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Wednesday, November 9th, 2011

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  1. #1 |  Deoxy | 

    It’s likely that the guy would have received a lighter sentence if he had actually molested a child.

    The issue here is the stupid “each picture is its own crime” law. The crime should be something like “intent to view child porn”, or some such – that would solve the problem in the current law of lacking mens rea, while simultaneously solving situations like this.

    And that’s entirely without having to argue about the merits of criminalizing child porn, which I view as a win all by itself – such arguments are always unfun.

  2. #2 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    OK, Russel Pearce is probably a jerk, but let’s be accurate here. He’s anti-ILLEGAL immigration. His law mirrors the federal immigration laws that the Feds decline to enforce. Now, it can be reasonably argued that those laws are bad laws, and that they need to be changed. But there is a distinction between someone who is against unchecked illegal immigration and somebody who is against immigration of all kinds. And I think that it is a distinction that needs to be kept in mind if we actually want to debate the issue, instead of simply call each-other foul names.

    Russel Pearce is pandering to a segment of the population that feels that illegal immigrants are necessarily criminals since they have already broken the law. It’s hard to argue that one on a factual basis, but it lacks nuance. It ignores that a) the law in question is a mess b) those immigrants who come from Mexico (the majority, we are told) come from a State where the Law isn’t respectable ….. and so these people aren’t necessarily bad people. In any case, let’s be careful about the terms of the disagreement, because I have a feeling that it is going to become important to distinguish between Politicians who are pandering to anti-illegal sentiment and politicians who are pandering to anti-foreigner sentiment.

    Unless we just want to call each-other names, in which case, nevermind. Carry on…

  3. #3 |  Andrew S. | 

    Pearce has far more problems than just his support for the illegal immigration law.

  4. #4 |  Curt | 

    In Georgia election news, the votes came in with overwhelming support for my favorite candidate of this election… Sunday alcohol sales!

  5. #5 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “Man gets life without parole for possession of child porn. It’s likely that the guy would have received a lighter sentence if he had actually molested a child.”

    So from now until 2050 someone’s going to have to cook his food,
    wash his clothes, give him recreation, pay his electricity, meds, personal supplies, run his mail, all on the taxpayer money.
    Seems like the citizen taxpayers got screwed, “victimized over and over” to use the parlance of the courts.

  6. #6 |  perlhaqr | 

    Two weeks later, headlines about people with $50k in lottery ticket credit card debt.

  7. #7 |  omar | 

    Shirley Rolston gave birth to a daughter this past summer. She named her Amiracle.

    Laugh out loud hilarious.

    All babies need constant care, but Amiracle requires even more care than the usual. She was born with just three chambers in her heart and twice a week nurse from Nurses For Newborns visits the family.

    Aaawww, shit. :/

  8. #8 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood easily wins reelection.

    Thank God! I was worried that he would be defeated and his successor wouldn’t continue the deep investigation into Michael West.

  9. #9 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 


    Like I said; he’s (probably) a jerk. I don’t live in Arizona, so I haven’t been following his antics. I still think it’s important to make the distinction I made. But I’m a political Crank. I think it isn’t fair to razz Jimmy Carter (who I loathe) because he tried to kill an obviously rabid rabbit.

  10. #10 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Re: #2

    I’ve yet to meet anybody who’s “anti-illegal immigration” who isn’t simply “anti-immigration”. They use the “illegal” thing as a hook to make themselves look less assholeish.

  11. #11 |  SamK | 

    #10 Meet me. I consider immigration control to be a basic requirement for control of cultural evolution and precisely what a government should be regulating, as destabilization of functional cultural elements is a recipe for social disaster. I *like* immigration and disagree with choking down on it as much as the US does legally but I am wholeheartedly against uncontrolled immigration for the above mentioned reasons. Uncontrolled immigration will not necessarily be at a rate or with a character that causes the harm I am describing, but it IS fully capable of doing so and I don’t see any problem with controlling it so it does not.

  12. #12 |  omar | 

    I consider immigration control to be a basic requirement for control of cultural evolution and precisely what a government should be regulating

    You have packed more authoritarianism into one statement than I thought possible. Are you quoting Mao?

    The trajectory of cultural evolution is a job best left to happen naturally without authoritarian interference.

  13. #13 |  derfel cadarn | 

    If the possessor of the child porn had been a police officer that had repeatedly sexually abused a minor the charges would have been reduced to J walking and the record cleared immediately. Although child porn is horrific it is hardly punishable by life in prison, if they had murdered the child it is doubtful that this would be the sentence.

  14. #14 |  Bob Mc | 

    If the cops in Nashville know that property was stolen then they should know who it was stolen from. So why don’t they give it back to it’s rightful owners?
    It’s nice to give to charity, but not if what you’re giving away is not yours to begin with.

  15. #15 |  Mattocracy | 

    Government regulating culture. Also accomplished by censorship, thought policing, religion, peacefull assembling of people, etc. Sounds like another way to say, regulating freedom.

    The government has no right to tell peaceful people where they can go, who to employ, and how many people can be some place.

  16. #16 |  Curt | 

    @ #6 – perlhaqr,

    Followed a few weeks later by Occupy Quickie Mart protests for debt forgiveness.

    You see, they bought the lottery tickets with the expectation that they would be winners. If they had known those tickets weren’t going to be winners, they wouldn’t have bought them. Therefore, they are entitled to have their debt forgiven.

  17. #17 |  Kristen | 

    IJ turns 20 – happy birthday IJ!

