Your An Idiot

Saturday, November 26th, 2011

Email responses to my article from Friday have been mostly positive. But here’s a fun one:

I’m from outside Chicago.  Wicker park has historically been a rough neighborhood.  In fact, i had to chase down a purse snatcher there a couple years ago.  The new hipsters moving in are naive.

Shaver seems to me like she doesn’t understand the city.  Her and her dipshit friend picked a fight with two hot headed gangsters and got a light beat down.

Then they blamed the cops.  You learn not to screw with Chicago cops, and you learn to mind your own business.

Someone yelling profanities is a verbal argument.  She’d have an excuse to get involved if the girl was getting beaten.

There’s no California bullshit in my city.

I feel bad for her like i feel bad for the dead wrong pedestrian lying in the crosswalk (Oh yeah, that rule doesn’t mean shit in Chicago either).

Two sides to every story,

Brock

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32 Responses to “Your An Idiot”

  1. #1 |  Ben | 

    That’s hilarious. Much like the prohibition debate, the folks on the other side are mouth-breathers.

  2. #2 |  Mike | 

    Brock Samson? I wondered what happened to him.

  3. #3 |  Jim March | 

    And this, folks, is what gun control ultimately leads to – a total breakdown in civil society.

    And this joker thinks that’s a GOOD thing.

    Fuuuuuuuuck.

  4. #4 |  Alex | 

    Gun control leads to a total breakdown in civil society? Nothing like hyperbole, huh?

  5. #5 |  Judas Peckerwood | 

    Brock writes like a hookworm channeling Raymond Chandler. Or tries to.

  6. #6 |  celticdragonchick | 

    I feel bad for her like i feel bad for the dead wrong pedestrian lying in the crosswalk

    Substitute Jew for pedestrian and concentration camp for crosswalk and you get where this person is coming from in terms of give-a-shit attitude towards authoritarianism.

    Brock is the sort who sneers at “idiots” who say something and speak out when the fog and night decree gets announced or when the children are carrying rifles and singing about the Fatherland. After all, smart people stay out of the crosswalks in Chicago…or whatever the fuck that was supposed to be.

  7. #7 |  z | 

    You’re?

  8. #8 |  Aresen | 

    This guy isn’t a badge-licker.

    He’s a badge-boot-licker.

    And probably enjoys being beat down.

    @ Z:

    When Radley started the “Your an Idiot” series a while back, he chose to use (youse?) the “your/you’re” homophone error as a mocking riff on the grammatical errors often committed by the people who send the kind of email cited.

  9. #9 |  Marty | 

    this is why you shouldn’t write while drinking. he’s gonna want this one back…

  10. #10 |  Aresen | 

    Marty

    Which one do you want back?

    ;P

  11. #11 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    This reminds me of talking to New Yorkers in the 1970’s and early 1980’s. They’d decided that nothing was ever going to stop the city’s downward spiral, and were perversely proud of it. Why they lived in such a place always baffled me.

  12. #12 |  Cynic in New York | 

    Sounds like another internet tough guy to me. He is the type of guy who talks tough to retail employees knowing full well they cant do a thing to him but if he would try the same tough guy act in a bar he would be laid out flat. Authoritarian douchebags are a strange bunch. I do rather enjoy this series of yours Radley

  13. #13 |  Jim March | 

    No hyperbole involved.

    We are supposed to be adult members of society able to complain about our mistreatment or somebody else’s. Lacking any 2nd Amendment right to self defense, excercise of the 1st Amendment is insanely dangerous. Lacking a functional 2nd Amendment, Chicago’s “citizens” (reduced to something closer to serfs) cannot complain about any misdeeds safely, whether the miscreants are private or public. Which is what this “long time Chicago subject” alludes to: Chicago PD don’t take complaints very well any any native is supposed to know that.

    Our civil rights are interconnected. They each support the other. Take one away and the rest collapses right along with the social order.

  14. #14 |  Josh | 

    Brock Lesnar replied to your post!

    Its incredible! ;D

  15. #15 |  tim | 

    Funny – I’m in Chicago at this very moment. The notion that those from Chicago are somewhat “tough” is laughable. Matter of fact I dont find them much different than my home city of Minneaoplis.

    And chasing down a purse snatcher TWO years ago? Wooo tough.

