Pants-Wetting Roundup

Tuesday, August 16th, 2011
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  1. #1 |  Chris Hansen | 

    Radley, why don’t you take a seat.

  2. #2 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “Local news station fans hysteria after single man was spotted taking photos at a playground”

    So the news crews rush out to the park and take videos of little girls
    playing and they show it on TV. Good thing that dastardly perv didn’t
    shoot the same type of video!

  3. #3 |  Tom | 

    I am saddened by the fact that Texas was so well represented in the report of “Six dumb things schools are doing in the name of safety.” But I can’t say it is surprising. The government here in Texas is seized by a witch hunt mentality. It has a full grip on our Governor and infects all levels of officials.

  4. #4 |  Difster | 

    The jogger’s mistake is the funniest one of all. And I’m sure the women that made that call will defend their decision to the death; all in the name of SAFETY!

  5. #5 |  Chris in AL | 

    Jogger story: “Patrol deputies stopped the van and ran a criminal background check on its male occupants and found they had no warrants.”

    Once they found out they were delivering phone books, what is the probable cause to run criminal background checks?

  6. #6 |  JimBob | 

    I think you’re right, Difster. But let’s be honest– to get away from a truck that (according to the report) was, at that point, moving away from them, the joggers scaled a fence and ran toward one of the busiest freeways in northern California.

    This is how our society views safety nowadays.

  7. #7 |  mdb | 

    I have to say the fines in schools aren’t bad. In junior year in high school myself and 2 friends were given detentions for the remainder of the year (a single incident that in hind sight was worth it) – things went downhill fast once we realized there was nothing else that could be done to us. Shortly after this, we were called down to the vice principal’s office and told we would be fined $5 for every unserved detention. That was worse than detention and all infractions quickly stopped.

  8. #8 |  David | 

    Chris: they aren’t wearing police uniforms, so they were PROBABLY guilty of something. See? Probable cause.

  9. #9 |  David | 

    mdb: The difference is that a $5 is something you would reasonably expect the kid to pay himself. They’re losing something tangible. But six-fucking-hundred dollars? The kids aren’t paying that. The parents are. Some of the students might care about their parents having to spend hundreds of dollars because of them, but most probably do not.

  10. #10 |  mdb | 

    David: $5 per unserved detention. My fine was ~$125

  11. #11 |  Highway | 

    mdb, that’s still two orders of magnitude per occurrence. 5 bucks even now is lunch, or music, or part of a video game, or 20 text messages. It’s a figure kids can understand. $500 is a ‘check’ that you need your parents to write. And maybe that’s part of the motivation for that size of a fine, but it’s taking it out of the realm of things kids can understand and making it other people’s problem.

    Even with your 25 instances of skipping detention, you might have been able to scrape that amount up without telling your parents. And if you did have to tell your parents, you might have had to explain that “I had detention, but I skipped it 25 times.”

    I agree with David: a 5 dollar fine is something tangible for a kid. A 200 dollar fine isn’t.

  12. #12 |  Marty | 

    #4 | Difster – the rest of the story is (probably!) that these idiots also called the fire department on a couple families grilling dinner (‘Their house is on fire!’), called for an ambulance on a guy who was napping in his car while his wife was shopping (‘dead guy in a car!’), reported some spilled sugar as ‘ANTHRAX!!!’, reported a guy taking landscape photographs for ‘suspicious activity’, and called 2 lawyers because one of them broke her arm jumping some poor guy’s fence when she was ‘escaping’ from the phone book kidnappers. Idiots with cell phones wander around like Mr Magoo, leaving a a wake of destruction…

  13. #13 |  Matt | 

    #7

    (a single incident that in hind sight was worth it)

    I’d like to hear about this incident…

  14. #14 |  Zeb | 

    So why is taking pictures of children playing considered suspicious or dangerous? Has there ever been any case where a man photographing children has ever been even vaguely associated with later harm to the children who were photographed? I mean, even if the guy was a pervert, how is taking pictures of things taking place in public anyone’s business or a problem in any way?

  15. #15 |  Zeb | 

    The thing that really sticks with me from the “Dumb things schools are doing” article is that it is now considered normal that there are police in schools and that is normal and OK.

