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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Pugnacious</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2728283</link>
		<dc:creator>Pugnacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Haynes testified for the prosecution, claiming that the stress from the barfight caused the assailant&#039;s heart attack, while admitting that the  assailant suffered from chronic heart disease. The only “weapon” used in the barfight was a broken barstool leg.




http://packet-media.com/2011/01/13/mary-sue-shields-letter-to-the-editor/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Haynes testified for the prosecution, claiming that the stress from the barfight caused the assailant&#8217;s heart attack, while admitting that the  assailant suffered from chronic heart disease. The only “weapon” used in the barfight was a broken barstool leg.</p>
<p><a href="http://packet-media.com/2011/01/13/mary-sue-shields-letter-to-the-editor/" rel="nofollow">http://packet-media.com/2011/01/13/mary-sue-shields-letter-to-the-editor/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pugnacious</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2728237</link>
		<dc:creator>Pugnacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is there never any mention of  Forrest Allgood and Judge Jim Kitchens in the Mary Sue Shields case, when criticising the malicious prosecution and judicial misconduct that was evident in  sending her to prison for life without parole.

Shields was found guilty of first degree murder for having defended herself from a drunken assilant on the dancefloor at a Columbus city jukejoint  on a New Yeras Eve night.

Dr. Haynes testified for the prosecution, claiming that the stress from the barfight caused his heart attack, while admitting that the &quot;victim&quot; suffered from heart disease. The only &quot;wepon&quot; used in the barfight was a broken barstool leg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there never any mention of  Forrest Allgood and Judge Jim Kitchens in the Mary Sue Shields case, when criticising the malicious prosecution and judicial misconduct that was evident in  sending her to prison for life without parole.</p>
<p>Shields was found guilty of first degree murder for having defended herself from a drunken assilant on the dancefloor at a Columbus city jukejoint  on a New Yeras Eve night.</p>
<p>Dr. Haynes testified for the prosecution, claiming that the stress from the barfight caused his heart attack, while admitting that the &#8220;victim&#8221; suffered from heart disease. The only &#8220;wepon&#8221; used in the barfight was a broken barstool leg.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2294089</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#039;t the Mississippi Supreme Court just do it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t the Mississippi Supreme Court just do it?</p>
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		<title>By: NAME REDACTED</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2283336</link>
		<dc:creator>NAME REDACTED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Militarization? 
Police, by definition, are paramilitary.  They are the standing army our forefathers warned us about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Militarization?<br />
Police, by definition, are paramilitary.  They are the standing army our forefathers warned us about.</p>
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		<title>By: JOR</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2278729</link>
		<dc:creator>JOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 04:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#11, Society could muddle on just fine without anyone, including the next Einstein. Nobody matters in the big picture. That&#039;s why fuck the big picture, and fuck society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11, Society could muddle on just fine without anyone, including the next Einstein. Nobody matters in the big picture. That&#8217;s why fuck the big picture, and fuck society.</p>
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		<title>By: Fascist Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2278218</link>
		<dc:creator>Fascist Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mississippi Supreme Court admonishes DA Forrest Allgood&quot;

Mighty white of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mississippi Supreme Court admonishes DA Forrest Allgood&#8221;</p>
<p>Mighty white of them.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2276038</link>
		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mo,

I have no problem with the leaking of the Climategate emails. I would also have no problem if the people who had sent them had erased them, and there was nothing there. The real issue that I have with the Climategate nitwits is that they are supposed to be scientists, and as such they are supposed to be willing to share raw data, so that others can check their work, and they have consistently stonewalled.

Everybody else; you have good points. I think, on reflection, that you are probably right, and my gut reaction was wrong. I still have doubts about the kind of people who are willing to work in that kind of fishbowl, but then I&#039;m 50, and my parents were even older than that would suggest, since they were in their mid 30&#039;s when I was born. I didn&#039;t grow up with email, and probably consider it more ephemeral than it really is. I was raised by people accustomed to far more privacy from prying fools than we enjoy today. And, of course, if the emails are open for examination by upright sensible people, they are also open for examination by fools.

I still think that the public purse will be less hard hit by the deletion of the emails (if it cost just $100,000) than by a media feeding frenzy over undeleted emails, but that&#039;s probably a price we should pay.

