Morning Links

Thursday, October 6th, 2011

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  1. #1 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — At one end of the fire hose were officers deployed by Bull Connor…

    Little has changed.

    Did not know Shuttlesworth. Thanks for the tip…and RIP.

  2. #2 |  Mario | 

    I just can’t imagine how thrilled Elizabeth Warren must be, what will all the money in estate taxes that will soon be coming the federal government’s way. At last, Steve Jobs will be contributing something back to society.

  3. #3 |  Aresen | 

    Federal judge lets CIA off the hook for destroying interrogations videos . . . because they’ve promised it won’t happen again.


    I’m sure that the CIA has put out a memo to all departments:
    “Do not videotape interrogations.”

  4. #4 |  Mario | 

    (Damn! I meant “what with.“)

  5. #5 |  Debbie | 

    Thank you for posting about Fred Shuttlesworth. He was truly a man of courage. As the article said: “He marched into the jaws of death every day” believing that the ideals expressed at America’s founding could and should be realities for all.

  6. #6 |  Jozef | 

    Somewhere in hell, Osama must be doing a facepalm and saying: “Oh this is what I did wrong! Had I promised not to fly airplanes into buildings anymore, the US would let me off the hook…”

  7. #7 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    1989 came “this” close to landing that Cupertino job with Apple. Instead, the circus was my future. I always admired Gates and Jobs and they’ll always be connected at the hip for me. For the hundreds of thousands of people enriched (spiritually and financially) for having worked for Jobs, for the millions who love his products, and for the rest who worked harder to compete with him…thank you Steve.

    I imagine my bucket list wouldn’t have “Shave a monkey the RIGHT way” had I gotten that Apple job.

    PS: I believe 72 hours is the allotted time before Jobs’ death is politicized.

  8. #8 |  Aresen | 

    @ Josef

    Ghaddafi tried that. It worked for a time, then BHO saw an opportunity….

  9. #9 |  2nd of 3 | 

    Damn, that was sad. However, what is the likelyhood that signing an internet petition will help? If it has a decent chance of helping I’d certainly sign, but I suspect it won’t have much effect, especially since I’m not a potential Florida voter. If my belief is wrong please let me know if these have helped in the past.

  10. #10 |  Aresen | 

    I believe 72 hours seconds is the allotted time before Jobs’ death is politicized.

    FIFY. (I’m sure that you meant to say it that way.)

  11. #11 |  celticdragon | 

    The saddest thing you’ll read today.</i.

    Jesus Christ. I don't even know where to begin.

  12. #12 |  Collin | 

    Westboro Baptist has announced that they will picket Steve Jobs’ funeral. Does that count as politicization?

  13. #13 |  Dante | 

    DC throwing drivers in jail for paperwork errors, forcing kids into foster care.

    For the children, of course.

    How long before the police change the name on the back of their jackets to “TERRORIST”?

  14. #14 |  Travis Ormsby | 

    Regarding that Christian Fernandez link, I thought it was interesting to note that earlier today some of my students were arguing that equality of opportunity did in fact exist in the US.

    Some other students objected and stated that some people’s life circumstances made it more difficult to achieve the same results as more fortunate people.

    The response was “well, since it’s theoretically possible for everyone to achieve at the same level, that means equality of opportunity exists. Just because it’s harder for some people doesn’t mean it’s not equal.”

    That’s so true. I mean, it’s not like a rich kid who never got beaten or neglected or sexually assaulted or had a guy blow his brains out in front of him has any discernible advantages over this kid.

  15. #15 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    The subject of a destruction of evidence investigation, related to torture,
    CIA agents, known for spending lots of time on the golf
    course, unexpectedly resorted to the Mulligan* defense according to sources at Reuters.


  16. #16 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 


    I can’t imagine that it counts, seeing as nobody I’ve heard of from either side of the political spectrum wants anything to do with Phelps or his flea bitten church. I seem to recall that the one thing that PETA and the KKK agree on is that Phelps is a jerk.

  17. #17 |  Bob | 

    “D.C. is throwing drivers in jail for expired tags.”

    Jesus. How fucked up is that? My first thought was “Ok, it must be people with registrations expired for over a year with 5 unpaid tickets on their record.” … No! Barely expired!

    The cops are just looking for any excuse to arrest people now. Shit, they’re starting to make the IRS look good.

  18. #18 |  FridayNext | 

    On the cops arresting drivers with elapsed registrations: Someone, somewhere is getting reimbursed based on the amount of “jailable hours” so that even a few hours on petty bullshit gets a person or bureaucracy more money from someone.