  16. #16 |  celticdragonchick | 

    The thing that really sticks with me from the “Dumb things schools are doing” article is that it is now considered normal that there are police in schools and that is normal and OK.

    Exactly.

  17. #17 |  Brandon | 

    The Agitator + Cracked = Zen.

  18. #18 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    The problem with the schools runs like this;

    Schools have ALWAYS been about indoctrination. They have always existed so that the Powers That Be can train the rising generation to be “Good Citizens” (whatever that may mean at any given moment). There used to be an unspoken agreement between the Schools and the Parents, along the lines of “We’ll be indoctrinating your kids, but we will ALSO teach them to read, write, and figure, so that they can climb up the ladder. The parents also had a good deal of input into their local schools. Consequently, the Parents were willing to trust the teachers with the authority to punish the kids.

    But the unspoken agreement broke down. The Powers That Be decided that parents shouldn’t be allowed local control of the schools (because they might Do It Wrong, such as neighborhood schools that were – surprise! – segregated by the tendency of people to group with people like themselves). And the Progressive teachers got seduced into paying far more attention to pop psychology than to the (boring) basics of reading, writing, etc. So the parents no longer trust the schools to discipline their kids. So the schools have to appeal to the Cops. And (as Radley has often pointed out) the Cops all too often think that they are living in Cannon Films action movie. Result; idiocy.

    This is really why the only solution I can see working is the spread of vouchers. If the parents CHOOSE the school, the school can reinstitute the bargain. The Statists HATE vouchers because they won’t be able to control what is taught. They would rather a population of pig-ignorant sheep that have been taught the party line than a population that can read and do basic math …. and so check things for themselves.

    THIS is what we owe “Reparations” to the inner city Blacks for. Not Slavery; nobody living was a slave in the Old South. But we allowed the Do-Gooders to ruin the inner city schools. they were bad before, but now they are a catastrophe. If I had money (I don’t) I would be looking for private charities that were trying to set up scholarships for the inner city poor. The more kids who get out of the public schools, the more data we will have showing that those schools are cesspits, and the more leverage we will have to spread vouchers far and wide.

    Until that happens, expect that the public schools will regularly produce idiocy whenever they try to control the students.

  19. #19 |  Bob | 

    #5 | Chris in AL

    Jogger story: “Patrol deputies stopped the van and ran a criminal background check on its male occupants and found they had no warrants.”

    Once they found out they were delivering phone books, what is the probable cause to run criminal background checks?

    Welcome to Amerika! Where any interaction with the police will get you checked for warrants.

    I was replacing a tire on the side of the road a few weeks ago. A State Trooper drove up. He took my Driver’s License and ran it for warrants. It’s just part of their job to collect info on pre-criminals.

  20. #20 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “I was replacing a tire on the side of the road a few weeks ago. A State Trooper drove up. He took my Driver’s License and ran it for warrants.”

    So if I break down and have the mojo to sweat out my own repair some ass is gonna do a background check on me? Scotty, beam me up.

  21. #21 |  Steamed McQueen | 

    @#19

    Yep, that’s pretty much the way it is now. Everyone is a suspect. Why? Because when officer Hardass runs your license and finds you have something outstanding BAM! Instant arrest without having to do any of that pesky, dangerous police work.

    Cops are and always have been lazy. This is why they always go after the low hanging fruit. They aren’t going to after the real baddies because they might get hurt, and as we all know officer safety is the top priority.

  22. #22 |  Leah | 

    #14 Zeb – That’s my take on it as well. I think I’m in about the 1% of parents who thinks that way. But really, the people who are all “never put a picture of a kid on the internet! Especially not in the bath/bathing suits!” just baffle me. I mean honestly, I do kind of get it a little. Skeevy flickr dudes with porny stuff in their photostream favoriting pictures of me breastfeeding my babies? That’s pretty gross and I do block them. But to never put up pictures of my kids because someone somewhere might use them? That’s too much. Depriving my parents of seeing pictures of their grandkids is not worth it to me. And there is absolutely no harm that is done to my kids if someone WERE to use their pictures in a skeevy way. People just can’t get past the gross feeling they get and actually weigh the good parts vs the bad parts. It’s just sad that that a mention of men photographing kids leads people to first think of sex offenders – people everywhere need to take their sex offender alert level off of red. Perhaps blue or something.

