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		<title>By: Why &#8220;Criminals&#8221; Should Have Rights Pt 3 &#171; The Blog For Truth, Justice, &#38; The Josh Way</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why &#8220;Criminals&#8221; Should Have Rights Pt 3 &#171; The Blog For Truth, Justice, &#38; The Josh Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] *Police execute a drug raid on an apartment. The tenant is physically assaulted, ending up with a fractured arm and a bruised-up face (as depicted in the picture). The apartment is plundered. Drugs are not found. No arrests are made. An unreasonable search and seizure, with the destroyed property and the unnecessary assault (according to the cops in the story, a necessary assault). [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] *Police execute a drug raid on an apartment. The tenant is physically assaulted, ending up with a fractured arm and a bruised-up face (as depicted in the picture). The apartment is plundered. Drugs are not found. No arrests are made. An unreasonable search and seizure, with the destroyed property and the unnecessary assault (according to the cops in the story, a necessary assault). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;- What with the hollow-core door and crappy locks?

There’s nothing we, as individuals, can do about the first three. However, anyone can take care of the fourth one. Install a solid-core (preferably metal) door, use well-secured hinges, and put high-quality locks on it that secure the top, bottom and center of the opening-side solidly to the wall. It should not be possible for a cop (or anyone else) to punch through your door.&quot;

Good advice. I&#039;ve lately been thinking that the next time I install an exterior door I&#039;ll install it so it opens outward, so that the entire door is supported by the jamb and not just the locks and hinges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;- What with the hollow-core door and crappy locks?</p>
<p>There’s nothing we, as individuals, can do about the first three. However, anyone can take care of the fourth one. Install a solid-core (preferably metal) door, use well-secured hinges, and put high-quality locks on it that secure the top, bottom and center of the opening-side solidly to the wall. It should not be possible for a cop (or anyone else) to punch through your door.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good advice. I&#8217;ve lately been thinking that the next time I install an exterior door I&#8217;ll install it so it opens outward, so that the entire door is supported by the jamb and not just the locks and hinges.</p>
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		<title>By: indio007</title>
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		<dc:creator>indio007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bet if you go look up the warrant at the court it&#039;s sealed now. I would also bet it wasn&#039;t sworn to by an actual witness to the alleged crime as the law required but made &quot;on information and belief&quot; based on an anonymous phone call and a tip from a concerned citizen who will never be found.

This happens all the time.  People need to start suing the judge&#039;s that rubber stamp these bogus warrants . When is the last time you heard of someone doing that? Never. There is no accountability for this crap. The average citizen has become a  a dumb cow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet if you go look up the warrant at the court it&#8217;s sealed now. I would also bet it wasn&#8217;t sworn to by an actual witness to the alleged crime as the law required but made &#8220;on information and belief&#8221; based on an anonymous phone call and a tip from a concerned citizen who will never be found.</p>
<p>This happens all the time.  People need to start suing the judge&#8217;s that rubber stamp these bogus warrants . When is the last time you heard of someone doing that? Never. There is no accountability for this crap. The average citizen has become a  a dumb cow.</p>
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		<title>By: My heroes &#124; Ontoliberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>My heroes &#124; Ontoliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#26 StrangeOne:  Well said!  But if they lie, we can prove they lie and oust them...cept we gotta do it in the liars own court.  I have much faith in the American public to eventuallly see the light and insist that we are in fact the highest court in the land...long after it&#039;s too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 StrangeOne:  Well said!  But if they lie, we can prove they lie and oust them&#8230;cept we gotta do it in the liars own court.  I have much faith in the American public to eventuallly see the light and insist that we are in fact the highest court in the land&#8230;long after it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: FloO</title>
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		<dc:creator>FloO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 05:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are like animals, except they lie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are like animals, except they lie.</p>
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		<title>By: StrangeOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>StrangeOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just remarkable how in denial of reality the authorities are in making their excuses: They maintain the police always announced themselves and their entry, that they never beat people up, and that they had good reason to raid the home in the first place. But the reality is a broken front door, a destroyed home, a beaten man with a broken arm, and not a single arrest made.

If even one element of the official story was true none of this would have happened. The reality is so far removed from the official narrative its impossible to give them the benefit of the doubt on ignorance, they are simply the worst sort of malicious liars.

