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Thursday, September 29th, 2011
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  1. #1 |  Mattocracy | 

    As bad as governments agents are at respecting rights and freedoms, it’s become pretty obvious that they learned to treat people like shit while they were being educated at college.

  2. #2 |  Thom | 

    “The DEA said all of the officers involved in the raid were following procedure and did nothing wrong.”

    Well there you go then.

  3. #3 |  Michael Chaney | 

    “…and it so rarely needs a SWAT team that bearing the cost is impractical.”

    Of course, that applies to all but four or five cities in the US. The article that Radley linked to a couple of weeks ago (“you swat guys need to get out as many times as you can”) just proves it.

  4. #4 |  SJE | 

    The false confession and conviction story is, again, not just about the innocent being railroaded. It is about law enforcement being more interested in finding someone to blame rather than getting the actual criminals, who continue to commit more crimes.

  5. #5 |  WWJGD | 

    “People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don’t run, don’t walk. We’re in their homes and in their heads and we haven’t the right. We’re meddlesome.”

    Side note: anyone have any fun questions for IN Gov Mitch Daniels? Going to Q&A with him in a few hours. I want to press him on his pot past, a la this reason piece http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/02/mitch-daniels-pot-luck

  6. #6 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “# TSA/airport police in Indianapolis seize a breast cancer patient’s medical marijuana.”

    Sure, they look silly and inefficient prima facie. But they must be applauded for fulfilling their “larger” role of making non-terrorists (paying customers, no less) feel dirty and humiliated,an important component of any hostile, humorless Police State environment, such as American airports.
    I wonder how much toothpaste they seized today.

  7. #7 |  FridayNext | 

    If those cops had been from Vulcan, they would have behaved much better. (Someone was going to say it, so it might as well have been me.)

  8. #8 |  ParatrooperJJ | 

    I wonder if the Columbus police are being deputized as Special Deputy US Marshals? Fort Benning is under exclusive federal juristiction.

  9. #9 |  metro_girl | 

    okay, i’m a dum-bass. where is the link to ‘morning links’? so i can find the latest one every morning?

    metro_girl

  10. #10 |  Highway | 

    Wait, the DEA agents didn’t even have a warrant, and were trying to just bully their way in?

    Wow, as easy as it is to get a warrant sworn off, how lame / lazy do you have to be to not even bother?

  11. #11 |  FridayNext | 

    Idris Elba as James Bond?? Awesome in and of itself. Even better will be all those heads exploding by people who can’t handle traditionally white characters played by black actors.

  12. #12 |  metro_girl | 

    okay, so you updated your page just after i posted my query about where the page was. funny…

    metro_girl

  13. #13 |  Chris in AL | 

    We have to get over the idea that if police ‘followed procedure’ then they did nothing wrong. Wrong has been codified into the ‘procedure’.

  14. #14 |  JSL | 

    “DEA officials said every officer involved in the raid had vests with the word, ‘Police’ clearly marked, and that guns were out of their holsters but were not directly pointed at anyone in this case. ”

    Yeah, suuure…

  15. #15 |  Irving Washington | 

    That Turley article is just damned depressing. The only thing I ever thought Obama would get right was civil liberties. And Turley’s description of the Democrats treatment of civil liberties voters as a captive constituency is exactly mirrored by the GOP’s treatment of the libertarian wing. How did the Statists get so much power?

  16. #16 |  Anthony | 

    Chris,
    The people who determine that the followed procedure rarely ask if the procedure is right in the first place.

  17. #17 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    Hell, the My Lai Massacre went “according to procedure.”

  18. #18 |  Bob | 

    As I recall, the SWAT guys that invaded Cheye Calvo’s house didn’t have a warrant, either. It took them 3 days to gin one up after the mayor asked to see it.

    I have to assume that this is routine.

  19. #19 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Isn’t the first time in history that someone has actually answered the door before it was busted down?

    I mean we have a “knock-first” policy (I guess), but it is so laughably useless that maybe 1 out of 100,000 times someone can get to the door on time…only to be most likely shot in the head.

    So, why have a knock-first policy?

  20. #20 |  Jim | 

    Leonard Lopate interviewed Tankleff and his lawyer a few years ago. Interesting piece from what I recall:

    http://mediasearch.wnyc.org/m/20388241/marty-tankleff-17-years-of-wrongful-imprisonment-the-leonard-lopate-show-friday-11-july-2008.htm#q=tankleff

  21. #21 |  Frank Hummel | 

    “When asked if she thought the officers could have been imposters, Parker replied,”:

    Yes, when we told them they had the wrong house they just turned around and left.