    I have no direct evidence of this, just knowledge of what makes bureaucracies jump and move and what doesn’t.

  19. #19 |  GSL | 

    RIP to Mr. Jobs. I have mixed feelings about Apple products, but his path in life is worth remembering and celebrating.

  20. #20 |  Bob | 


    Yup. Cops get to rack up arrests, then rack up overtime with court dates, The Jail gets justification for more jails and jail-cops. It’s just more funding needed for the “Police-Jail Industrial Complex”.

    Arrests = Power for the Police Lobby.

    The Police stopped being your friend a long time ago.

  21. #21 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    Also, more mugshots for that paragon of journalism, “Slammer” and
    the Sheriff’s website booking photos.
    Let’s not forget that the media play an important role in any thriving
    Police State.

  22. #22 |  Rob Lyman | 

    It’s horrible that that kid is going to be tried as an adult, but on the other hand, if he’s put away as a juvenile and gets out when he turns 18, how likely is it that he won’t become a seriously violent criminal?

    I don’t think we can blame him for what he did to his little brother, and to a certain extent for what he’s highly likely to do in the future. But what should we be doing with him? What consideration do we owe to his future victims (perhaps none, because they are merely speculative)? Is it even possible to meaningfully treat someone who has been through what he has?

  23. #23 |  Les | 

    Is it even possible to meaningfully treat someone who has been through what he has?

    Yes, it is. I worked for years with kids who had been through very similar things. It’s just unlikely that meaningful treatment will be achieved by the state and prosecutors.

  24. #24 |  TX Swede | 

    #21 – Rob, your last question is a reasonable one. As to the others – how can we know YOU won’t become a seriously violent criminal one day?

  25. #25 |  Rob Lyman | 

    Les, if that’s true, obviously that’s the right thing to do. I can see why the prosecutors are doing this: they expect him to reoffend (and grow up to be someone who gets 12-year-olds pregnant) and want him locked up for as long as possible. I’m not unsympathetic their motives. But if he can be treated, I sure wish there was a way to achieve that.

  26. #26 |  Rob Lyman | 

    Swede, I understand your theoretical and legal point, but on a practical level, being an abuse victim makes you far more likely to become an abuser, and this kid has already killed another child, whether through malice, lack of self-control, or cluelessness, I can’t say. We lock up violent criminals for a long time in part because we don’t want them going about creating more victims.

    That’s not to say I think locking this kid up is right, and it emphatically isn’t justice. But on the other hand, it’s not clear to me that there is any “right” in this situation.

  27. #27 |  A.G. Pym | 

    In all the well-deserved paens to Steve Jobs’ creativity in shepherding the various iThings to us, I’ve heard a lot of how he was so open and free and just wanted to world to be so open and free. I’ve not heard anything about how he structured Apple into the most closed, controlled and controlling, authoritarian sort of monolithic organization to deal with just about ever. Just one reason I’ve never gone Apple.

  28. #28 |  M | 

    Cops arresting people for things that don’t matter seems like people doing that psychology experiment where they fake torture actors because the person in charge tells them to. It’s not something a good person could do without thinking unless they were externally motivated.

  29. #29 |  GeneralGarbage | 

    If we’re going to put the kid into the criminal justice system, we might as well put him there for a good long time.

    Seems like the worst outcome would be to give the kid 6 years of getting raped and raping, and then turning him lose as an angry 18 year old murderer/rapist.

  30. #30 |  cryingSpaces | 

    How come no morning like about the Koch brothers selling oil mining equipment to Iran?

  31. #31 |  pierre | 

    Steve Jobs was a douche of epic proportions. How did he make the world a better place again? Because his mp3/phone player was cooler than the competition?

    Our lives are “immeasurably better” because of a fucking phone?

    I personally wish we could just totally “undo” cellphones. They are fucking annoying and unnecessary. Not to mention dangerous. Every time I am driving and see someone talking on there phone I want to ram them off the road, pull them out of the car and put a bullet between their eyes.

    I honestly only use mine when I am out of town on business, and even then I hate the thing.

    p.s. are they going to bury him in his black turtleneck and shitty acid washed jeans? I sure hope so.

  32. #32 |  Pablo | 

    RE: arresting drivers for expired registrations–dont forget the bail bonding companies. Everyone who is arrested and booked in has to post a bond. And bonding companies are on good terms with police departments, jails, and legislators.

