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26 Responses to “Your Government-Taking-a-Child-Away-From-Her-Parents Story of the Week”
Wow. How could a govnernment be so corrupt that it would rather destroy the lives of the parents and the children than come clean? These sorts of coverups do no one any good. The only reason they happen is to protect people along the way that were engaged in gross wrongdoing.
WOW. My daughter is now two months old. She was born a 6lb 9oz and went down to 5lb 5oz. So at 20oz that is DOUBLE what this child lost yet the doctors kept a close watch on her and so did we and she rebounded like crazy.
If social workers and judges can take your child away without due process, the Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper the powerful can continue to ignore with impunity.
Sounds like Ms Holliingsworth has discovered what we’ve known for years. The Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper that the powerful can ignore with impunity. And many of them are elected (and reelected) by us.
Im not attempting to excuse or justify the actions of the government actors. However I think it’s worth noting that the birth mother is apparently developmentally disabled, which comes from information on their own kitandnancy.com site (Our Plight section, 7g and 7h), and I think responsibly should have been noted in the editorial.
The article said that the mother is a federal employee. Sounds like karma to me.
That being said, the individual who comes for my child will not be an individual for very long. The Constitution is not a suicide pact, after all. But there are some things worth fighting, killing and dying for. This is the part where one quotes Solzhenitsyn.
“The Constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper that the powerful can ignore with impunity.”
The powerful need toilet paper too. At least, that’s the rumor. They certainly behave as if they were sans sphincter.
Cynical, when the Child Protective Services come to seize a child, they have a judge’s order, and they bring the local police as protection.
If Cynical did manage to survive a shoot-out with the local police, CPS would simply bring more police. They have plenty.
Granted, the judge may not have given any due process to the parents, but it is called “lawful” action.
The way it usually works is that the parents are served with emergency papers signed by a judge at the same moment that the child is taken away.
Sort of a government version of “Shock and Awe”.
Then, the parents can find and hire a lawyer. and go to court to try and recover their child/children. By then, weeks may have passed, and the government body representing the Child Protective Service will try and delay and stonewall the hearing date as long as possible, in order to fabricate a degree of normalcy to an obscene action by state/county government.
You often have indigent parents in these matters, trying to fight a state or county government, their associated judiciary which is severely biased against the parents, as well as the police and the CPS, along with their enablers in the medical and psychology professions.
The mantra that justifies and perpetuates all these takings is:
Aren’t you getting tired of seeing all these stories of government corruption? I most certainly am. Isn’t it time to do something about it? Caucus or vote in the primary for Ron Paul to help him win the nomination, and then vote for him in the election. When he wins, this corruption will end. Not immediately, of course, little of great import happens overnight, but corruption at any level of government won’t be tolerated by a Constitutional government.
Alan at #12 points out that Ms. Hey likely has Asbergers, but it’s doesn’t specifically say what she has. While that is certainly germane, based on the context, it seem irrelevant. She has a college degree and job with the FCC (jokes write themselves, but let’s not go there) so she seems highly functional. Her husband doesn’t appear to have any mental concerns and likely works from home based on his stated career, thus you have a second primary caretaker without any cognitive / mental concerns. The child was conceived via artificial insemination at the Washington Fertility Center. So, this wasn’t an unwanted pregnancy and I would assume a fertility clinic does at least a cursory screening of potential patients for maternal suitability. Anyone know?
More questions: What led to social services being notified? Did the doctor have suspicions of neglect and contact them? Did the hospital? Why? What is the threshold for their involvement? How can the hospital refuse discharge based on the parents refusing to sign a child services form? What would have happened if they refused to sign the initial document and contacted a lawyer immediately?
I feel so bad for these people and the child especially. Denying the child the ability to bond with her parents for no good reason angers me. Unless there is some serious mitigating circumstances we aren’t aware of, I hope the child services goons and their enablers all die in a fire.
OK, I think I just found the chink the armor that is being exploited by child services. The couple were not married until October 2005 while Sabrina was born in April 2005. It also says that Mr. Slitor is not the biological father, so apparently it was donor semen used in the artificial insemination. So child services and the law viewed them as live-in companions instead of husband and wife. I’m assuming Mr. Slitor isn’t listed as father on the birth certificate.
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November 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am
The supposed jurists involved in this case along with everyone else who even touched it should go to prison(actually drawn and quartered but we could not be so lucky). The American government at ALL levels is out of control,if the government is attempting to foment revolution they will be successful. As Americans,We the People can no longer tolerate these usurpations of RIGHTS we hold hold regardless of the government’s permission. It becomes more evident everyday that the solution can not be attained through political process,as it has become so corrupted by the lust of domination and avarice to be no longer recognizable as representative government.
Alan wrote “I think it’s worth noting that the birth mother is apparently developmentally disabled”
The passages cited by Alan suggest that the mother was _alleged_ in the court action to have a PDD-NOS (Pervasive Dev. Disorder – Not Otherwise Specified), but as MassHole noted, she has a university degree and is gainfully employed in a responsible position. Those facts completely discredit the PDD-NOS allegation.
Asperger’s syndrome is currently thought to be on the Autism spectrum, up at the “good” end. Girls with Asperger’s are usually perceived to be “more like boys” in their insensitivity to social cues, and are mocked and shunned by other girls as punishment for their failure to conform. But that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the girls who have Asperger’s, unless we want to say that there’s something wrong with most boys.
Far too many people secretly believe that our expectations of gendered behavior should have the force of law.
November 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
A girl with Asperger’s here. I am an Electronics Technician and math tutor and yeah I’ve been accused of being “boy like” in that I operate rationally and not emotionally and I get along with my male co-workers far better than my female ones…something about not indulging in emotional blackmail and expecting everyone around me to be a mind reader.
It seems to me that CyniCAL’s take is the normal response to a threat to your children. Yet this never actually happens in the real world. I still wonder why.
In this case the fact that the couple had to resort to artificial means to even concieve a child likely means the state has completely ended her chance to procreate… the most basic of biological imperatives. What magical power protects those agents of the bureacracy from having their homes firebombed? Surely just dumb luck would have them eventually find someone who becomes unhinged. And that doesn’t even rely on the state being wrong about the parents. There are plenty of violent and antisocial folks who have kids too. It is really odd that you don’t hear more than the occasional father flipping out and bringing a gun to child custody proceedings.
My daughter lost 12 ounces after birth. It is not only totally normal, but is actually expected – it is just what happens. babies are born with enough reserve that they can lose as much as a pound or more and be just fine. It sounds to me like this might have been a case of CPS being in the pockets of some adoption business looking for a clean, healthy baby to wrench away on pretext to meet some adoption quota for a good palm greasing kickback. Heads. must. Roll.
As an aside, my daughter is now 8 months old, totally healthy and in the 95% for height and weight. The pediatrician in charge was not really worried at all about her weight loss.
Modern America was conceived in Germany and imported in the early 20th Century. It explains several things, such as why we don’t read about CPS agents being murdered by parents of seized children who are then murdered themselves in the inevitable counter-attack. Modern Americans are too well-indoctrinated in State worship (or State acquiescence s’il vous plait) to have any inclination toward violent reaction. It also explains the acceleration of the police state, the rise of the socialist/fascist state and the education system.
So yes, I’m quite aware of the endgame of violent resistance to the State in its myriad forms. Like I wrote, some things are worth fighting, killing and dying for. It is up to the individual to determine what those are for himself or herself. I made my position clear, easy for me to say because I’ve never been in the situation, but I stand by it. Everyone should. Then maybe it would stop.