After a Pot Raid: “It looks like a terrorist attack on my house.”

Saturday, January 14th, 2012

So who is the bigger threat to the community in this story?

Eric Stevens and cousin Henry Dondle, both longtime Homewood residents, woke this morning along with many of their neighbors to the sound of explosions and shattering glass.

It wasn’t long before scores of officers clad in military fatigues and brandishing assault rifles ordered Stevens and Dondle to the ground where they were restrained, according to Stevens.

Now, more than 10 hours later, bits of shattered glass lay strewn about the living room and outside perimeter of the residence that Stevens shares with his 74-year-old father. The front door is splintered and at least 17 windows were broken. Heat from the flash grenades left char marks on the walls and burned through a hanging curtain. Stevens’s father, a retired Chicago police officer, was returning home from security duty when the event unfolded.

“It looks like a terrorist attack on my house,” Stevens said.

Dondle said police confiscated 20 grams of marijuana and several water pipes. He claims they had a gathering the night before and that the marijuana was for recreational use.

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39 Responses to “After a Pot Raid: “It looks like a terrorist attack on my house.””

  1. #1 |  Lyle Jones | 

    Well, he did have almost an ounce of that evil weed…

  2. #2 |  Bob | 

    Well! I’m glad that all regular crime has been completely eliminated in that area so the Police can devote that much resource to a couple of misdemeanor arrests.

    Good job, officers! Now get in line for your pink slips, because it’s obvious there are WAY too many cops in your area.

    You know, officers, one of you cement heads could have been killed. Is it really worth your LIFE to get a couple of misdemeanor arrests for what really even shouldn’t be crimes? Is this really what you signed on for?

  3. #3 |  perlhaqr | 

    “It looks like a terrorist attack on my house,” Stevens said.

    And Occam’s Razor says…

  4. #4 |  Maggie McNeill | 

    #3: My thoughts exactly.

  5. #5 |  primus | 

    How is this NOT ‘unreasonable search and seizure’?

  6. #6 |  Nipplemancer | 

    All that for less than an ounce and some bongs. Don’t read the comments on that story it’s chock full of assholes saying ‘Well you shouldn’t have broke the law!’

  7. #7 |  marco73 | 

    If the police went to every major university, and attacked every dorm room that held 1 ounce of pot in the above described manner, every campus would look like Stalingrad after the Geman’s surrendered.
    War is hell.

  8. #8 |  Cynical in New York | 

    #6

    Thats why I don’t have any faith that government street thug abuse is going to be curtailed anytime soon. The amount of badge licking, “law and order” types still outnumber those of us who actually value our rights as peaceful citizens.

  9. #9 |  StrangeOne | 

    #5 Because the supreme court says so. Just like the first 9 times they said “separate but equal” didn’t violate the constitution before Brown v. Board of Education. Common sense gets thrown out by what is politically feasible.

    #6 I like those people, It’s fun to ask them if they would have returned a runaway slave to their “owner” in 1860 (that being the law and all) and watch the mental gymnastics begin. Of course sometimes they go full on authoritarian, and answer a definitive “yes” without any hint of sarcasm. The first group are just small minded and will change them when they think everyone else has, the second group are fascists.

  10. #10 |  Bergman | 

    Re: Nipplemancer, #6:

    Why is it that so many people seem to think the appropriate penalty for any lawbreaking is death by torture or life without parole? To them, there’s no difference in how a jaywalker ought to be punished and how a serial killer ought to be punished.

    I wonder how many of them retain their sense of justice when they get hauled in for jaywalking?

  11. #11 |  Rogier | 

    Isn’t it interesting that when cops announce the drugs seized in a pot bust, they suddenly use the metric system? You’ll never hear them talk about how they filled their patrol cars with 70 liters of gas, or how their ass flesh gained four kilos since going on that all-donut diet. But after they find some marijuana, it’s, “Ooh, look, TWENTY GRAMS!” I guess that DOES sound better than saying they destroyed someone’s home over .7 (zero-point-seven) ounce of weed.