  33. #33 |  jmcross | 

    The CIA promising to be good reminds me of Paul McCartney arriving at Heathrow after the Japanese let him slide on his pot bust in 1980. Asked if he was through with the evil weed, he said, “…drugs are bad and I’ll NEVER do it again.” Followed by a huge ironic wink into the camera.

  34. #34 |  albatross | 

    I think Aresen has it right.

    Laws, market discipline, and consequences are for the little people.

  35. #35 |  Chris in AL | 

    “But on the other hand, it’s not clear to me that there is any “right” in this situation.”

    Well, one ‘right’ would be to try him as a 12 year old. And if he is convicted, sentence him as a 12 year old. I think we should do this because he is a 12 year old.

    If he commits another crime we can address that then. It is not the government’s job to protect everybody. If it was, they should be held accountable for not protecting this 12 year old’s little brother. More freedom for all of us means more risk for all of us. Putting people away for longer than warranted because they had a bad childhood is unacceptable. You should only be held accountable for what you do, not for what others with similar circumstances to yours have done, or what you might do.

    Besides, I have a son. If he commits a crime I want him tried as a child, because he is a child. And because I want that for my son, it is only right to want it for this other boy.

  36. #36 |  J | 

    Can someone show me where this young man is guaranteed to be released to re-offend at age 18? I wasn’t aware that the maximum penalty for minors involves release at age 18.

    However, nothing in our injustice system would surprise me at this point. Poor kid would at least have a shot if he were white.

  37. #37 |  Rob Lyman | 

    I don’t think there’s any such thing as a generic 12 year old who can be tried and sentenced at an appropriate level. People at that age vary tremendously in their ability to understand what is going on. I certainly wouldn’t ever have beaten a 2 year old when I was 12, but I didn’t grow up in this kid’s home. Maybe the prosecutors have examined the evidence and concluded that he is unusually mature and really does think like an adult (improbable, but maybe). Or maybe he has the mentality of a 4 year old. I don’t know.

    Given the description of his life, it’s entirely possible that he qualifies as unable to appreciate the consequences and wrongfulness of his actions–i.e. “insane” for criminal purposes. It’s not like he seems to have come from a home that spent a lot of time teaching him to value life, including his own. And for that matter, he may well be unable to understand the proceedings and assist in his own defense–incompetent to stand trial.

    What is the solution? I don’t know. But on the other hand, “hey, let’s just turn him loose to torture and murder some more people before we catch him again, or else get shot by a CCW holder as he tries” doesn’t seem like a well thought out plan.

  38. #38 |  Rob Lyman | 

    J, in some places people in the juvenile systems age out at age 18 or 21 (on the assumption, I suppose, that by then they’ve wised up enough to know better). They get tried as adults so that they can get adult sentences and not get out so early. I don’t know how it works in every state, though.

  39. #39 |  David | 

    I paid tribute to Steve Jobs’ life today by installing a new copy of Windows 7 to the PC I built from parts.

    In all seriousness, though, fuck Apple but fuck cancer so, so much more.

  40. #40 |  Brandon | 

    #31, so cell phones are “dangerous” because you want to hurt people who use them? Seems like the solution there is to put you in an isolated cell, where none of the big bad technology can get to you.

    And just off the top of my head, Jobs employed thousands of people at a company that makes products for which people are willing to exchange their own money, created computers and devices that give people who choose to use them almost instant access to any informational or educational materials that they care to look for, and as far as I know, never once had the compulsion to run someone off the road and murder them for using something that he personally did not like to use, so he was a better person than you, at least.

    *Sent from my Blackberry.

  41. #41 |  PeeDub | 

    People that have Apple products, by and large, *love* Apple products. People that don’t, by and large, are more likely to hate them.

    The mere fact that so many buy and love Apple products is a good indicator that he did, in fact, enrich a lot of lives, no matter how much of a curmudgeon you are.

    Personally, I wish we could “undo” more people like Pierre.

  42. #42 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    How come no morning like about the Koch brothers selling oil mining equipment to Iran?

    I already addressed this, cryingSpaces. Koch Bros. creating jobs. Getting America back to work. Some of those jobs are union jobs, son. Union jobs.

  43. #43 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    The mere fact that so many buy and love Apple products is a good indicator that he did, in fact, enrich a lot of lives…

    Or, you can list off actual Apple technical achievements. That’s one of the best things about tech. You get to be objective.

  44. #44 |  Bob Mc | 

    Re Hank Williams:

    If I say comparing Led Zeppelin to the Dixie Chicks is like comparing apples to oranges does that mean I just called Led Zeppelin an apple?

    If I say cops and corruption go together like peanut butter and jelly did I just smear peanut butter?