They are completely unconcerned with their bald faced objection to reality because they know they will never suffer consequences for their actions. No judge will be held accountable for the authorizing the clearly flimsy warrant, no cops will suffer for ganging up on an old man and destroying his home, and none of their superiors or prosecutors will every be called to task for letting such behavior run wild. 

They can do it again tomorrow and every day after that, and so long as they keep telling the same lies, no one of consequence will object.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just remarkable how in denial of reality the authorities are in making their excuses: They maintain the police always announced themselves and their entry, that they never beat people up, and that they had good reason to raid the home in the first place. But the reality is a broken front door, a destroyed home, a beaten man with a broken arm, and not a single arrest made.</p>
<p>If even one element of the official story was true none of this would have happened. The reality is so far removed from the official narrative its impossible to give them the benefit of the doubt on ignorance, they are simply the worst sort of malicious liars.</p>
<p>They are completely unconcerned with their bald faced objection to reality because they know they will never suffer consequences for their actions. No judge will be held accountable for the authorizing the clearly flimsy warrant, no cops will suffer for ganging up on an old man and destroying his home, and none of their superiors or prosecutors will every be called to task for letting such behavior run wild. </p>
<p>They can do it again tomorrow and every day after that, and so long as they keep telling the same lies, no one of consequence will object.</p>
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		<title>By: JOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be unwise to shoot them. Then again there are at least two cases I can think of where a guy shot at the cops invading his home and then surrendered, and may well have survived only because he shot at them - Cory Maye is one of these - but in both of these cases the guys didn&#039;t know it was cops they were shooting at, and surrendered as soon as they found out. I still wouldn&#039;t advise shooting at them, especially if a convincing case can be made to a jury that you know it&#039;s cops you&#039;re shooting at.

But not because it would be &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt; to shoot them. Anyone who shoots a cop busting into his house on a drug warrant (whether or not that warrant is legit or whatever) is doing a good thing that is unfortunately likely to have unpleasant consequences for him. Any cop who gets himself hurt or killed in such a raid brought it on himself and deserves no sympathy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be unwise to shoot them. Then again there are at least two cases I can think of where a guy shot at the cops invading his home and then surrendered, and may well have survived only because he shot at them &#8211; Cory Maye is one of these &#8211; but in both of these cases the guys didn&#8217;t know it was cops they were shooting at, and surrendered as soon as they found out. I still wouldn&#8217;t advise shooting at them, especially if a convincing case can be made to a jury that you know it&#8217;s cops you&#8217;re shooting at.</p>
<p>But not because it would be <i>wrong</i> to shoot them. Anyone who shoots a cop busting into his house on a drug warrant (whether or not that warrant is legit or whatever) is doing a good thing that is unfortunately likely to have unpleasant consequences for him. Any cop who gets himself hurt or killed in such a raid brought it on himself and deserves no sympathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Balko, do you still think they shouldn&#039;t be shot as they come through the door? (the police, that is).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balko, do you still think they shouldn&#8217;t be shot as they come through the door? (the police, that is).</p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#19 &#124;  Dan &#124;  &quot;Pretty handy thing; to not maintain a record of raids that don’t result in an arrest.&quot;

It does seem odd.  If nothing else, the police should maintain a record so that someone who was raided could find out whether the people who attacked him were on the government payroll, or were private free-lancers.  In the latter state, the government would probably want to take action against the robbers, but if it&#039;s not possible to distinguish the private robbers from the government-sponsored kind, taking action against the free-lancers would be difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 |  Dan |  &#8220;Pretty handy thing; to not maintain a record of raids that don’t result in an arrest.&#8221;</p>
<p>It does seem odd.  If nothing else, the police should maintain a record so that someone who was raided could find out whether the people who attacked him were on the government payroll, or were private free-lancers.  In the latter state, the government would probably want to take action against the robbers, but if it&#8217;s not possible to distinguish the private robbers from the government-sponsored kind, taking action against the free-lancers would be difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Dempsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ a_random_guy 

That is when they would just drive a tank through your house.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ a_random_guy </p>
<p>That is when they would just drive a tank through your house.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@15 Arthur:

&quot;So the issuance and execution of the warrant are not part of the public record? Is he trying to say that any police action short of arrest creates no record?&quot;

I caught that too. Pretty handy thing; to not maintain a record of raids that don&#039;t result in an arrest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15 Arthur:</p>
<p>&#8220;So the issuance and execution of the warrant are not part of the public record? Is he trying to say that any police action short of arrest creates no record?&#8221;</p>
<p>I caught that too. Pretty handy thing; to not maintain a record of raids that don&#8217;t result in an arrest.</p>
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		<title>By: picachu</title>
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		<dc:creator>picachu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yizmo Gizmo &quot;One of the tragedies of the Prohibition debacle was that people starting hating police.&quot;

