Hopefully something real will sprout.

Don’t bank on it. One source knows some folks in the high up. Says lawsuits are not even a remote possibility but assured.

Got another source, says they know two of the shot officers, not the dead one. As well they are holding cards close for now. Oh and this one has no reason to not display, if something breaks, all will filter through Radley for verification if possible.

Not trying to lay a road on sand, just saying things are not as they might appear, especially from the local rag. Time will be required for real info to come to light. Suffice to say, the Ogden rag is full of themselves for now!

Here’s the problem: I’m not a weapons expert, but my understanding is that armor will stop pretty much any handgun round. (Rifles, not so much.)

And Stewart was armed, as even the cops admit, with just one (1) handgun.

So how’d we end up with 1 dead cop, and 5 injured cops? High-speed head & leg shots, done rapid-fire while Stewart was taken by surprise and undoubtedly frantically scrambling for cover? Hmm. Oh, well. Maybe this’ll come up at his trial.

It ain’t workin’ no more.

Its convient that every bit of “proof” regarding this case has either been destroyed by police (with their full admission) or being completely covered from the public.

“Bomb” destroyed on scene for a Halloween party terrorist.
No autopsy for the dead cop to determine ballistics.
All other evidence of law breaking is minor (lights, poting soil).
No word on why the warrent was issued in the first place.
Suspect held at undisclosed location.
His story is either supressed or non-existent because of his unknown condition.
Family and legal counsel is in the dark.

All of this while the police are rabidly trying to paint this man as the second coming of Timothy McVeigh, and the prosecutor has commited to pushing the death penalty before any signifigant understanding of the events could be obtained.

The whole thing stinks to high hell. There are just so many missing pieces to the story and the authorities are already marching in a particularly tight lock-step. If or when Mathew Stewart recovers he can expect a particularly severe railroading by the US Criminal System.

*Immediate surrender might be safer if you know it’s the cops, but in most of these raids they’re deliberately trying to catch you surprised and confused, which makes them very easy to mistake for (unofficial) robbers or whatever. Waiting until you find out who the invaders are before you start shooting is a good way to get yourself killed, whether it’s government criminals or freelance cops. It needs to be remembered that they conduct these raids expecting no serious danger to themselves. When cops think they have a dangerous situation at the outset, they dig in at a safe distance and negotiate a surrender.

I have a theory (uh oh).

The police destroyed the “device” in order to prevent its’ full examination later, where it would have been determined to be safe and just some kind of normal household item (an old Dell PC, perhaps, or a dehumidifier, or some music device, or just a ball of wires?).

This way, who is to say that the police didn’t save the world? Especially when the police are SCREAMING at the tops of their lungs that they saved the world. And there is absolutely no evidence left to disprove that claim, but all the police claim that there was before they were forced to blow it up in order to save the world.

So, we can’t fact-check the police for accuracy. Just the way they want it.

Protect & Serve (Themselves!)

‘Detonating’ it? Inside a house? Yeah, right. Probably caused more damage to the structure than any leaky bag of inert powder could. The police in this case are showing themselves as being both ignorant and stupid.

If I were living in the community paying their salary, I’d want my money back.

1. Nope.
2. Null.
3. No.
4. Nope (again).

Fuck you, government. You can’t have it both ways.

Anyone want to watch this trial play out and then try to defend the premise that the US actually follows the rule of law?

Also, keep a good log of these early reports (which are all bullshit thrown out there to see what sticks). The official story from the police will be dramatically different once they decide what happened and go to trial.

I have heard reports that he was shot 3 times in the shed, after he had already thrown his weapon away and surrendered.

I can’t claim that this is the truth at this point, but it is worth looking into.

From the Salt Lake Tribune article we learned that the prosecutor in this case is “confident” that friendly fire did not cause the injuries. So it couldn’t be a case of fratricide. ‘Cause he’s, like, you know… confident.

The raid was performed by a ‘strike force’, but not necessarily a SWAT team. If the raid party were not armored up, a handgun could at least slow them down (or kill with a well-placed or lucky shot). A suspect who gets the drop on a raid party can run away (to the shed) while the cops are checking for extra holes.

And as we saw in the case of Jose Guerena, even when officers take no fire, they’re hesitant to actually put themselves in real danger.

How could one man, sound asleep and totally unprepared, take out six paramilitary police armed to the teeth and ready to kill?

How did that same man survive the ensuing barrage of retaliatory fire? Cops usually kill when someone aims a gun at them and fires a single round, even if that someone drops the gun right away.

Why was he found in the shed, out in the back yard, when the raid was on the house and all the gunfire was in and around the house? If he was in the shed, what were they shooting at in the house?

Cory Maye got the death penalty.