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Thursday, January 5th, 2012

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  1. #1 |  A Critic | 

    @Aresen

    “The latifundia were a problem not because of the crops that they grew but because they replaced the small-holders, who were the basis of Rome’s citizen army.”

    Both aspects were a problem per the perspective expounded upon in “Topsoil and Civilization”. Comparing the best available descriptions of the land occupied by the Romans before and after their agricultural exploitation provides a stark history lesson.

  2. #2 |  Russ 2000 | 

    I do indeed do so. They trade principle for power, and any apt student of history can foresee where that will go.

    Then you are essentially arguing from a “purity of essence” standpoint. And any apt student of history can foresee where that will go.

  3. #3 |  Mattocracy | 

    I’d like to see some source material about all this GMO allegations. Crops weaker, less healthy? Despite the fact that we humans are larger, stronger and living longer than ever before? Dispite the fact that we are getting a greater yield per acre than we ever have before? Lotta statements being made without evidence to back it up.

  4. #4 |  StrangeOne | 

    These comments are a lot funnier when you decide to never read one persons comments. I can’t take “A Critic” seriously after that last thread where we had to explain concepts like “fertilization” and “renewable resources” to someone who claimed to know a lot about what was best for “the earth” and the imminent doom from “food shortages”.

    I really like the Julian Sanchez article btw. The entertainment industry, somewhat ironically, is legendary for the amount of bullshit they will spin as truth. They would strangle the internet with the false reason of retaining their profits, when they really want to destroy the only real competition to their hegemonic control of culture and information. Of course under the “assume stupidity before malice” principle they may actually think their bill would somehow protect their profits, but I doubt it.

  5. #5 |  A Critic | 

    @Mattocracy

    “I’d like to see some source material about all this GMO allegations. Crops weaker, less healthy?”

    Yep. That’s why you can’t save seeds from GMO crops. They don’t stick.

    “Despite the fact that we humans are larger, stronger and living longer than ever before?”

    Yep. Wendell Berry addresses that much better than I ever could in his essays.

    “Dispite the fact that we are getting a greater yield per acre than we ever have before?”

    Greater yields than ever before yet are we also adding greater amounts of compost and fertilizer? No, we aren’t (I’m not counting the stimulant commonly called fertilizer). Are we increasing the diversity, strength, and health of the soil lifeforms? No we aren’t.

    Imagine a huge bucket filled with 100++ ingredients all necessary to grow plants. Now imagine taking out a ladle full, and throwing 3 ingredients back in. Bigger yields are like a bigger ladle. As the ladling continues you keep adding 3 ingredients, the same 3. How long can you keep removing the essential ingredients of life before there isn’t enough left? Time will tell. Vitamin content of vegetables is already declining 1/3 from it’s former measured value. Increasing outputs without increasing inputs means the system is doomed. It’s incredibly stupid.

    “Lotta statements being made without evidence to back it up.”

    Not nearly as many as made by the state and corporations about how they produce food, and if you look, you shall see what I mean.