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Sunday, October 16th, 2011

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  1. #1 |  Jeff W | 

    That fois gras thing reminded me good Stewart Lee line when he was talking about the cooking shows on British television.

    “I now know how one of those french geese feel, stuffed to make pate fois gras. Bloated, nauseated, frightened , and yet somehow simultaneously bored.”

    I remember reading something about how Chicago banned fois gras yet repealed the law almost immediately. This ban directly involves the rights of rich people so I can’t see it lasting too long.

  2. #2 |  EH | 

    Texas DA opposes post-conviction DNA testing because juries can be manipulated.

  3. #3 |  how | 

    Thank you for the link to the Paris photos. They’re all absolutely marvelous, but the one about two thirds of the way down, with the two men standing in that whatever-it-is, surrounded by all the wooden crates and people, is just astonishing.

  4. #4 |  how | 


  5. #5 |  jcalton | 

    That is indeed a urinal. They still exist in Europe, although they aren’t terribly common. Times Square could take a hint.

    Doisneau is fantastic.

  6. #6 |  how | 

    Thanks, jcalton! Couldn’t agree more re: Doisneau.

  7. #7 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    Three more “Eat Healthy” myths;

    1) “Organic” produce is healthier than regular produce.

    2) It is better to be thin than fat.

    3) Less salt is always good.

  8. #8 |  AL | 

    That foie gras article appears to have interviewed the dumbest people on both sides. On the pro- foie gras side, we have someone saying people should be allowed to eat whatever they want. Surely he should have thought a little more deeply about what that actually entails. Then on the anti- foie gras side, they got a bill sponsor boasting that the opposition was behaving like the opponents to Prohibition behaved. Is he not aware that the opponents to Prohibition won their fight?

  9. #9 |  Bob | 

    I would love to see your scientific evidence that being fat is somehow as or more healthy than being thin.

    Or that massive amounts of salt is somehow good for you.

    I will however, give you that “Organic” produce is only minimally superior (If at all.) to it’s “regular” brothers. The fact is, EATING YOUR DAMN VEGGIES is what most Americans really need to do. Organic or not.

  10. #10 |  mcmillan | 

    CSP Schofield didn’t say “massive mounts of salt is somehow good for you.” but that it was a myth that less salt is always better. And I think a similar he had a similar point about weight, though I might have phrased it a bit differently.

    I’ll grant that our current society tends to have more problems with obesity and too much salt, but it’s not completely absurd to point out that it’s possible to go too far in the other direction.

  11. #11 |  Bob | 

    I’ll grant that our current society tends to have more problems with obesity and too much salt, but it’s not completely absurd to point out that it’s possible to go too far in the other direction.

    Operative phrase: ” but it’s not completely absurd”… No. It IS completely absurd.

    Only a statistically tiny percentage of people are actually TOO thin or actually get TOO little salt.

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  13. #13 |  the innominate one | 

    Of course, no one said what you’re claiming, Bob. Take a breath. While you’re taking a breath, look up hyponatremia.

  14. #14 |  Brian | 

    I would love to see your scientific evidence that being fat is somehow as or more healthy than being thin.

    Geez Bob, what’s worse, your inability to comprehend what you read or your utterly ignorant knee-jerk responses? First you completely distort what the original comment said (e.g. “massive amounts of salt” — seriously?) then you almost trip over yourself to show your utter ignorance of several studies over the last decade supporting the fact that it is in fact not completely absurd that overweight people live longer than thin people. A tiny bit of googling (you can do that, right?) would have turned up this, for example:

    or this:

    or this:,8599,1957491,00.html

    All different studies, finding essentially the same thing. Further from the last link there is reference to earlier studies:

    In 2007 a study by U.S. researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Cancer Institute found that overweight adults had a slightly lower risk of death than their normal-weight peers, largely because they were less likely to die from a variety of diseases, including Alzheimer’s, infections and lung disease. Another study in 2005, published in Obesity, analyzed data on more than 11,000 Canadian adults for over 12 years and found that people who were overweight were 17% less likely to die than those of normal weight. Underweight adults, by contrast, had a 73% higher risk of death.

    So next time you might want to save yourself some embarrassment and reserve your knee-jerk responses for things ou’ve actually bothered to keep up to date on.

  15. #15 |  Paul | 

    That comment from the Texas D.A. would make me move out of his district in a hurry. A callous, uncaring man in high position of power over people’s lives. Stay far, far away.

  16. #16 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Mike Judges seems to be playing a custom double-neck B&BH Les Paul. I can only imagine what that is worth.

    Texas DA opposes post-conviction DNA testing

    Seriously? These fwads are just terrible people (seems to be a requirement for the position).

  17. #17 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    3) Less salt is always good.

    Bacon is salty. More bacon is always good. Myth busted!

  18. #18 |  JThompson | 

    @Bob: The short version of it is basically that health correlates much more strongly to activity levels rather than actual fat, for decent range around what’s normally considered healthy weight. Thin people that don’t exercise are usually less healthy than people in the obese range that do.

    Obviously this doesn’t mean someone with a BMI of 90 is healthy no matter how much they exercise. It does mean all the griping people do at the 25-29 range insisting they diet is probably misguided, since convincing them to exercise even a little would be more healthy.

  19. #19 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    Bob; I’ll only add one thought to those already posted by my defenders (thanks, people);

    I was born in 1961. I’ve paid at least some attention to politics since the early 1970’s (yes, I was a precocious brat). I have seen more Government Sponsored Models For Healthy Eating than I care to think about, and two things have united each and every one of them.