That doesn&#039;t sound like a tragedy to me. it&#039;s a shame that attitude didn&#039;t last and increase until the public eventually demanded and end to before it came to where it is today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yizmo Gizmo &#8220;One of the tragedies of the Prohibition debacle was that people starting hating police.&#8221;</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t sound like a tragedy to me. it&#8217;s a shame that attitude didn&#8217;t last and increase until the public eventually demanded and end to before it came to where it is today.</p>
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		<title>By: JSL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What’s needed is for some massive Ryan Frederick-like episode, except where they hit some Tier 1 operator’s household and wipe out half his family and he goes berserk in retaliation (and survives).&quot;

The movie Law Abiding Citizen touched on that. Sadly, the ending wasn&#039;t that satisfying as the DAs were still alive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What’s needed is for some massive Ryan Frederick-like episode, except where they hit some Tier 1 operator’s household and wipe out half his family and he goes berserk in retaliation (and survives).&#8221;</p>
<p>The movie Law Abiding Citizen touched on that. Sadly, the ending wasn&#8217;t that satisfying as the DAs were still alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Romantic Violence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romantic Violence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a matter of rule instead of the exception. Alexandr Solzhenitsyn? Anybody? Is anyone familiar with Gulag Archipelago? That&#039;s when our lot will change. For millennium, people have always complied and submitted to the will of a very small minority so therefore, nothing has changed nor will it change. People have not given the police or any other alphabet soup security agency, a viable reason not to brutalize, humiliate, and kill you. Until you assert yourselves, the police believe that you like it.

1789]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a matter of rule instead of the exception. Alexandr Solzhenitsyn? Anybody? Is anyone familiar with Gulag Archipelago? That&#8217;s when our lot will change. For millennium, people have always complied and submitted to the will of a very small minority so therefore, nothing has changed nor will it change. People have not given the police or any other alphabet soup security agency, a viable reason not to brutalize, humiliate, and kill you. Until you assert yourselves, the police believe that you like it.</p>
<p>1789</p>
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		<title>By: derfel cadarn</title>
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		<dc:creator>derfel cadarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is glaringly apparent that the J in J. Paul Vance stands for jerkoff. This is an example of disinformation at its best,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is glaringly apparent that the J in J. Paul Vance stands for jerkoff. This is an example of disinformation at its best,</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Lt. J. Paul Vance, spokesman for the state police, said he had no record of state police action anywhere in New Haven on Wednesday. That doesn’t mean that a search warrant wasn’t executed, he said. He’d have a record if an arrest were made, he said.&quot;

So the issuance and execution of the warrant are not part of the public record?  Is he trying to say that any police action short of arrest creates no record?  WTF is this guy talking about?  Might as well admit that despite his state compensation, job title, and documented duties as the department spokesperson he considers it his duty to impede the dissemination of information between the department and the public.  God, Orwell was a fucking prophet!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lt. J. Paul Vance, spokesman for the state police, said he had no record of state police action anywhere in New Haven on Wednesday. That doesn’t mean that a search warrant wasn’t executed, he said. He’d have a record if an arrest were made, he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the issuance and execution of the warrant are not part of the public record?  Is he trying to say that any police action short of arrest creates no record?  WTF is this guy talking about?  Might as well admit that despite his state compensation, job title, and documented duties as the department spokesperson he considers it his duty to impede the dissemination of information between the department and the public.  God, Orwell was a fucking prophet!</p>
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		<title>By: marco73</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scalia&#039;s new professionalism in action.

And the first spokesman was stupid enough to talk to the press before checking on any details of the raid? What the hell do they pay that guy for? Comic relief?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scalia&#8217;s new professionalism in action.</p>
<p>And the first spokesman was stupid enough to talk to the press before checking on any details of the raid? What the hell do they pay that guy for? Comic relief?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an idea mister polyester costume man, don&#039;t want to feel threatend, stay the hell home.]]></description>
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		<title>By: gyuyuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>gyuyuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sit and gawk at freedom, the tyranny and death you spread through the world creeps ever closer to home]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sit and gawk at freedom, the tyranny and death you spread through the world creeps ever closer to home</p>
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