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Tuesday, December 20th, 2011
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  1. #1 |  Roho | 

    Love this comment from the FdL Assault Vehicle article. Was going to add my own commentary, but really, I think it speaks for itself:

    “Wow – ok, all those of who have never been in law enforcement can sit down and shut up since you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Get a job that requires you to deal with criminals who are trying to kill and then come talk about how this is not necessary.”

  2. #2 |  Cynic in New York | 

    #1

    Got to love government boot lickers

  3. #3 |  Mattocracy | 

    The NMA is a good organization. Seriously.

  4. #4 |  Marty | 

    re the NMA article: ‘Trying to enforce such a ban would be a nightmare for both motorists and for the police.’

    I doubt the cops will lose any sleep gaining another tool to put in their ‘fuck with people’ toolbox…

  5. #5 |  Charlie O | 

    “But, he said, a recent uptick in aggressive-dog incidents has police officials concerned about officer safety.”

    That’s their take away from this incident. We got be more concerned about our guys????!!??? After shooting a dog on a chain? Fuck’n cowards. Every last low life piece of shit scum of them.

  6. #6 |  Max | 

    NMA article: driving in Nebraska, Missouri & Iowa I have seen:
    a woman driving playing the guitar (both hands on the guitar)
    Multiple drivers with newspapers or laptops propped on their steering wheels
    Multiple drivers holding dogs or children on their laps
    a couple with the man driving with a naked woman sitting on his lap facing him.
    I could go on but I’m sure all of you have seen worse. The point is you cannot legislate away stupidity

  7. #7 |  MassHole | 

    You can’t expect these roided up clowns to get all tacticool and not shoot something. What’s the point of slinging an AR and putting on kevlar if you can’t shoot a defenseless animal in front of a 3 year old. Actual police work is lame too. The intended targets hadn’t lived there for 3 years, but that’s not relevant or anything.

  8. #8 |  Marty | 

    great article on Havel.

  9. #9 |  Marty | 

    I feel horrible that the puppycide article doesn’t enrage me. We should be breaking out baseball bats and industrial sized barrels of tar and pallets of feathers for shit like this. I guess It’s just business as usual.

  10. #10 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Get a job that requires you to deal with criminals who are trying to kill and then come talk about how this is not necessary.

    Done. I travel and have to deal with TSA, US Customs, and cops daily.

  11. #11 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    a couple with the man driving with a naked woman sitting on his lap facing him.

    I saw that movie, too.

    Regarding pups in your lap: I paid ~$100 and got my doxie licensed as a service animal (I’m dyslexic) and he sits on my lap with no problems. Stop trying to claim anything but 10-n-2 hand position is unsafe.

  12. #12 |  Juice | 

    The cop who shot the chained dog is a complete POS, but I’m having trouble believing that a 3 year old knew enough about what was going on to plead “don’t shoot my dog.” That part sounds made up. I don’t doubt that a 3 yo was nearby and probably crying and extremely upset, but I can’t see a 3 yo behaving in the manner described.

  13. #13 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    If being US President messes with your head, even with all
    the criticism from the other side, or stalkers, or the press, imagine what being dearleader-greatperson-superiorleader-adnauseum does to you.
    No wonder his heart exploded.

  14. #14 |  Elliot | 

    We laugh at the insane worship of Kim Jong-il, but during the 2008 campaign and soon after the election, there were a number of disturbing videos of children singing or rapping dear leader style propaganda (which twisted adults had trained them to sing/speak). One song was even a variation of a song about Jesus. Then there were all the celebrities who fell all over themselves to outdo one another in their pro-Obama fervor. It’s a tossup whether the Ashton-Demi pledge to serve the president was more pathetic than the “mourners” shown on North Korean TV this week. I consider any true believer Democrat advocate to be a lunatic who should always be carefully watched for signs of violent intent, because the media and popular culture will generally suppress any alarm until it’s too late.

    At least with Republicans, we’ll get plenty of warnings (most exaggerated or fabricated) before they get truly dangerous.

