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Tuesday, November 8th, 2011

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  1. #1 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    “Surprise inspection of Mexican prison turns up 100 plasma TVs, 19 prostitutes.”

    I wonder what the Plasma TVs had done….

  2. #2 |  BSK | 

    Amazing how many people here have a knee jerk reaction that tells them a study that concludes that black folks aren’t exactly the worst things on earth must be utter bullshit.

  3. #3 |  JOR | 

    “9% of white kids, across the country, have a substance abuse problem serious enough to be labeled a disorder under the DSM? BS!”

    Keep in mind that pretty much every trait actual people have in real life is some kind of disorder under the DSM. We’ve gotten to the point where people don’t have quirks or habits or even personalities anymore; everyone is just a configuration of various disorders.

    So given that knowledge, I’m a little more reluctant to call BS. At least for that reason.

  4. #4 |  Awktalk | 

    Can someone please post the link or video of the Occupy DC violence? I look at all of these links Balko posts and I don’t see any violence. Can someone please point me in the right direction? I know the violence must be there, not just some old lady falling down stairs and not people blocking a street, because we all know that old lady falling down stairs and people blocking an intersection is not violence. So can someone please post a violence link?

  5. #5 |  Awktalk | 

    Is it possible that Balko is finally showing his “true colors” by:

    a) not disclosing that he is paid handsomely by the powers that fund and run “Americans for Prosperity”? That all of his anti-occupy links are to the sewers of the right-wing blogosphere (DailyCaller, Stacy McCain, Slate), yet he makes no mention of the fact that what he is defending is sending him a pay check every two weeks?

    b) none of the links he posts actually show any violence? Does Balko now believe that blocking intersections is a display of violence?

    I never wanted to believe that Balko was intellectually dishonest, but this post and the one from Saturday have proven that he is just another shill, protecting his own personal economic interest instead of what he pretends to stand up for. This is becoming despicable and grotesque.

  6. #6 |  markm | 

    “9% of white kids, across the country, have a substance abuse problem serious enough to be labeled a disorder under the DSM? BS!”

    This study used a definition that (properly) includes alcohol, and not just alchoholism (addiction), but any problem drinking. So start with the frat kids…

    OTOH, that makes the comparison to the arrest rates for illegal substances pretty questionable.

  7. #7 |  markm | 

    Awktalk: Physically blocking someone from going where they have a right to go is violence.

  8. #8 |  Xenocles | 

    “Study: Black youth less likely to do illicit drugs than all ethnic groups but Asians. And yet they’re arrested at a far, far higher rate.”

    Naturally, this just proves that the WoD is working. Now they just have to focus just as hard on all the other ethnic groups too.


  9. #9 |  MassHole | 

    #54 is correct.

    Awktalk. What would you do if someone physically trap you and and tried to prevent you from going about your business? Would you just sit down and hope they go away?

    There are consequences for actions. Aggressing towards someone may result in getting your ass kicked. Maybe there is a time and place for aggressive protest, but I’d say it’s pretty rare and certainly not appropriate in this case. No one would have been hurt here if the protesters had acted in a rational manner and engaged these people. Instead they acted like the emo version of the G-20 protests.

    A few simple things to remember:

    – If you stand in the road, you are taking the chance of getting hit by a car.

    – If you block people from going about their business with the intention of intimidating them, they may respond with violence.

    – Take responsibility for your actions and don’t cry victim when you are the one that instigated the situation.

    I really wish the OWS had a coherent message. To big to fail, socialized losses / privatized gains, unregulated CDS market, etc. are issues that must be addressed. Unfortunately, OWS doesn’t seem to be sophisticated enough make these point and has become a vehicle for the drum circle crew. It’s too bad.

  10. #10 |  Leon Wolfeson | 

    @36 – Among other things, it’s looking VERY probable that the death threats, at least, are a false flag operation.

    There have been at least two CONFIRMED attempted false flag ops against Occupy in the UK, one 99% sure police-instigated. Both foiled for now.

  11. #11 |  2nd of 3 | 

    “There are consequences for actions. Aggressing towards someone may result in getting your ass kicked.”

    My standing in a crowd shouting slogans isn’t aggression. If I grab you, purposely trip you, or tackle you, okay, that’s aggression. If I’m standing there and you have to shove past me, that’s your problem. If you rasie your hand to strike me because I’m in your way, you’re the one who initiated the violence, not me. Maybe you’ll kick my ass. Maybe it’ll go the other way. Regardless, I am not the one who attacked first.

  12. #12 |  Radley Balko | 


    You do realize that I haven’t worked for a Koch-funded group since May, right? And that when I did, I was paid to write about police brutality? Also, Slate is right-wing? I’d hate to see what you consider left-wing.

    And yes, I do believe that physically preventing someone from moving freely is a form of violence. So is vandalizing a food cart with urine and blood, throwing water on a reporter, and punching a photographer in the face.

  13. #13 |  JOR | 

    As a rule, assume any reported misbehavior on part of protest movements is a false flag operation, either by detractors or the police, until shown otherwise. Not because protest movements are by nature very well behaved (they’re not), but because defenders of the status quo become exceptionally dishonest or stupid when faced with protest movements they disagree with, and the police in these situations are acting on malevolent and completely insane motives beyond human comprehension.

  14. #14 |  Flight 714 | 

    Radley must be pretty well off with all this money that he’s being secretly paid by, well, everybody.

  15. #15 |  MassHole | 


    “My standing in a crowd shouting slogans isn’t aggression.” Correct – No one said it was.

    “If I grab you, purposely trip you, or tackle you, okay, that’s aggression.” – Yup

    “If I’m standing there and you have to shove past me, that’s your problem.” – Sure, if you’re just standing there minding your own business. If you along with others are making a concerned effort to hinder my lawful movements and actively changing your position to do so, then that is aggression Don’t cry about it if you get what you asked for. Why don’t you do a little experiment. Go make a point to keep a random person from being able to go on their way, maybe someone walking with their kids, and see what happens.

  16. #16 |  Tim P | 

    I hope nobody is saying that because black kids might not have substance abuse problems at the same rates as Mexican kids there is not a huge problem in black neighborhoods and families. There are. Take a look at any big city newspapers crime section and if you come to the conclusion that everything is fine I don’t think your paying attention.

  17. #17 |  Les | 

    @66, I can’t think of a single person at any time who has suggested that “everything is fine” when it comes to substance abuse in any low-income areas, regardless of race. The problem, of course, is that black folks are getting arrested for having illegal drugs at higher rates, while using and abusing illegal drugs at lower rates.