  12. #12 |  croaker | 

    The biggest threat to the community has always been tyrants with official imprimatur. That’s supposed to be why the Second Amendment exists — to deal with such threats.

  13. #13 |  jdb79 | 

    #11 – Yes, especially since only one cop (and perhaps American) out of ten understands what a miniscule amount 20 grams is. I’m sure it’s a coincidence.

  14. #14 |  DoubleU | 

    See Radley, your hard work is paying off, they didn’t shoot any dogs this time.

  15. #15 |  Marty | 

    I could see a general contractor buying these guys donuts every day and feeding them contact info for possible raids…

  16. #16 |  BamBam | 

    @15 drug warriors are trying to stimulate the economy via the Broken Window theory.

  17. #17 |  Jonathan | 

    It is a terrorist attack. I’m not afraid of middle eastern terrorists. Im more likely to have my life or liberty taken away by the police. That is why I will be voting for Governor Gary Johnson! Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay rights, Anti war Libertarian candidate who wants to balance the budget and legalize marijuana! Johnson is by far the best steward of tax dollars. He came into office with a huge deficit and left 8 yrs later with a billion dollar surplus. His staff once asked him how he wanted his name read on the state welcome signs. He said Don’t put my name on those signs, If we change them at all put welcome to New Mexico from the citizens of New Mexico so we dont have to spend money to change them in the future. As Governor he raised the speed limit to 75 on the highway and allowed people to buy beer on Sunday saying “this is a choice the people of New Mexico can make for themselves and don’t need the govt telling them on what day they can buy beer.” He understand the proper role of govt to protect you from force or fraud but to otherwise leave you alone unless your actions interfere with the rights of another. Check out Two term(one more than Mitt) Governor Gary Johnson! Dont let the media pick your candidate! Johnson’s socially liberal and fiscally conservative stances will be attractive to democrat and independent voters in the general election, I think he is the man to beat obummer.. Gary Johnson is who we need in the White House. The People’s President!

  18. #18 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    “Stevens’s father, a retired Chicago police officer, was returning home from security duty when the event unfolded.”

    My father is also a retired police officer. We have discussed wrong door raids and other drug war fuck-ups numerous times in the past. Incidentally, he believes the drug war is a waste of time/money and to my knowledge never went out of his way to go after drugs as a cop. When he was on the job, I think he saw that many aspects of the job were bullshit, so he acted accordingly. It was a job, not his life.

    My father also owns a small arsenal of handguns and semiautomatic rifles. He has advised me that if anyone–burglars or police–ever did something like this to his home, it would end very badly for the home invader. I believe he is very serious about this. Narcs need to get this through their skulls, because there are plenty of old retired coppers and soldiers out there who will “react as trained” if this shit happens to them. This shit could get out of hand if LEO’s don’t cease and desist w/ these thuggish tactics.

  19. #19 |  Joanna | 

    @#1: 20 grams is not “almost an ounce.” If he’d been caught with that in the street, they would have made him dump it out and allowed him to go home.

  20. #20 |  Jim Kress | 

    #17 “This shit could get out of hand if LEO’s don’t cease and desist w/ these thuggish tactics.”

    1) I wish it would. These LEO thugs deserve to be treated EXACTLY like they treat us mud people.

    2) If 1) comes true, it will never be reported accurately. The Press/ Media will go out of their way to sanctify the LEO thugs and demonize the mud people victims. Just look at how they handled Waco and Ruby Ridge.

  21. #21 |  Chris | 

    It’s all based on tests the government did on chimps. Your just a chimp in their eyes.

  22. #22 |  Walnut O'Doyle | 

    #17 I don’t think the enthusiastic ones take it that seriously as well. They just know their paycheck depends on the drug war.