  15. #15 |  Skip | 

    Fond du Lac is nowhere near Minnesota. This is for when the FIBs (F*cking Illinois Bastards) overrun Milwaukee and try to advance to the Fox River Valley.

  16. #16 |  Rune | 

    @Juice

    You have not read the article properly. If you reread it carefully, you will find that the one who pleaded with the cops not to shoot the dog was Christa Turner the 25 yo mother of the 3 yo girl and daughter to Kimberly Clark who is the resident and owner of the dog.

    “If the officer felt threatened by my dog, he had time to back off. I kept hearing my child saying over and over, ‘Please don’t shoot my dog,’” Clark said. “My dog was my best friend,” she said.

    Clark’s daughter, Christa Turner, 25, said several police vehicles drove up quickly and officers jumped out.

    “The dog started barking and my 3-year-old daughter ran toward the dog,” Turner said. “An officer pulled out a gun and I started yelling over and over, ‘Please don’t shoot my dog.’”

    Turner said she and her child were about three feet from the dog when the officer shot it in the leg

  17. #17 |  Bob | 

    Well, so the guy hasn’t lived there in 3 years, and of course nothing is found during a search. And then of course, there’s the whole shooting the chained up dog.

    How is this not TOTAL INCOMPETENCE? With all the cops doing this stupid shit, who is investigating actual crimes? Oh… that’s right. No one.

    I want my tax dollars back. I’m not getting good value for the money.

  18. #18 |  croaker | 

    To put it bluntly, puppycide will not end until dead dog results in dead cop. Shooting is too quick and not painful enough.

    Lower him into a vat of twenty-molar hydrochloric acid. Feet first. At the rate of a tenth-inch per minute.

  19. #19 |  H. Rearden | 

    #11 | Boyd Durkin

    a couple with the man driving with a naked woman sitting on his lap facing him.

    I saw that movie, too.

    Regarding pups in your lap: I paid ~$100 and got my doxie licensed as a service animal (I’m dyslexic) and he sits on my lap with no problems. Stop trying to claim anything but 10-n-2 hand position is unsafe.

    You miss his point, Boyd. You’re all upset because he thinks that you driving with a dog on your lap is stupid? He wants you to be free from police harassment as you engage in your harmless (mostly) stupidity.

    A serious question: Suffering from dyslexia, how do you get ‘service animal’ designation for your dog? Does the dog read for you? Or is this just your way to force restauranteurs to allow you to take your dog into their restaurants?

  20. #20 |  Mattocracy | 

    I’m sure that shooting a cop after he shoots a dog will make cops stop shooting dogs. Cause cops always learn their lesson when they do something terrible, never make excuses, or punish people for resisting.

  21. #21 |  Juice | 

    #16 Rune,

    Ah! I stand corrected. I need to read more slowly next time.

    Carry on.

  22. #22 |  Juice | 

    Lower him into a vat of twenty-molar hydrochloric acid. Feet first. At the rate of a tenth-inch per minute.

    There’s no such thing as 20 M HCl. The maximum concentration for aqueous HCl is about 37% by mass, which works out to about 12 M.

  23. #23 |  KBCraig | 

    There’s going to come a day when someone shoots a cop who shoots their dog, and is acquitted.

  24. #24 |  Chris C. | 

    Thank you for the mention of Ron Smith, to whom I listened for all of the 27 years he was a talk radio host. One minor quibble. While he certainly had some libertarian views, he preferred the term “paleoconservative”. That was how he referred to himself.

  25. #25 |  “It’s what happened to more than 3,000 people last year…” | 

    [...] Might it be time to abolish the National Transportation Safety Board? It’s supposed to serve as an authoritative source on the causes of accidents, but last week its chief, calling for a nationwide ban on cellphone use by drivers, was not just non-authoritative but actively misleading. I explain in a new post at Cato at Liberty (& Instapundit, Balko). [...]

  26. #26 |  Dante | 

    #23 KB Craig:

    Neither you nor your great-grandchildren will live to see that day.

    Why?

    Those who are responsible for changing the laws/practices which allow such corruption are the very same people benefitting from all that corruption.