  22. #22 |  Lori Wilson | 

    #10 Highway – I believe this is a direct quote (heard several times) from the “reality” TV series DEA shown over and over on TNT: “We are DEA, we can go anywhere at anytime.” Gee, I feel safer just repeating that.

  23. #23 |  KBCraig | 

    Nadia Habib might be the lowest priority for deportation, but she’s also low hanging fruit: she’s visible, cooperative, and trying to “work within the system” to be legal.

    In bureaucrat-think, she’s not even trying to get away with it, so they have no choice.

    Seriously, if she didn’t show up, and hadn’t gotten publicity, they wouldn’t go looking for her. But, she’s trying to “do the right thing” and not jeopardize her chances for readmission. News flash, Nadia: you’re screwed, and cooperating with the rapist doesn’t help. You might as well learn become fluent in Bangla, because you’re not coming back to the U.S.

    Legally, anyway.

  24. #24 |  Marty | 

    the cops in the asset forfeiture case used the money on a money-laundering business, hookers, and drugs. The only difference I see between them and the mob is that the mob’s smart enough to use accountants to help them hide their money.

  25. #25 |  Marty | 

    Every time I see ‘This seems like a bad idea’ in your posts, it feels like a girlfriend saying, ‘We need to talk’.

  26. #26 |  Jdub | 

    Re: poster – so an employer tells an employee how he may keep his workspace. It may be dickish, but I don’t understand the 1st amendment issue here.

    @paratrooper You don’t have to be a federal marshall to police a DOD installation. Columbus (and plenty of other bases) have long had agreements with local jurisdictions that some crime will always be refered locally, and some by the military. It’s been that way for decades, and is authorized in law and regulation. This particular agreement isn’t even unprecedented, if memory serves.

  27. #27 |  Jdub | 

    Benning i meant to say.

  28. #28 |  Vlad | 

    Jonathan Turley is a nudnik. Obama’s record on civil liberties is very poor, but hardly the worst ever. He didn’t force thousands of Native Americans to march down the Trail of Tears like Jackson, or put thousands of Americans into internment camps like FDR, or criminalize anti-war speech like Wilson.

    Make your case on the merits. When you gild the lily by calling something the “worst ever” that is not even close to the worst ever, it implicitly discredits the entire rest of your argument, and you lose the attention of people who might otherwise have been open to your position.

  29. #29 |  Vlad | 

    Also: Good news for the Habibs (the “star student” and her family mentioned in Radley’s post): http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/women-are-spared-deportation-to-bangladesh-for-now/

  30. #30 |  Amiable Dorsai | 

    Jdub, if the employer is the government, then, if they allow any posters at all (they do), then they must not indulge in viewpoint discrimination.

  31. #31 |  Leonson | 

    She’s getting deported and Obama’s uncle isn’t?

  32. #32 |  derfel cadarn | 

    I have no problem with buying either drugs or prostitutes,but these lowlife scumbags can`t even do it with their own money.

  33. #33 |  StrangeOne | 

    C’mon Vlad,

    He is the first president to not even bother getting congressional approval for his war. Even after already declaring them, previous presidents at least felt obligated to pretend like congress mattered. Besides hes still got till 2016 (suck it up, we all know its gonna happen) to really get into the worst of it. Most presidents don’t really go for broke on their war crimes until second term, and we got those death panels to look forward to.

    But seriously, how well a president does on civil liberties is relative. To use one of your examples, when Jackson did the trail of tears, it wasn’t exactly like we had been treating the Indians well up to that point. Jackson continued the already appalling treatment of the Indians by the US Government, he did not take away civil liberties from anyone who actually had them based upon how the government functioned at that time.

    I guess what I’m saying is that our history has been a process of expanding the rights of individuals and groups once maligned by the government. Thus I think that how well a president did on civil liberties issues must be taken into the context of whether they attempted to expand or reduce civil liberties within their time. Undoubtedly the post 9/11 years have seen the greatest reduction in civil liberties for the greatest number of Americans in our countries history.

    I guess I can be more forgiving of a president that continued the practice of slavery in the 1800′s because of the economic and cultural realities of the time, than I would be of a (hypothetical) president who tried to bring slavery back into practice in modern times. It’s not about the, admittedly terrible, things that occurred in the past. It’s about what efforts were made to improve the freedoms of people, or as is the case today, the continual assault on previously unassailable freedoms.