    #15 I could also see a man who makes his living selling pot being the biggest prohbitionists on the block. I wish we could count on narcs just being shot by victims of their raids,of everyone did so, they would stop pretty fucking fast as the govt can’t wage an overt war on it’s own people

    #6 a vocal minority, the groups that seems to enjoy other people being oppressed because to do otherwise would mean thinking the police force & military is corrupt and doesn’t have their best interest in mind

  23. #23 |  Art | 

    A nickel weighs 5 grams. THe story would have more impact if it read “Dondle said police confiscated marijuana equivalent in weight to 4 nickels and several water pipes.”

  24. #24 |  Anton Sherwood | 

    Nipplemancer, maybe the first comments were of that kind, but when I look now I see a lot more words like “excessive” and “wasteful”.

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  26. #26 |  Joe Zilch | 

    Maybe this wasn’t a pot raid, maybe it was just an exercise in the broken window fallacy.

  27. #27 |  Gorak | 

    #12 – Don’t worry the second amendment doesn’t really exist, its just a figment of your perceived memory, which of course is incorrect. Anyone ready for 1984?

  28. #28 |  Marty | 

    BamBam- exactly what i was thinking when I saw all the broken windows!

  29. #29 |  John David Galt | 

    How is this NOT “a terrorist attack”? It’s a military-style assault, done for the express purpose of scaring other members of the public into not offending the gang that did it, lest they be next. That’s the definition of terrorism.

    Governments that do this are at war with the people they’re supposed to be working for. John Locke told us what that implies.

  30. #30 |  dunphy | 

    “#17 I don’t think the enthusiastic ones take it that seriously as well. They just know their paycheck depends on the drug war.”

    actually, no. my paycheck doesn’t, and i’m a cop. drug enforcement is a TINY part of my job. lots of cops are ambivalent at best towards mj. i know numerous cops who dump MJ they recover during traffic stops vs. actually filing a criminal case.

    we know that people smoking MJ are almost never the ones assaulting us, robbing stores, or beating their spouses.

    there ARE lots of cops who think it should be illegal, but i think people would be surprised how many line cops (not administrators, but real cops) could not give a flying fuck about MJ and would not care if it was decrim’d or legalized.

    “#15 I could also see a man who makes his living selling pot being the biggest prohbitionists on the block. I wish we could count on narcs just being shot by victims of their raids,of everyone did so, they would stop pretty fucking fast as the govt can’t wage an overt war on it’s own people”

    the drug war is not the fault of narcs. people here and elsewhere who are pro legalization (i am pro legalization) place the blame on narcs. the BLAME lies with the legislators. THEY made it illega and they could legalize it tomorrow.

    in states with strong initiative powers, that is a route as well

    and mark my words, within a few years, we will see a state legalize MJ. it’s inevitable imo, especially because medical MJ has helped normalize it for many, and shown people that the world does not collapse when people can legally use MJ

    narcs are no more to blame for the WOD, than a foot soldier is to blame for our stupid-ass iraq war policy.

    “#6 a vocal minority, the groups that seems to enjoy other people being oppressed because to do otherwise would mean thinking the police force & military is corrupt and doesn’t have their best interest in mind”

    it’s not a matter of best interest or corruption. it’s a matter of bad law – the laws making MJ illegal.

    the legislature could ALSO pass laws that said that it was illegal for cops to do any sort of dynamic raid for MJ offenses. iow, they could make these kind of warrant for pot illegal. tomorrow. they don’t

    it’s within their power. the blame is constantly placed on the wrong people

  31. #31 |  Kirby | 

    In CA, they would’ve been forcing an INFRACTION. basically jay walking.

  32. #32 |  Angry Voter | 

    Half of all deaths from liver failure are caused by acetaminophen (eg Tylenol). Over just the past 10 years it’s killed hundreds of thousands of people in the US alone. But it is crazy profitable and drug companies bribe politicians to keep it legal.

