Fascists never retreat…cuz the chilrenz.

@14 PNT has a current lawsuit against Joe, last I heard. Going nowhere as usual. He keeps getting reelected by the snowbirds on his “I’m the only one standing between your grandaughters and the howling mob of reefer-crazed Mexican rapists” campaign platform.

Some people are apethetic, some people are ignorant, some simply don’t share your world view so there’s nothing to fight back against, or some combination of the three.

You can of course subvert this nonsense. Where I live they ask you questions about eye drops (no, really, they do). Anyway, my two year old son sometimes gets an eye infection which is quickly and easily dealt with by Chloramphenicol which is available without prescription and was recommended for him by our doctor. anyway in a slightly different jurisdiction they won’t give it to a two-year old without prescription and when I tried to buy some they told me to ‘Foxtrot Oscar’ So I went back to the car, told my wife to buy some “for herself” and one minute later we had the medicine, and two hours later, the boy was well on the way to recovery.

Over here in the mother country, smoking is specifically banned in private members clubs (ie even ones that are really private members clubs) so you now have the spectacle of older people standing outside in the cold and rain for a smoke ~ now that’s healthy!

http://www.wbir.com/news/article/193659/2/New-rules-mean-new-questions-at-East-TN-pharmacies

Not a chance. OSHA regulations forbid it.

One bar owner already had a sealed off ventilated smoking room which had to be closed. Another who had a bar in the basement of a hotel tried to skirt the law by breaking down a wall in the bar and turning the next door room into a ventilated sealed off by sliding door smoking room, which was in the hotel zoning so he thought he might be able to get away with it if he banned drinks from being allowed inside. That didn’t fly either…

Something like that was tried here in Minnesota. Actors were exempted from the new indoor smoking ban (the idea being a character in a might play smoke or something). A bar in the Twin Cities metro decided to start having “theater nights” were all the patrons were dubbed actors in a community theater of sorts.

The local busybodies were not amused and fined the bar owner until he stopped.

Something I don’t understand is why more people don’t fight back. For instance; in California I can think of a couple nanny state regs that could be evaded quite easily, I think.

I believe No Smoking laws only apply in places accessible to the public at large, not in private clubs. Service stations are required to provide free compressed air (for filling tires) if open to the general public.

Why don’t more businesses consider becoming “private” clubs? Seems to me you could become one easily yet still be able to solicit business from the general public. A bar, for instance, could require membership to enter, but you could just charge a one- time $.10 charge for a membership card. Same with service stations.

That way if a bar owner wanted to allow smoking, it he could do it easily. I can understand why a service station might not want to go through the hassle over the air pumps but the place I get my gas is a private company that requires a card and they’re probably the biggest dealer in my county (and I have to pay to use their air pumps).

I can only guess that most business owners are either too afraid, or too lazy, to give it a try.

This made no sense to me until I found out that you could previously buy just the toy for $2.18. Is the market just for those crappy toys really so big that we’ll see an increase in Happy Meal sales in SF?