  18. #18 |  Brandon | 

    So, with all the bad publicity they’ve given themselves the last few years, the cops are now going to play Robin Hood with the seized stuff that they don’t want to keep for themselves? No possible ethical conflicts there. Nope, none at all. The democrats might not like their territory being encroached on, though.

  19. #19 |  Andrew S. |

    The Supreme Court absolutely ripped the New Orleans prosecutor yesterday in the oral arguments for the latest case involving a breach of Brady rules.

  20. #20 |  MH | 

    “I consider immigration control to be a basic requirement for control of cultural evolution and precisely what a government should be regulating, as destabilization of functional cultural elements is a recipe for social disaster.”

    Tasking government with maintaining the culture, however defined, involves providing it with large amounts of money and power needed to effect this goal. It can’t be assumed that giving it such power won’t, itself, end up having any deleterious effects on the culture. Which I think is exactly what will happen.

  21. #21 |  Don't comment much | 

    @#19: Dang! That was a pause that refreshes — especially Scalia joining in the ripping.

    Of course, maybe oral arguments were just for show, and the decision could still come down upholding NO Parish’s exclusive power to decide what evidence is exculpatory and what isn’t.

    But at least the oral arguments offer some hope.

  22. #22 |  Rob Lyman | 

    I have absolutely no use for child molesters or real child porn, but I’ve seen a 20-y.o. man sentenced for making of video of himself and his 17 y.o. girlfriend (he was 19 at the time, I think; memory is imperfect). At the time of sentencing, he had married the girl (and as I understand it, the sex itself was legal). The judge expressed his dissatisfaction with the prosecution in open court but wound up giving a sentence of a couple of years (again, memory is imperfect).

    I’ve also sat through testimony from a medical doctor who was purportedly an expert in adolescent breast development, the purpose of which was proving that the girls in pornographic images were underage based on a close examination of their nipples. Now, it’s certainly possible the doctor was 100% correct in his assessment, but I doubt very much he passed a controlled trial with hundreds of dummy images of girls of known age. What’s more, it strikes me as unreasonable to ask a guy looking at porn to have a consulting physician available to verify that everything is legal.

    So while I’m all for clobbering the heck out of real molesters and pornographers, the extreme reach of the law as it is enforced is a problem.

  23. #23 |  omar | 

    So while I’m all for clobbering the heck out of real molesters and pornographers, the extreme reach of the law as it is enforced is a problem.

    That’s a nice sentiment, but how exactly do clobber people without the extreme reach of the law?

  24. #24 |  DoubleU | 

    Re: “Police Raids To Help Charities”
    One market owner’s loss will soon be a single mother’s gain

    Re: Unfortunate headline of the day.
    It was used purposely, because all men who watch football beat their wives.

    Re: Lotto
    The lottery is the stupid people tax, the dumber a person is the more they play. If you don’t believe me, look at the people in line to buy lottery tickets.

  25. #25 |  StrangeOne | 

    Double, I don’t think most libertarians have a problem with the lotto’s existence in general, or try to make such sweeping judgements of the people that play. But I know I personally have a problem with the state trying to legislate “unethical” behavior like gambling while turning around and profiteering from the exact same behavior. Its the government monopoly, and the considerable force used to establish that monopoly, that I have a problem with.

    Play a texas hold’em scratch-off ticket, where the state gets 50% of the money and some lotto company gets 15%, and your fine. But if you play an actual game of texas hold’em in your own house, where the house takes no rake and its zero sum game, then you can expect a SWAT raid, seizure of your property, and arrests. All of which is supposedly for your own benefit because all of that other stuff is apparently nothing compared to the evils of gambling, according to the state.

  26. #26 |  DoubleU | 

    Mis-read the “Single mother’s gain” at he linked site, for some reason I read it as One market owners loss will be another market owners gain”

    StrangeOne. Didn’t mean to upset you.

  27. #27 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Interesting Slate discussion…

    I was skeptical, but it wasn’t bad.

  28. #28 |  Michael Chaney | 

    Re: #11 – I’m all for controlling immigration and I believe that open borders are a bad idea. That said, I don’t get real upset about the Mexicans who have made it here, and I find that those who do always end up getting upset about all immigrants if you get talking to them.

  29. #29 |  croaker | 

    @19 Simple Justice has a slightly different slant

  30. #30 |  cyto | 

    Immigration in general is a good thing. Open borders… maybe not so much.

    Thought experiment: let’s say the US and canada were in conflict over some issue. Both countries have completely open immigration policies. Rather than fight it out, the US just sends 20 million immigrants over the border and they vote for unification in the next election….

    Or how about this… Canada is really worried about a second Obama term. So they send a half million immigrants to florida and Ohio to swing the election.

    Not too worried? Ok, replace Canada with China or India. Either could muster 100 million conscripts if absolutely necessary without even causing too big of a disruption to their country. Or replace the US with Israel. I think you get the point. Controlling the border is one of the fundamental reasons for existance of the federal government.

  31. #31 |  Stephen | 

    OT – A little bit of good news. Remember the Canton Ohio cop going nuts?

    Now lets hope the cop gets fired. Probably never happen, but I can hope. My ability to hope is almost dead but still barely there.

  32. #32 |  JOR | 

    “OK, Russel Pearce is probably a jerk, but let’s be accurate here. He’s anti-ILLEGAL immigration.”

    So legalize it. Problem solved. Wonder why the people who insist they’re only against illegal immigration are unanimously opposed to that solution.

  33. #33 |  markm | 

    There’s something missing in the story about the Nashville PD donating stolen property to charity – the rightful owners.