  16. #16 |  dsmallwood | 

    what IS the point of this argument?

    You learn not to screw with Chicago cops, and you learn to mind
    your own business.

    that the cops are allowed to F’ with you if you request that they do their job? is that it? i hear that every once in a why from the “tough guy” crowd. y’know, they are tough and street-wise and they don’t need the cops ’cause they know the real score.

    as a taxpayer that is the dumbest thing ever. why on earth would i “support” the police if they won’t do what i pay them for?

  17. #17 |  derfel cadarn | 

    You learn not to screw with Chicago cops? Fuck you and those useless taxfeeders. The reason they call Chicago the second city is because if it disappeared tomorrow no one would give it a second thought. If that is how things are in YOUR city then I have NO doubt that YOU deserve it.

  18. #18 |  (B)oscoH | 

    Brock Obama? He’s from Chicago.

  19. #19 |  Danny | 

    I think Radley should err on the side of not printing material from people who are likely having a “florid” episode of mental illness.

  20. #20 |  Psion | 

    I want to write a parody response to one of his stories so subtle, so ingenious, so devious that Radley thinks it’s real and publishes it under “Your an Idiot”.

    But the wit required not only exceeds my abilities, it would also likely disqualify any such well-crafted response.

    It’d be wonderful, though. I could claim with the best of them that I made an ass of myself in front of one of the best journalists on the planet.

    Hold on, I need to think this through again.

  21. #21 |  JOR | 

    This idiot is yet another demonstration of how appeals to personal responsibility are always stupid presumptions at best, and dishonest evasions at worst. It’s true, as far as it goes, that if you get fucked up by gangsters or cops (but I repeat myself) you brought it on yourself, but to point that out is either vacuously stating the obvious if it’s intended to be amoral and descriptive of practical cause and effect and is also a non sequitur in the context in which such appeals are usually made; or evil and dishonest if, as seems to be the case here, it’s supposed to shame us for the supposed moral weakness inherent in complaining about thuggish, murderous behavior that gangsters and cops (yeah, yeah, redundancy ftl) are used to employing without consequence.

  22. #22 |  Bobby Black | 

    This, my friends is a perfect example of a sheep in wolf’s clothing. A man who acts tough, but every sentence rendered showed him to be cowed, afraid, bent over in ardent adulation of that which he perceives to be strength. Beaten into submission his only strength left is apathy. A pitiful thing this. Being servile to a draconian governing body while clearly wishing to emulate them is just another Wormtongue whispering “yes mooosssster” whilst hiding behind bravado and tough words, and it doesn’t hide what kind of “man” he is. Just a male. No code, no honor, broken and biting whatever comes near. His type is a predator of the weak, and a fawning idoit who worships the cruelty he perceives as strength.This is a man who shows us the worst of our modern populous. A dick. A douche. A loser. Nothing of worth, and nothing to see. Pity.

  23. #23 |  Jamie | 

    It is more than that, JOR, it is implicitly condoning the cops being corrupt thugs. It is a mindset that seems one part social Darwinist – he’s so clearly self-sufficient that the cops won’t bug him, and one part authoritarian. Honestly, I do hope he can continue to be deluded. I don’t with Kafka-esque mayhem on anyone.

    (I have no idea what he thinks California cops are like, but should anyone be confused, I would much prefer to deal with the NYPD than the the SFPD, having lived in both places and unfortunately being in a position to compare.)

  24. #24 |  JOR | 

    Yeah, part of my point is that appeals to personal responsibility always implicitly condone the people and actions they’re telling you to stop complaining about (and when they’re not, as the people making such appeals often protest when called out for victim-blaming, they’re just vacuous and irrelevant). That’s something formal about appeals to personal responsibility. They’re fallacious (specifically, they’re literally question-begging, or non-sequiturs, or question-begging non-sequiturs depending on the case) even when they presume moral principles I agree with. If I simply said to someone “if that cop didn’t want to get shot, he shouldn’t have gone around busting into peoples’ homes” in a debate with someone where, say, the immorality of enforcing drug laws wasn’t taken for granted, I would be committing the fallacy of begging the question, or spewing a vacuous banality. It would be more honest of me to come right out and say that a cop who gets shot while invading someones’ home to enforce drug laws is morally responsible for his own injury or death because it’s morally permissible to shoot a cop (or anyone else) who is committing aggression (in the libertarian sense of ‘aggression’). Drug warriors would clearly disagree with the statement, but it would be an honest argument with moral premises and conclusions, rather than passive-aggressive appeals to ‘personal responsibility’, and what [insert derisive label](s) ‘deserve’ for flouting convention and drawing attention to the utter stupidity and pathetic malevolence of local customs.