    All HW said was that those two golfing together was as strange as the other two golfing together would be. He didn’t say they were alike.

    That said, he probably would have been OK had he claimed Boehner was the one he was comparing to Hitler, not Obama.

  45. #45 |  Stephen | 

    OT – I know the 4th amendment is dead, but doesn’t this make it even more dead?

    Scum all around here, but the legal part is interesting.

  46. #46 |  lunchstealer | 

    Yeesh! And I thought Arapahoe County were douchefucks for towing my car for expired tags.

    And they were douchefucks for towing my car for expired tags. DC are just awful fuckholes.

  47. #47 |  André |

    This made me sigh.

  48. #48 |  Marty | 

    that was the saddest thing I’ve read this year. damn.

  49. #49 |  Anthony | 

    @31 pirre,
    You win the crotchety, “damn you kids”, old man of the day award.

    Steve Jobs and Apple did more than phones and iPods. Even if all Apple did was make mp3 players. Yes he made our lives better. Making portable music possible has brought enjoyment to millions of people who otherwise wouldn’t be able to listen to the music they loved.
    Even if all Apple did was make smart phones common. Yes he made our live better. Games, music, social networking, planning tools, AND THE FUCKING INTERNET are carried around in millions of peoples’ pockets every day.

    Cell phones annoying and unnessisary? So it is annoying and unnessicary for people to be able to connect to each other when ever they want? For people to have an emergency contact device at all times? For the people on the air planes on 9/11 to be able to call their loved ones one last time? For me able to call my wife from Iraq wherever she was, at any time? For me to be able to talk to my friends almost when ever I want? Yes, all annoying and unnessisary.
    You sound like the dangerous one. Wanting to kill people for talking.

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  52. #52 |  Kristen | 

    I became an Apple hater when two of their products broke within 8 months of purchase (iPod – battery died [I shouldn’t hav eto mail my practically-brand-new product off for a new battery 8 months after I bought the P.O.S. and iPhone – ringer broke and it would only vibrate, so I missed a shitload of important calls).

    I went out and bought a Sansa MP3 player at 1/2 the price of an Apple iWhatever, and it’s still working 6 years later despite my abuse. And the battery still holds a charge even if I don’t use the thing for months.

  53. #53 |  Becon | 

    Regarding “This is a thing of beauty.”

    Not enough people to know how quick and simple it is for a lawyer to demolish these threats against the first amendment. A football blog I follow recently removed a parody of Bernard Berrian after threats from his his PR rep.

    I wish they would stand up and fight it instead.

  54. #54 |  Boyd Durkin | 


    Defending Steve Jobs is like defending Jordan as a great basketball player. You illuminate your ignorance with your statements against Jobs.

    No offense.

  55. #55 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    I honestly only use mine when I am out of town on business

    Why do you have to out of town for cleaning supplies?

  56. #56 |  NG | 

    The DC expired tags story is actually even worse than the article you linked to, which frankly missed the point.

    DC police are arresting people who happen to cross into DC with expired out-of-state registrations, even though those states could not arrest someone for the same offense. So a Maryland resident driving a car in Maryland with an expired Maryland registration could not be arrested, but if that same person happens to cross into DC, they suddenly can, even though DC has no legitimate interest in protecting the Maryland and Virginia car registration systems.

    Here’s another link that explains the situation a little better.

  57. #57 |  pierre | 

    Blah blah ifags.

  58. #58 |  buzz | 

    Anyone who thinks Jobs is well regarded because of a phone has completely ignored technical progress of the last 30 years or so.

    “The response was “well, since it’s theoretically possible for everyone to achieve at the same level, that means equality of opportunity exists. Just because it’s harder for some people doesn’t mean it’s not equal.”

    “That’s so true. I mean, it’s not like a rich kid who never got beaten or neglected or sexually assaulted or had a guy blow his brains out in front of him has any discernible advantages over this kid.”

    What in the world do you teach? Where in the first statement did you see anything about there being no discernible advantage having a enviable childhood rather than a horrific one. I hope whatever subject you teach does not include critical thinking.

  59. #59 |  Be Free | 

    Re: Federal judge lets CIA off the hook

    I have no love or sympathy for al-quaida terrorists. But torture is wrong. This country does some disgusting things to American citizens in its supermax prisons and to foreigners throughout the world. The government that lives off off us and represents us is a disgrace. What next? How about killing foreigners abroad – oh wait never mind we’re doing that too.

  60. #60 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    This is ridiculous. How much do you bench? I’m pretty sure you are still struggling with 225. That is weak!