    Of course the president looks better than a figure from the 1800′s, women can vote, slavery is illegal, and official institutional racism is abolished. But he didn’t make those things happen, and he sure as hell isn’t improving anyone’s situation.

  34. #34 |  Rob Lyman | 

    Re: poster – so an employer tells an employee how he may keep his workspace. It may be dickish, but I don’t understand the 1st amendment issue here.

    Well, the employer here is the government, so there’s your 1st Amendment issue. Plus of course the “academic freedom” issue, which isn’t a legal one but certainly shouldn’t be ignored.

    And I’d classify that as more a “police professionalism” issue in any case, given that campus cops (who appear to be a certified police agency rather than private security) actually took the posters off of his door when he wasn’t there twice. I’m going to side with the cops much more often than many Agitator commenters, but not when they just rip down speech they don’t like.

  35. #35 |  jdub | 

    “Jdub, if the employer is the government, then, if they allow any posters at all (they do), then they must not indulge in viewpoint discrimination.”

    It doesn’t matter if it is a government org or not, the employee signed a contract agreeing to certain office standards. If they employee doesn’t like the standard, he may leave his job. In fact, I would bet even many libertarians here would agree that government employees should have certain rights curtailed, due to abuse of power and conflict of interest issues. Extreme example to illustrate my point: should the sitting Joint Chiefs of Staff be able to exercise a 1st amendment rights to endorse a candidate for president?

    For the record, I do think it was petty and a sign of bad leadership to support the poster stealing guard, I just don’t think there is much of a legal issue here.

    “Plus of course the “academic freedom” issue, which isn’t a legal one but certainly shouldn’t be ignored.”

    I buy that to a certain extent (and agree in this case). For the same reason I gave above, I still think it is permissible to abridge certain employee rights, even in a school. The teacher-student relationship is still basically one of leader-subordinate, so allowing outspoken political cheer-leading (not what happened here of course) could just as easily hinder academic freedom in the classroom as help it among faculty.

  36. #36 |  Stormy Dragon | 

    I’d like to know what brand of door and locks the Parkers used on their home, since thye seem very well built and sturdy.

  37. #37 |  Rob Lyman | 

    It doesn’t matter if it is a government org or not, the employee signed a contract agreeing to certain office standards.

    Well, the courts have thought about this issue pretty extensively, and whether or not you agree with them, this seems to fall outside of the government’s power to regulate employee conduct. It was not in-classroom, so there is no curricular control issue (they can hand him a script and tell him to read it in class and the First Amendment doesn’t care). It was not disruptive to the mission of the university (the big government-as-employer exception), nor could it reasonably be construed (unless you’re a paranoid nutjob) as a threat. That is doubly true of the second poster they removed, which was merely critical of “fascism.” And of course it wasn’t incitement to violence, fighting words, or any of the other traditional exceptions. I think he has a decent legal case.

    Also, the threatened DC charge is pretty offensive. That’s a perfectly fine thing to threaten him with if he’s wandering around campus drunk shouting at students about how hot they would look naked. But for a poster? Out of line.

    I actually find the professor himself kind of obnoxious, but he’s not the one tearing down other people’s stuff.

  38. #38 |  Stephen | 

    Lip reading Rick Perry. I thought this was hilarious. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhDhDRvHaGs

  39. #39 |  GreginOz | 

    Having fond memories of my Uni days in Sydney I sent the following email to that chancellor:
    http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5896/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8262

    Dear Chancellor Sorenson, what a serious breach of Liberty you have committed in the name of the Nanny State. Be ashamed. That ANY seat of higher learning has a fool as Captain is, simply, grotesque. Your milieu was perhaps East Germany when the STASI held sway. As a movie FIREFLY represents the eternal struggle for Liberty, Anti-Fascism & Individualism. You obviously bat for the Neocons in your now benighted nation!

    Yours in contempt

    GreginOz, Australia

    PS: Yes, your stupidity has gone international…

  40. #40 |  Rob | 

    I notice that the asset forfeiture case occurred in the city of Romulus.

    Does that mean that we can expect the investigation to be handed over to the Tal Shiar?

  41. #41 |  Be Free | 

    “Michigan police chief, five cops charged with using asset forfeiture money to purchase drugs, prostitutes.”

    Asset forfeiture has been one of the biggest scams ever. Police just seize whatever one has and make one prove it wasn’t the proceeds of an illegal activity. You and your assets are guilty unless you can prove otherwise. There is no way this can be fair just by the way it’s set up it has to breed corruption.

    As for the officers partying in ways that get many normal Americans arrested that’s pathetic too.

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