  25. #25 |  Lian Yao | 

    i happen to live in California and there are areas here that are just as bad as wicker park. i have never lived there but, to be quite honest its not all that peachy in Compton.

  26. #26 |  Mike T | 

    It’s true, as far as it goes, that if you get fucked up by gangsters or cops (but I repeat myself) you brought it on yourself, but to point that out is either vacuously stating the obvious if it’s intended to be amoral and descriptive of practical cause and effect and is also a non sequitur in the context in which such appeals are usually made; or evil and dishonest if, as seems to be the case here, it’s supposed to shame us for the supposed moral weakness inherent in complaining about thuggish, murderous behavior that gangsters and cops (yeah, yeah, redundancy ftl) are used to employing without consequence.

    She got fucked up in a very foreseeable way. You don’t yell such an in-your-face command at a gangster without the ability and will to carry out a sufficient escalation of force that they immediately leave you alone or end up in a pool of their own blood. Where I come from, we have a word for picking a fight with very violent men that you should know you can’t handle in a one or two on one fight: suicide.

  27. #27 |  Mike T | 

    **I’m not defending the Chicago PD in any way here. Their response was reprehensible in every respect, at every stage of the process. I am merely pointing out that only a stupid white chick raised in a fairly safe area would mouth off to two possible gangbangers who are already brow-beating the heck out of another woman and then be even surprised that she gets her ass kicked.

  28. #28 |  Omri | 

    I went to high school in Chicago and lived in Wicker Park in the early 90’s, back when it really was tough. As in, I narrowly dodged a stray bullet riding the Division Street bus.

    Got out in 1993, and never looked back. Fuck the CPD. And fuck the “tough guys” who think they earn street cred putting up with this shit.

  29. #29 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    i had to chase down a purse snatcher there a couple years ago.

    Lookout everyone, we’re dealing with a badass here!

  30. #30 |  JOR | 

    “She got fucked up in a very foreseeable way. You don’t yell such an in-your-face command at a gangster without the ability and will to carry out a sufficient escalation of force that they immediately leave you alone or end up in a pool of their own blood.”

    As I said, in the few instances when such statements are not intended to have moral content, they are vacuous, banal bombast. This is a non-sequitur, since it does not follow from this, that people should not complain about an injustice, or organize to correct it. People shouldn’t have to be afraid of yelling at assholes. Complaining about assholes who violently attack people who yell at them, and about other assholes who let it happen because they sort of approve of it or just don’t take their supposed jobs seriously or whatever, is part of creating and reinforcing a world where that doesn’t happen. If you have no objection to that, these kinds of trite banalities are literally pointless. If you do have an objection to that, then there are deeper disagreements that need to be addressed, and simply appealing to the victim’s “personal responsibility” like a libertoidal badgelicking rape apologist drug warrior is pure posturing and intellectual dishonesty.

  31. #31 |  Mike T | 

    In a world where people weren’t afraid of yelling at assholes, we wouldn’t have assholes would we?

    The major sin on the Chicago PD’s part, in my opinion, was that they refused to do anything about it once she had the evidence for them. I don’t necessarily blame them for shrugging off any responsibility to rush to her aid like knights in shining armor after a fight that she provoked.

    A key part of creating a world where this doesn’t happen is to train men and women, particularly women, that at any given time there is a minority of the population that simply will not obey laws like the statutes against rape and murder. If you don’t take action to avoid them, or worse yet, take actions likely to make their paths intersect with yours, you will bring about a highly likelihood of suffering in your life. I hesitate to call it tragedy because tragedy, properly understood, implies some sort of cosmic unavoidability. Clearly, that was not present in this case.

  32. #32 |  Mike T | 

    Their other sin being their commando raid, but given your nonsensical comment about “libertoidal badgelicking rape apologists” you sound like one of those numbskull liberals who actually thinks that most libertarians and a growing number of conservatives are actually “pro-cop.”

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