    1) They were the result of heavy Lobby pressure from somebody, whether dairy farmers or militant Vegetarians.

    2) They have been superseded by yet another pile of Lobbyist Propaganda in fairly short order.

  20. #20 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Example: Eggs and their drama-filled relationship with the US government…

    Eggs are great!
    Eggs are bad…cholesterol
    Eggs are great…protein.
    Eggs are bad…protein.
    Eggs are great…vital fats.
    Eggs are bad…fats.
    Eggs are great…just the egg whites.
    Eggs are bad…cholesterol (we already told you this!).
    Eggs are great…this particular cholesterol acts differently in your body.
    Eggs…no one can explain them…just don’t eat runny yolks.

  21. #21 |  Jimmy | 

    Wow, the comments off the Obama fundraising link are scary, to say the least:

    “Glad to see someone else recognize the fact that though Obama may hate big money in politics like the rest of us, he has no choice until legislation is passed to change that. Yep, I give every month, at least $50, sometimes more, and will continue to do so as long as I’m able.”

    Keep on fighting that noble fight Barry! We just want to keep the other guy’s “big money” out of politics. Our money is just fine!

  22. #22 |  pam | 

    hahah, “Diddley Squatters”, now that puts it all into perspective. Thanks commenter for making me laugh today.

  23. #23 |  Elliot | 

    @Boyd Dunkin (#20): The “runny yolks” terror over salmonella is bullshit.

    If you ate raw eggs for 30 years instead of cooked eggs, odds say you’ll contract salmonella only once in all that time.

    Also, the “thin” versus “fat” debate (#7, #9, etc.) is a bit misguided, as it ignores MUSCLE content. A person with healthy muscle mass who also happens to be carrying extra pounds in fat is going to be healthier than a scrawny person, typical of the vegetarian and/or aerobic exercise junkie.

    Get in a car wreck and the muscles will help protect you. Even fat will protect a person more than a scrawny person.

    Get cancer and the treatment will waste away your muscles. Start with a healthy, strong frame and your chances of survival are much improved.

    Also, the saturated fat advice is upside-down and backwards. Natural fats, particularly from animal sources (preferably animals with natural diets like grass-fed cattle or poultry which eats bugs, instead of industrial grain-fed varieties) provide much better Omega-3/Omega-6 ratios than the industrial byproducts known as vegetable oils. Our ancestors mostly evolved before agriculture, and long before processed food.

  24. #24 |  Ben | 

    #2 in the food myths. No, advertizing doesn’t force anybody to eat anything. However 25 years of government dishonesty (with the food pyramid) did. Carbohydrates and sugars are basically the same thing. Yet one’s the base of the pyramid and one is “don’t eat any of this.”

    Also, fat is good for you. (And, bonus, it doesn’t make you fat.)

  25. #25 |  Goober | 

    I would love to see your scientific evidence that being fat is somehow as or more healthy than being thin.

    Actually, it is not even argued anymore among scientific circles that mildly overweight people live longer, healthier lives than thin people. This is given fact, they really aren’t even studying it anymore because the data so strongly bears it out. Now, that being said, really overweight people are even lower on the list than both.

    Or that massive amounts of salt is somehow good for you.

    Depends on your definition of “massive” but the data more or less bears out that a diet consisting of 2,000 to 2,500 mg of salt a day is really not that big of a deal health-wise. No one is arguing that OD’ing on salt every day is a good thing, but like everything else, moderation is the key. Total abstinence from eating salt is very bad, and the proof is in the pudding – the number of cases of rickets, for instance, is going as up people cut more and more salt out of their diet (salt is American’s only source of iodine, which prevents rickets).

    I will however, give you that “Organic” produce is only minimally superior (If at all.) to it’s “regular” brothers.

    I would say that organic produce is orders of magnitude WORSE than non-organic food. 30 people died recently because of an ecoli outbreak in organically farmed food in germany. You must fertilize crops, and if you insist on organic, that means instead of a feritlizer consisting of the chemicals your crop needs to grow that is aseptic being applid, you get the exact same chemicals applied, only in filthy cow shit. Organic food has killed more people in that one instance than the entire Fukushima nuclear reactor debacle. Or the gulf Oil spill and sinking of the oil platform – Or, in fact, BOTH OF THOSE COMBINED. Watch the news – ecoli outbreaks occur all the time and they are almost always in organically grown food. Remember Odwalla? Organic produce is a disaster waiting to happen, being inflicted upon us by food luddites that have no idea what they are talking about.

    The fact is, EATING YOUR DAMN VEGGIES is what most Americans really need to do. Organic or not.

    The fact is, Americans need to take more responsibilty for themselves and just eat a diet that has moderate amounts of everything in it. You don’t need the government to tell you how many veggies to eat, or how much meat. Just eat a rounded, healthy meal every night that you cook yourself so you can monitor the amount of fat and salt and other things in it. If you trust McDonalds or Applebees to feed you a proper diet, you are in trouble.

    It really isn’t that hard: A piece of meat the size of the palm of your hand; A cup of veggies; A half cup of rice, grain, or other starch like potatoes or corn. Vary the meat between poultry, red meat, pork and fish. You don’t need to vary the veggies that much, but it is a good idea to try. You don’t need to vary the starches at all. That is literally all you need to know. How freaking hard is that? How is it that the government is spending billions trying to teach people what can be accomodated in three sentences in a blog comment?