If, and I say *IF*, deleting the emails was legal (which, from what I&#039;ve read on this story isn&#039;t settled), though, I think that what the deletion proves is that Romney isn&#039;t an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo,</p>
<p>I have no problem with the leaking of the Climategate emails. I would also have no problem if the people who had sent them had erased them, and there was nothing there. The real issue that I have with the Climategate nitwits is that they are supposed to be scientists, and as such they are supposed to be willing to share raw data, so that others can check their work, and they have consistently stonewalled.</p>
<p>Everybody else; you have good points. I think, on reflection, that you are probably right, and my gut reaction was wrong. I still have doubts about the kind of people who are willing to work in that kind of fishbowl, but then I&#8217;m 50, and my parents were even older than that would suggest, since they were in their mid 30&#8242;s when I was born. I didn&#8217;t grow up with email, and probably consider it more ephemeral than it really is. I was raised by people accustomed to far more privacy from prying fools than we enjoy today. And, of course, if the emails are open for examination by upright sensible people, they are also open for examination by fools.</p>
<p>I still think that the public purse will be less hard hit by the deletion of the emails (if it cost just $100,000) than by a media feeding frenzy over undeleted emails, but that&#8217;s probably a price we should pay.</p>
<p>If, and I say *IF*, deleting the emails was legal (which, from what I&#8217;ve read on this story isn&#8217;t settled), though, I think that what the deletion proves is that Romney isn&#8217;t an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Stick</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2276000</link>
		<dc:creator>Stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect Vincent Rowell may have died as a result of two horrid diseases combined - AfricanAmericanism and Contemptofcop. There seems to be a bit of that going around these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect Vincent Rowell may have died as a result of two horrid diseases combined &#8211; AfricanAmericanism and Contemptofcop. There seems to be a bit of that going around these days.</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2275130</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 22:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C. S. P. Schofield,

As pointed out in #36, there is no expectation of privacy regarding email communications.  Your &quot;bug&quot; analogy isn&#039;t the same as long as you mean the bugging is a covert act, and thus you would have an expectation of privacy regarding audio (or visual) communications.

Private companies and public institutions usually have logon disclaimers designating the email policy (as well as other policies regarding use of their computers).  They might also have courses and HR orientation regarding such use.  FOIA requests have become so prevalent that most everyone should know by now that their email communications offer no guarantee of privacy.  Romney certainly knew this, otherwise he wouldn&#039;t have gone to the lengths he did to delete the emails.  I don&#039;t necessarily have a problem with Romney buying the hard drives (other than using public funds); however, I have a huge problem with deleting the emails off the servers.  I wonder if he was thorough enough and deleted any backups.

As #15 said, maintaining a record of past emails is for purposes other than a fishing expedition by opponents.  For all we know, they could contain evidence that could be used to exonerate an individual x number of years from now, and have nothing to do with Team Red/Blue politics.

Even if Romney had mostly libertarian views, I doubt I could vote for someone who does this kind of crap.  Mike Huckabee did the same thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. S. P. Schofield,</p>
<p>As pointed out in #36, there is no expectation of privacy regarding email communications.  Your &#8220;bug&#8221; analogy isn&#8217;t the same as long as you mean the bugging is a covert act, and thus you would have an expectation of privacy regarding audio (or visual) communications.</p>
<p>Private companies and public institutions usually have logon disclaimers designating the email policy (as well as other policies regarding use of their computers).  They might also have courses and HR orientation regarding such use.  FOIA requests have become so prevalent that most everyone should know by now that their email communications offer no guarantee of privacy.  Romney certainly knew this, otherwise he wouldn&#8217;t have gone to the lengths he did to delete the emails.  I don&#8217;t necessarily have a problem with Romney buying the hard drives (other than using public funds); however, I have a huge problem with deleting the emails off the servers.  I wonder if he was thorough enough and deleted any backups.</p>
<p>As #15 said, maintaining a record of past emails is for purposes other than a fishing expedition by opponents.  For all we know, they could contain evidence that could be used to exonerate an individual x number of years from now, and have nothing to do with Team Red/Blue politics.</p>
<p>Even if Romney had mostly libertarian views, I doubt I could vote for someone who does this kind of crap.  Mike Huckabee did the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2274607</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah yes, the evil of actually making end-user prices more strongly resemble  what&#039;s charged to them, rather than adding a myriad of fees.

...