    In other words, you can’t convince a government employee to derail his own gravy train.

  27. #27 |  Whim | 

    Regarding the SWAT vehicle acquired for $260K by the Fond du Lac police, I estimate that the vehicle is resistant to only small arms fire.

    A .50 caliber BMG Barrett firing Armor Piercing rounds would make police life inside that overpriced hulk nasty, brutish, and short. The AP round would tend to rattle around inside the vehicle, carving up the policemen into chunks of roughly butchered meat, armored vest or no armored vest.

    Regarding the puppycide, somehow the postman didn’t need to shoot the dog in his/her daily mail deliveries. Serving a SWAT team warrant on a three year vacated former address is almost more embarrassing than shooting a chained dog. Almost.

  28. #28 |  omar | 

    Lower him into a vat of twenty-molar hydrochloric acid. Feet first. At the rate of a tenth-inch per minute.

    A .50 caliber BMG Barrett firing Armor Piercing rounds would make police life inside that overpriced hulk nasty, brutish, and short.

    You guys are starting to sound like the folks on the cop boards. Please don’t stoop to their level.

  29. #29 |  Jay | 

    Boyd Durkin,

    I’m really curious how a service animal helps you with dyslexia, especially while driving.

    Can you please provide some info?

    Thanks.

  30. #30 |  SamK | 

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Cop-Shot-While-Shooting-at-Dog-96564864.html

    and, better in my book:

    http://www.infowars.com/police-officer-shot-dead-after-pointing-stun-gun-at-mans-dogs/

  31. #31 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    I’m really curious how a service animal helps you with dyslexia, especially while driving.

    Can you please provide some info?

    No. I’ve said too much. All I need is for some local News Team to queer the sweet deal me and Snickers have. No way I’m stopping the gravy train.

  32. #32 |  Elliot | 

    KBCraig (#23):There’s going to come a day when someone shoots a cop who shoots their dog, and is acquitted.

    At which point the director will yell, “cut”. Upon release, politicians and police will denounce the movie as “inflammatory” but secretly chuckle at the naiveté of anyone who expects the “brave men in blue” to be held accountable like you or I would be.

  33. #33 |  Elliot | 

    To those posting comments ruminating in detail on ways that a certain class might suffer violence: you might want to think before putting up such things for public view on a popular website. Another former blogger was raided and had a large amount of property taken by LEOs for writing what was incorrectly perceived as threatening violence on government officials after the Tucson incident.

    But even if it doesn’t come to that, you ought to consider the fact that you don’t own this website and, from my vantage point, I see such comments as disrespectful to the man who does. Radley can speak for himself, but judging from past remarks, I’m guessing he doesn’t want such things here.

    You could always create your own website and put up whatever fantasies you like.

    Just a suggestion.

  34. #34 |  el coronado | 

    @#33:

    An excellent suggestion, at that. Whatever you folks may or may not be planning to do or not do, take a lesson from the pros: the brave LEO’s who put their roided-up lives on the line every day, what with facing chained dogs and disrespectful proles and such.

    1) never leave a paper trail that can be used against you. (and they can ALL be used against you.) if one exists, destroy it forthwith.
    2) say/write not one damn word. if you’re in jail, not one damn word even to your lawyer – they’ll be (illegally) listening in.
    3) trust no one. *especially* not the computers in your phone, car, tablet or laptop: they’re “watching” you 24/7. see item #1.
    4) lovely, lovely, anonymous cash is King.
    5) if you’re in a group of like-minded individuals, spitballing ideas back and forth, the guy who’s agitating for violent and/or illegal action is always the cop/fed/rat.

    Just a few suggestions. When in doubt, learn from the best, right?

  35. #35 |  Blaze Miskulin | 

    Regarding the Fond du Lac APC:

    The Fond du Lac County Sheriff’s Department says it has become the nation’s first law enforcement agency to buy a $220,000 Oshkosh Corp. tactical vehicle that’s based on a military truck used in the mountains of Afghanistan.

