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Saturday, January 14th, 2012
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  1. #1 |  Joshua | 

    Mangosteens and durians are sold openly in California.

  2. #2 |  Bob | 

    “Another sad story about a coerced confession, this time from a 12-year-old.”

    Wow! They jacked a confession from a 12 year old kid. I bet the LEO community is so proud of themselves for that.

    It is incomprehensible that there are Police Investigators that don’t know people will confess to things they didn’t do. That’s like a Mason that can’t tell the difference between a brick and a cinderblock. This is “Investigation 101″ shit. There are 2 ways to view this:

    If these guys are really so inept that they think “No one would falsely confess.” Then they need to be immediately fired for incompetence.

    If they know that people will falsely confess, and attempt to use that to get a confession, then they need to be behind bars.

    So what is it cops, incompetence or criminal behaviour?

  3. #3 |  Zamfries Zedman | 

    On the illegal food one, it looks like Argentina accidentally slipped from the Foie Gras bubble to the Haggis bubble.

  4. #4 |  Stormy Dragon | 

    The illegal food chart is also wrong about Fugu, which is legal in Japan and the United States (it is, however banned in the EU). You just have to go through an apprencticeship and licensing process. There are less than six deaths per year from restaurant accidents involving the fish. Most of the problems with it involve people who get it fishing or through black market sources and then get themselves poisoned because they don’t know what they’re doing.

    It should also be noted that the poison isn’t as deadly as the mythology surrounding the fish suggests. Only 7% of people suffering fugu poisoning actually die from it.

  5. #5 |  Danny | 

    Ha! As an American living in Scotland, I had haggis for supper tonight; and I look forward to having another when Robbie Burns night come around in a few days. That’ll show the American government to stop me from eating my haggis

  6. #6 |  FloO | 

    Thanks for the article by William Anderson. He’s one of the few who calls out blatant judicial and prosecutorial lies and misconduct in NC (Nifong, Nancy Lamb) and GA (Tonya Craft case).

  7. #7 |  bbartlog | 

    Re #2, isn’t horsemeat illegal in the US? Surprised they missed that.

  8. #8 |  Stormy Dragon | 

    #4: Not anymore, one of the things the GOP demanded to agree to the CR at the end of 2011 was that the federal ban on horsemeat be allowed to lapse:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/11/horse-slaughterhouses-may-reopen-after-five-year-ban/

  9. #9 |  Dave | 

    prosecutors openly declared in the infamous Pottawattamie case that: “There is no freestanding constitutional right not to be framed.”
    I am speechless …..

  10. #10 |  some bird lover | 

    It has been alleged that one of Pierre Mitterrand’s last meals was Ortolan, prepared and served in the traditional way. The diner would consume the prepared birds underneath a cloth draped over his head and the plate, presumably to concentrate the aromas.

  11. #11 |  jb | 

    #10,
    It has also been said that they draped the cloth to hide from God.

  12. #12 |  Windy | 

    There is a really simple answer to false confessions due to interrogation methods, and it doesn’t require a recording. It should be the law that no one, ever, gets interviewed or interrogated by police, under ANY circumstances, until a lawyer for the suspect is present, even if the suspect does not ask for an attorney. The police should be allowed only to read the suspect his/her rights and tell the suspect what crime s/he is being arrested for committing. At that point, a guardian ad litem should be with the suspect from the arrest on to insure the police do not ask any questions until an attorney who will represent the suspect is present.

    Then the cops can record the “interview” or not as they see fit, but the suspect will be protected from overzealous questioning.

  13. #13 |  StrangeOne | 

    Windy, that’s nice in theory, but until the coercive culture of police changes it won’t have the desired effect. Look at public defenders, the lawyers that the state is supposed to provide for a fair trial. Their budgets and caseload are purposely far out of proportion to the prosecutors office, and as a result they frequently give bad advice to clients, most often in the form of accepting plea bargains from the prosecutors.

    If the state assigned a guardian ad litem to suspects, expect a few things to happen:

    1) Against individuals the police intend to railroad expect the “interrogation” to be delayed for hours and hours, while the police change shifts and collect OT, the overburdened guardian is forced to wait with the client until or if the police choose to interrogate them.

    2) Before the guardian arrives or after they leave, expect “unofficial” pressure from police while the suspect is retained in a holding cell. Our society already lets sleep deprivation, solitary confinement, and stress positions go as not being torture against suspected terrorists, its only a matter of time till such techniques are used domestically (in some cases Radley comments on I would contend they already are). The police will always have the benefit of the doubt from those who hold them accountable, no one would question if the cops claimed a suspect became agitated and needed to be restrained, separated from others, and woken every 30 minutes to “check on them”.

    So long as the system rewards arrests and convictions, with no discernible punishment for when the police coerce and frame innocent people, then nothing will change.

  14. #14 |  A Critic | 

    @Radley

    “Tastes like suffering.”

    That seems considerably less cruel than the factory farmed meat which you most likely eat. Tortured for less time, better living conditions, better food. Plus each bird is probably sincerely appreciated.

    While I abstain from eating factory farmed meat, the little songbird does tempt me.

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  16. #16 |  Tim | 

    Casu marzu (the maggot cheese) is legal now, as it’s been recognized as a “traditional” food, which is exempt. Mangosteen hasn’t been illegal in the US for a while. The haggis was a surprise, though, given what’s in bologna and sausage…

  17. #17 |  lunchstealer | 

    Wow, the “Ortolan” seems as bad as “Three Screams Rat” in which newborn rats (the little pink hairless rat-shaped-eraser looking things) are picked up with chopsticks (scream 1) dipped in sauce (scream 2) and then eaten alive in one bite (scream 3).

    I should perhaps have guessed that the French would’ve tried to find a way to get in on the ‘most horrifyingly egregious food’ battle.

  18. #18 |  Sean L. | 

    Ortolan reminds me of a great Monty Python sketch —

    “What’s this candy, then, ‘Cruchy Frog’?”
    “Oh, that’s one of our most popular.”
    “Do you even take the bones out?”
    “Well, if we took the bones out it wouldn’t be crunchy then, would it?”

  19. #19 |  2trips | 

    When police told me that my sister had died in a car accident, I did not react at all. I didn’t cry about it until 2 years later.
    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/jan/08/breaking-thomas-they-wouldnt-believe-me/
    These cops assumed this kid murdered his sister because of his nonreaction and he spent 2 years in prison for it and basically fucked his whole life. Goddamn.
    Repeat after me: “I will not be answering any questions. Any questions you have for me can be referred to my attorney.” It should be illegal for police to directly communicate with a suspect once they are in custody, and anything told directly to police before that should be inadmissible. I guess #12 basically said that.

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