portugal that have decriminalized drugs have gone totally down the crapper.

    Well, at least not because of illegal drugs.

  19. #19 |  Dave Krueger | 

    I say, go ahead and give white people a holiday. Treat it just like Veteran’s Day where the only people who get off from work aren’t veterans, but government employees.

  20. #20 |  Dante | 

    #9 CynicAl said:
    “we all know that a State agent acting in the line of duty has license to kill — that is unsurprising. What is surprising is just how unsurprising it is becoming. I am slowly getting used to the idea that police are a virus among us, ready, willing and able to kill anyone at any moment. Such is the price of civilization, I guess. Does make one wonder if there are any alternatives.”

    There is an alternative. You and I are not allowed to speak of it because we don’t have a “get out of jail free” card that is issued to all police when they kill unarmed people and lie about it.

  21. #21 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    Regarding Arizona;

    There are so many ethnic, special issue, and other small special interest group holidays that they have become a standing joke, and have been since the 1960’s (Tom Lehrer singing about “National Brotherhood Week”, for example). The Arizona legislator who said he hoped the Hispanics would reciprocate for his support of a Hispanic holiday by supporting a White Folks holiday may be a racist jerk, but the story says nothing to support this view.

  22. #22 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “I am slowly getting used to the idea that police are a virus among us, ready, willing and able to kill anyone at any moment. Such is the price of civilization, I guess. ”

    I don’t know, go to Japan. The cops bow to you in the street, and help
    you with your problems, and I could make a strong case they are more “civilized” than we are. So something’s not right about this logic.

  23. #23 |  Felix | 

    @Yizmo Gizmo — The Japanese justice system is also notorious for cops picking up somebody, anybody, holding them for three weeks incommunicado to get a confession, and having a 98% or so conviction rate. US cops are paragons of transparency by comparison.

  24. #24 |  yonemoto | 

    I just don’t think a rhetorical question about a white people’s day is the most effective way to point that out.

    I disagree. But then again, I’m not white.

  25. #25 |  Frank Hummel | 

    “Headline of the day.”

    Well yeah, you’re not supposed to squeeze that sphincter when launching bottle rockets out your rectum. Just keep them buttocks loose and it’ll all be fine.

  26. #26 |  Fascist Nation | 

    1. I am looking forward to a paid Honky Day in AZ. To celebrate my whiteness. To have Russell Pearce and his Nazi sidekick JT Ready lead the parade. But Cecil, aren’t Hispanics invited too?

    2. The story is even more delicious as Carlos Miller was ordered arrested by the cop’s Media Liaison. And she probably ordered the deletion of the video as well. You don’t have to make this stuff up.

  27. #27 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Holy MySpace, Fascist Nation. Your site is like rubbing lemons on the eyes!

  28. #28 |  CSD | 

    #14 Robert
    “Guess they figured swaths of vacant lots and burned out buildings wasn’t the best backdrop to film a “comeback” commercial…”

    So they picked New Orleans?

    “Five years after Hurricane Katrina emptied New Orleans and prompted the largest mass migration in modern American history, the 2010 Census counted 343,829 people living in the still-recovering city, a 29 percent drop since the last head count a decade ago, according to data released today.”

  29. #29 |  CSD | 


    “Isn’t it odd and unique?
    Seein’ people smile wild in the heat
    120 degree
    ‘Cause I wanna be free
    What’s a smilin’ fact
    When the whole state’s racist”

  30. #30 |  MattinCincy | 

    I’m kind of surprised there are no comments about the O’Bama official suggesting the person who broke the drone story probably supports Al Qaeda… in light of the new bill both shitball parties supported and Barry snuck into law on New Years Eve (can’t remember what it’s called) that particular journalist might be on his/her way to becoming the first person to enjoy that law.

  31. #31 |  Xenocles | 

    So somebody proposed a racist holiday, and someone counterproposed a racist holiday? It seems fair to at least start with the assumption that it was a clumsy reductio ad absurdum rather than a symptom of state-wide racism and hatred.

  32. #32 |  BSK | 

    Xenocles and others-

    If you think comparing the request for a Lation-American day to the request for a White Person day is apples to apples, you must also think that the experience of Latino-Americans in Arizona is apples-to-apples comparable to the experience of Whites in Arizona. The request is predicated on the unique history and experience of Latinos in the state, which is marked by oppression and marginalization. There is room to debate whether that validates a “day” and the general purpose and effectiveness of such “days”. But building an opposition on the lack of a day for Whites, a group whose history is not marked by oppression and marginalization, is weak, at best.