    (emphasis added)

    Oshkosh Corp. is based in Oshkosh, WI–just up the road from Fond du Lac. This isn’t about police safety or SWAT raids, this is far more simple: It’s a local city giving tax dollars to a local company. It’s also about putting out lots of press releases so that they get lots of attention in the news. That’s a lot free advertising for local industry.

  36. #36 |  Elliot | 

    el coronado (#34):if you’re in a group of like-minded individuals, spitballing ideas back and forth, the guy who’s agitating for violent and/or illegal action is always the cop/fed/rat

    That’s a pretty safe bet, which is the first thing I think of whenever I see a news story about an alleged conspiracy being foiled. It’s stupid and counter-productive to cross the line and give them an easy way to portray you as dangerous and violent. By design, the machine will easily grind you up if you put yourself in such a position.

    I’d much rather approach these problems with non-violent civil disobedience. Get out in front of the cameras and let others see the nature of the oppressors.

    But, more than anything, my comment was more about manners and respect when writing things on another person’s website.

  37. #37 |  Charlie O | 

    #23 KBCraig. I’m with you. The shooter (of the dog killing cop) would get a pass from me on any jury I’d be on. The problem is, no prosecutor will EVER knowingly let me serve on a jury.

  38. #38 |  David C | 

    My favorite part of the dog shooting story is the part where they didn’t actually *kill* the dog, just wounded it in the leg, and it was subsequently euthanized by a veterinarian. What was the point of shooting it again? (How is this not animal cruelty?)

    Almost as disturbing is the allegation that the dog owner and her 3-year-old child were 3 feet from the dog when it was shot (how is this not child endangerment?), but that has some chance of being inaccurate memory on the witnesses’ part.

  39. #39 |  plutosdad | 

    How they hell can the police justify shooting a chained up dog, where there was time for the little kid and the mother to run up to the dog and shout don’t shoot him? That is not a split second decision before the officer knew it was chained.

    A person who shoots a chained up dog is nothing but a thug who gets enjoyment from killing. What other explanation could there be? This is not hunting, this is not a case where someone was afraid for their life. This is just plain killing for fun.

  40. #40 |  Cyto | 

    From the comments of the puppycide article:

    kimberlaya5400
    1. This sweet pooch was loved by the neighbors.
    2. The end of the leash is about three car lengths from the front door.
    3. Technically, the leash was tied to a tree in my mother’s yard, next door, and it is more in the side of the yard rather than the front. (refutes sudden lunging)
    4. When the officer pulled out the gun, my children, who were right there, begged him not to shoot. (refutes unexpected or surprise attack)
    5. They had a search warrant for “cocaine and drug legers” and after searching for hours, found no such thing. Also, because they had a search warrant, they watched my house for a long time, knowing full well he was no threat.
    6. When shot, Spook was bleeding, and they refused to let us help him or take him to a vet.
    7. two hours after shooting, they took him to a vet in Long Beach. The vet said that he did not have the skill or equipment to try to save him.
    8. without consulting with me, GPPD authorized putting to sleep.
    9. GPPD took Spook from the vet, and did not return him to me.
    10. I feel lost without my baby boy. I feel violated and unprotected

  41. #41 |  Pi Guy | 

    re: Ron Smith

    Radley,

    Know I’m late chiming in what with the holidays and all but wanted to say that I’ve been listening to Dr. Reason for about 10 years. I can’t say for sure which Reason contributor I heard first on his show, as you guys are on thhere all the time, but thhe bottom line is that I found Reason.com, CATO, AEI, the Koch Bros (BTW: your “Fighting Koch Whores” logo is my Desktop Bkgrd at the office!), Keynes v. Hayek, the folly of the WoD, WoT, War on Drunk Driving, Prostitution, the raping of the F-ing Constitution, and, of course, increase of use of force by police. Simply, I’ve become a philosiphical libertarian – IOW: found out about you – b/c of all I’ve been exposed to, and all that I’ve had to consider as a result, of listening to Ron Smith almost every day for a decade.

    It’s been a sad week here in the Balto area. It’s good to see that his reach extended so far but we lost one of the good guys.

    Pi

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