how about means testing the war profiteers, military and politicians?

jeeeebus

“We live under a massive, overarching system built to favor gigantic connected corporations over ordinary people. This is NOT a free market, it is a heavily commanded one. It is one that purposely undermines the plans of ordinary citizens in favor of the plans of the few lucky enough to have the ear of the politburo. It’s called “fiscal policy,” and it is that for which “liberal” “economist” Paul Krugman gets paid to propagandize. Sadly, progressives unwittingly agitate for MORE of this evil system, thinking they will ever hold the reins. They will not.”

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/08/22/dear-antiwar-progressives-we-are-with-you/

I could see if we all paid 25% although that still means people with higher incomes pay more money. Actual fairness would be if all 4 of us paid $12,000 not some varying number or percentage based on our income.

Point of fact, the State is always an organization of the owners of society to the detriment of everyone else. That is one of the many problems I have with the State. I don’t support a return to the Constitution or any other minarchist nonsense, nor do I argue which government programs are worth keeping or not.

As for “destroying all sovereign power,” the direction is clearly toward CONSOLIDATING all sovereign power in one global government owned by the world’s wealthiest individuals and families.

http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/Obvious.pdf

Truth is, though we live in an authoritarian society, at the individual level most if not damn near all human interactions are anarchic.

Such is the reason the entire country needs to be on a consumer tax basis. If yo purchase shit,then you pay taxes. If you don’t purchase shit, well then you don’t pay taxes.

I think the program is called the “fair tax” system. Like any massive changes would present some initial challenges, but would smooth out over the years.

That’s one way, the other way would probably be that some guys met him at the dock and strongly suggested he follow the rules and they might even beat him up if he refused. The thin is, everybody knows this and I’ve never seen anyone defy the rest of them. And I’m in Texas, we have a lot of guys who are bg and bad and can’t find work on land because they were in prison, yet this rule is alwyas followed. I’m not saying peer pressure alone would work at all levels of society or everywhere I’m just sharing how we do it without any official rules or mode of enforcement.

“If someone did it that would be end of their fishing career at least there.” But how does that happen? What mechanism is in place to end their fishing career? Are they intimidated? Their nets sabotaged? Are they blockaded? If any of those are the mechanism, then they are having their rights violated when they never violated the rights of another.

Commercial fishing has destroyed itself in many areas, and is busy destroying most of the remaining stocks of fish. I admittedly don’t know the full situation in US waters, but it’s a very contentious topic on this side of the Atlantic.

(I’m currently working with someone who spends two days a week helping to model fish stocks on a little project…)

But still, it’s an exception to most industry practices (and I’d want to see the catch and stock figures, too, before I’d be willing to entirely say I agreed).

@135 – Community Charge (the “Poll Tax”). Look it up.

I disagree.

I would have to say that of all the places I’ve worked (10 states in the eastern half of the country), the Detroit suburbs are the place where the drivers are the most polite (hard to believe, but if you need to get out of a parking lot in packed traffic, they’ll let you out). But on those occasions where I saw down traffic lights, which by the traffic ordinances is supposed to be treated as an all-way stop, even there the street that gets the intersection covered first just keeps flowing non-stop, preventing the cross traffic from getting through, until the police show up to direct traffic. I don’t know where you’ve seen such charitable behavior, but what I’ve noticed is this behavior is universal.