Sigh. Prices advertised to consumers in shops should include *all* relevant taxes (Sure, the internet means you can&#039;t really do that there with your tax system).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the evil of actually making end-user prices more strongly resemble  what&#8217;s charged to them, rather than adding a myriad of fees.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Sigh. Prices advertised to consumers in shops should include *all* relevant taxes (Sure, the internet means you can&#8217;t really do that there with your tax system).</p>
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		<title>By: Just Plain Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2274594</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Plain Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C. S. P. Schofield,

It&#039;s well established that an employer has every right to read the work emails of their employees.  This should be no different, as they are supposed to work for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. S. P. Schofield,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s well established that an employer has every right to read the work emails of their employees.  This should be no different, as they are supposed to work for us.</p>
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		<title>By: A.G. Pym</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2274241</link>
		<dc:creator>A.G. Pym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somewhat OT:

Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Phillippa Boyens have a new documentary about the West Memphis Three coming.

They also funded the DNA testing for the three men.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52167]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat OT:</p>
<p>Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Phillippa Boyens have a new documentary about the West Memphis Three coming.</p>
<p>They also funded the DNA testing for the three men.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52167" rel="nofollow">http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52167</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2273998</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C. S. P. Schofield,

So I take it you&#039;re opposed to all of the leaks related to Climategate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. S. P. Schofield,</p>
<p>So I take it you&#8217;re opposed to all of the leaks related to Climategate?</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2273888</link>
		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK; those of you who don&#039;t like my position (for which I respect you, but disagree), how (by both degree and kind) is mandating the preservation of emails different from requiring that the administrative offices be bugged and the recordings made a matter of public record? I&#039;ll admit that my emails are perhaps more causal than those of a full time desk-jockey, but emails strike me as less formal than paper correspondence. If it becomes a matter of policy to preserve the emails - casual interactions - of administration workers, what kind of people are we going to be able to get for those jobs?

I&#039;m not absolutely convinced  I&#039;m in the right here. Convince me that I&#039;m not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK; those of you who don&#8217;t like my position (for which I respect you, but disagree), how (by both degree and kind) is mandating the preservation of emails different from requiring that the administrative offices be bugged and the recordings made a matter of public record? I&#8217;ll admit that my emails are perhaps more causal than those of a full time desk-jockey, but emails strike me as less formal than paper correspondence. If it becomes a matter of policy to preserve the emails &#8211; casual interactions &#8211; of administration workers, what kind of people are we going to be able to get for those jobs?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not absolutely convinced  I&#8217;m in the right here. Convince me that I&#8217;m not.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2273535</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who ignore the threat of vodka gummi bears are doomed to endure vodka gummi worms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who ignore the threat of vodka gummi bears are doomed to endure vodka gummi worms.</p>
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		<title>By: CyniCAl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2273401</link>
		<dc:creator>CyniCAl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And so the preparations continue.  That used to be called &quot;mobilization.&quot;

&quot;We have met the enemy, and they are us.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so the preparations continue.  That used to be called &#8220;mobilization.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We have met the enemy, and they are us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BamBam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2273272</link>
		<dc:creator>BamBam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pentagon Is Offering Free Military Hardware To Every Police Department In The US

http://www.businessinsider.com/program-1033-military-equipment-police-2011-12#ixzz1fgCE0oI1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pentagon Is Offering Free Military Hardware To Every Police Department In The US</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/program-1033-military-equipment-police-2011-12#ixzz1fgCE0oI1" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/program-1033-military-equipment-police-2011-12#ixzz1fgCE0oI1</a></p>
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		<title>By: BamBam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2273003</link>
		<dc:creator>BamBam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@11, the police actions aren&#039;t justified because of the bad choices the criminal made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@11, the police actions aren&#8217;t justified because of the bad choices the criminal made.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2272953</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Penalty for government officials destroying public records = none.

Penalty for government officials convicted of corruption = LOL...also &quot;none&quot; but it can be awkward at the club.

They&#039;ll keep deleting records.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penalty for government officials destroying public records = none.</p>
<p>Penalty for government officials convicted of corruption = LOL&#8230;also &#8220;none&#8221; but it can be awkward at the club.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll keep deleting records.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/06/morning-links-581/comment-page-1/#comment-2272910</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Sam
&lt;blockquote&gt;Relatively certain that Ron Paul might be tied only because nobody has any idea what specifically he’s recommending in terms of policy.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Weird.  Ron Paul is the only one who&#039;s policy I know.

Confirmation bias, ladies and gents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sam</p>
<blockquote><p>Relatively certain that Ron Paul might be tied only because nobody has any idea what specifically he’s recommending in terms of policy.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Weird.  Ron Paul is the only one who&#8217;s policy I know.</p>
<p>Confirmation bias, ladies and gents.</p>
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