  33. #33 |  Xenocles | 

    See, this is exactly my problem. When the entering argument is that a segment of the population has a “unique history and experience” the implication is that the other segments don’t. Themes and holidays that divide the nation into segments don’t help anyone. They just promote the idea that the subject groups are and ought to be permanent others. What we should be doing is taking those experiences, seeing the common themes in our own backgrounds, and fusing it all into a shared culture. Instead we are passively encouraged to think of these experiences as nothing more than “Black history” or something to reflect on once a year during “Latino day.”

    So I agree that it was a clumsy and ineffective rhetorical tactic, but I can see what he might have been trying to get at and I don’t think it’s fair for Radley to link with the text he did or for Fox to use the headline they did without more facts. It was a dumb proposal, but I’m very willing to believe for now that it was never seriously intended (unlike the original).

  34. #34 |  BSK | 


    I disagree with your position but at least there is room to discuss here. And we hashed that out over two posts on an internet blog! I’d like to think that an elected official would be at least a bit better than two anonymous posters. Of course, that is probably just silly of me…

  35. #35 |  Xenocles | 

    On that I think we can agree.

  36. #36 |  albatross | 


    No two groups experiences are the same, and in general, being white, male, Christian, and not poor in the US has been a fairly big win for all of our history, right up to the present day. But in terms of the underlying legal or moral principle, yeah, it’s apples to apples–either it’s okay to write ethnic-group-appreciation day into the law for your favorite ethnic group, or it’s not. Similarly, either it’s okay to organize politics along ethnic lines, or it’s not. It’s easy to see why, say, La Raza isn’t as scary as a large-scale white power movement–whites are already mostly in the driver’s seat, and it’s easy to see how a return to overt white ethnic politics could go badly for everyone. But in terms of the law, and in terms of any moral principle, they’re the same thing.

    Personally, I think ethnic identity politics are a bad thing, whether they’re done by whites or blacks or anyone else. But I don’t see how you can condemn white identity politics and praise black and hispanic identity politics on any basis other than “this group is on my side and that one isn’t.”

  37. #37 |  JOR | 

    #4 is spot on.

  38. #38 |  el coronado | 

    In re that ‘Detroit Comeback’ jive…

    Is it just me, or am I seeing a *whole bunch* of commercials about/shot in Detroit lately? Not just car companies? (H and R freakin’ BLOCK?? WTF?) All trying to sell us on the ridiculous notion that Detroit is (somehow) “making a comeback”, thanks to….oh, I dunno….some unnamed Godlike Benefactor who stepped in and stopped the rising of the oceans and the disintegration of Motown.

    All very nice, I suppose – even if Eastwood’s love sonnet to said Omniscient Unnamed Benefactor was shot in….uh, LA and New Orleans… – but it’s all a crock of shit. Watch ’em closely. The exterior cityscape shots are purtied up best as they can make it, but pay closer attention. We’ll see a shot of a tidy little home, but not the fact that it’s one of 6 homes left standing on a once-crowded street. (or the [probable] fact that the burglar bars and security door went back up the instant filming ended.) A peek at a clean-looking (if oddly deserted) section of downtown, but it lasts all of a second-and-a-half. No shots of the boarded-up windows the ‘people mover’ passes. Not a hint of the windowless abandoned block-wide hotels & skyscrapers with trees growing out of the roofs; or the dozens (hundreds?) of closed schools/hospitals; or the abandoned-for-30-years massive railway station; or the once-mighty Packard factory/Model T factory: abandoned 60+ ago, still standing, as far as I can tell.

    They can try as hard as they want; they can change the name of the place to Blingtown or Glamorville; they can bombard us with “All is well, Remain Calm!” messages 24/7. But that don’t change the fact it’s a stinking, despairing shithole, swirling ever faster down the toilet. The parts that aren’t hopeless, horrific ghettos (“Homes for Sale! $100 and up!”)(Really. see are vast vacant sections that were once thriving neighborhoods (Brush Park comes to mind) now returning to the original prairie. This is a “comeback”? For who? Gophers and pheasants?

    I just wonder why so many companies are trying to put their dress on that pig. Why would they want to associate their brand with the most visible and infamous symbol of urban suicide and decay in America? Golly, it’s almost as if they were being *instructed* to do it…..

  39. #39 |  BSK | 


    I think it comes down to the goals of an “identity politics” movement. If oppression or marginalization is ongoing, it makes perfect sense to rally around that cause. Of course, reasonable people will disagree on what constitutes “oppression” and “marginalization” so claiming that you are opposing such things is not in and of itself a justification for indulging in such politics. It is really hard to weigh in on the legitimacy or the need for an LA day since there was little offered (at least in that article) as to its purpose.