    Deaths from opiates is now at an all time high. When the Taliban ruled Afghanistan, opium production was almost totally eliminated. Since the US occupied Afghanistan, they have shot up to #1 in drug production – 94% of the entire world’s supply comes from Afghanistan. The fields are so big you can see them from space on Google Earth but the US military claims that after 10 years of searching they ‘just can’t find them.’ Ahem. Prescription pain killers are wildly profitable, physically addictive and often deadly. But money buys politicians so opiates are not only legal but a doctor can have them administered to you by force until you become hooked.

    By contrast, cannabis has 0 medically confirmed deaths over the same time period. But people grow their own. No huge company gets rich. No politicians get bribed. So Cannabis is illegal even though medical studies have show it is both safer and more effective than all other commonly available pain relievers.

  33. #33 |  perlhaqr | 

    Angry Voter: You’re basically completely full of shit about opiates. Which means that while you’re completely correct about cannabis, you are actively hurting the cause of cannabis legalisation by looking like a complete moron.

  34. #34 |  (B)oscoH | 

    Angry Voter is also F.o.S. about the number of deaths from acetaminophen. 5,000-ish in the 00s, not hundreds of thousands. Still, probably more deadly than texting and driving.

  35. #35 |  me | 

    What kind of recourse have people exposed to such a raid?

  36. #36 |  JOR | 

    Narcs are to blame for the war on drugs, and foot soldiers are to blame for the war on Iraq. Contract killers are just as responsible for the blood on their hands as their clients.

    Blame isn’t zero-sum.

  37. #37 |  JOR | 

    To add to that: it’s not as if the legislators are maintaining prohibition to spite the pigs. They’re largely beholden to the pigs and their unions (and to the badgelicking enablers). One of the reasons they’ll never end prohibition, in the current environment, is that it would mean the end of their careers at the hands of the pigs/badgelickers.

  38. #38 |  Pi Guy | 

    “Ooh, look, TWENTY GRAMS!” I guess that DOES sound better…

    That’s why, when women ask, I say “20 cm”. Yes, 20 is more than 7. [number just for example; I’m actually much larger than that but don’t want to scare anyone)

    20 g = 5 nickels

    I’d sure love to see that in a byline sometime.

    the drug war is not the fault of narcs

    Agreed. Narcs only do what they do b/c LE has something that the narc wants or needs. Like Big Corp (TM), they’re only taking the favors that Big Gov has to offer. It’s self-preservation or, perhaps, just plain useful to the narc for some other purpose.

    How is this NOT “a terrorist attack”? It’s a military-style assault, done for the express purpose of scaring other members of the public into not offending the gang that did it, lest they be next. That’s the definition of terrorism.

    ^ THIS ^
    IMO, most relevant and yet completely overlooked comment ever.

    The jihadis know that they’re fighting an uphill battle so they have to make their relatively small attacks count big. They’re counting on the publicity and victim-innocence factors to make the attack more frightening and of greater import than it truly is.

    Same for the WoF (War on Flowers). The Big Gov PR Machine needs to make people who use afraid, that they’ll be next. Yes, that is the very definition of terrorism.

  39. #39 |  Cobaco | 

    [quote]the drug war is not the fault of narcs. people here and elsewhere who are pro legalization (i am pro legalization) place the blame on narcs. the BLAME lies with the legislators. THEY made it illega and they could legalize it tomorrow.
    [/quote]

    See this is where I disagree:
    - you can legislate all you want, without the means to enforce it the legislation has no effect
    - it is the willingness of (law) enforcers that gives laws true live (without it every law is stillborn).
    (In other words no dictator is dangerous without followers willing to enforce his dictates)

    When an enforcer says he will enforce every law no matter his personal feelings what he is doing is outsourcing the decision of when to force/risk his life to a 3th party. Worse the entitiy he outsourced it to is a faceless bureaucracy.

    This is a crucial difference between peace officers and (law) enforcement officers. The later have outsourced the decision of when to use force, the former haven’t.

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