  23. #23 |  BamBam | 

    Police officer killed for allegedly trying to shoot man’s dogs
    http://www.dailypaul.com/174606/police-officer-killed-allegedly-trying-to-shot-mans-dogs

  24. #24 |  marta | 

    the most dangerous thing we do every day with our kids is strap them in the car. far more dangerous than letting them walk home from school, play outside, walk a couple blocks to the park or the corner store — all of which i let my 8 yo son do in our somewhat gritty urban neighborhood. yet no one suggests we should abandon our car culture to keep our kids safe….

  25. #25 |  marco73 | 

    I live across the street from a nervous nelly. She knows that some days I work out of my house, so it is not unusual for her to call me up for the silliest things. She is mostly harmless.
    Couple weeks ago, another neighbor was having their roof replaced. There were 3 or 4 trucks on the street, some with equipment trailers, and some with the name of the roofing company painted on the side. There were probably 8 to 10 guys working. They had 2 portable generators running, and there was some other equipment making a real racket.
    My neighbor called in an absolute tizzy – there were strange men walking up and down the street! – should she call the police!?!
    I calmly asked her if she noticed that there was roof work going on, right next door. Why, yes, that must be it. Never mind.
    The Emily Latellas of the world will always be with us.

  26. #26 |  Nemo_N | 

    Somewhat related, man rescues girl from kidnapper:

    http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s2242642.shtml

    Looks like the kidnapper did not carry a camera with him.

  27. #27 |  mdb | 

    $125 inflation adjusted from 1986 is $250 today (check out the minn fed). It was a lot of money for a 16 yo to hand over. Also I did pay without my parents knowing, because I was 16.

  28. #28 |  Emily Litella | 

    What’s all this fuss I keep hearing about roofers at parties? Why shouldn’t they be able to have fun with everyone else? Roofers are good, hardworking people. I even heard about this one poor gentleman who must have gotten hurt at a party. They said a roofer slipped and…

    What’s that?

    Slipped a roofie? Oh. Well that’s different then.

    Never mind.

  29. #29 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    RE: Dumb things schools are doing in the name of safety…

    Hmm, electronic monitoring devices and prison jump suits for dress code violations. Man, the schools are getting these kids ready to enter the criminal justice system mighty early. Well, thanks to the drug war and other the other victimless crimes in this country, many of these kids are bound to end up in the system. I guess college prep material is being replaced by penitentiary prep these days.

  30. #30 |  marco73 | 

    Oh Gilda, Gilda, how we’ve missed you.

  31. #31 |  Mannie | 

    I’m glad my kids have graduated college. They’re safe from the idiocy. My pet peeve is zero tolerance policies. Zero tolerance equals zero brains.

    The good news is that all schools are not so insane. My grandson got busted with a couple of kids, playing with a pocket knife. They were preparing firewood, playing “Survivor Guy.” (See, TV is a bad influence.) They got yelled at, and the knife was given to the owner’s parents. In other districts, they would have called in SWAT. (Except there were no puppies to shoot.)

  32. #32 |  Mannie | 

    #9 | David | August 16th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    mdb: The difference is that a $5 is something you would reasonably expect the kid to pay himself. They’re losing something tangible.

    I agree. When I was in the Army (Served under Sherman, I did.) we had a big problem with guys being careless and losing small bits of equipment, magazine pouches and stuff. I started a policy where we would police the stuff up and sell it back to them for a quarter an item. Funds went into an almost certainly illegal fund kept in a locked ammo can. When we had enough, we would have a platoon party.

    Equipment stopped being lost and I had to foot the bill for the party, because the fund only collected about three bucks.

  33. #33 |  Mannie | 

    #18 | C. S. P. Schofield | August 16th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    THIS is what we owe “Reparations” to the inner city Blacks for. Not Slavery; nobody living was a slave in the Old South. But we allowed the Do-Gooders to ruin the inner city schools. they were bad before, but now they are a catastrophe.

    Consider that stolen!

  34. #34 |  central texas | 

    All those who would volunteer to load an app from the FBI on their personal phone, raise your hand…

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