Comment of the Day

Sunday, July 31st, 2011

A commenter who seems to come over here from Balloon Juice (at least according to previous comments left under his IP address) posits the real reason I took an interest in Cory Maye:

well, if a story advanced by libertarians and left wingers (Mr. Blako’s interviews, according to Mr. maye’s Wiki page, are with lefties, not righties) helps make Reason seem like a neutral arbiter of evetns (instead of a Republican functionary organization), then more people might listen to them and the Koch brothers financing of Cato, AEI, and Reason will help them have more influence and this more wealth.

[sic all around]

Well, shit. The gig is up. I’m sure I’ll hear about this during tomorrow morning’s Koch conspiracy conference call.

 

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27 Responses to “Comment of the Day”

  1. #1 |  Chuchundra | 

    And you would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for those meddling kids.

  2. #2 |  AMB | 

    This example beautifully highlights why one should never argue with conspiracy theorists. It’s not that they haven’t seen the evidence that disproves their theories, it’s that they’re theories won’t even admit of evidence strong enough. So no matter how good the counter argument might be, they simply haven’t the eyes to see it.

    Robert Anton Wilson writes about this very lucidly in the foreword to “Everything is Under Control”. All conspiracy theories, at heart, share in common the fact that they cannot be debunked thoroughly enough because there is some central figure (e.g. the Illuminati or the Koch Brothers) that is so powerful that it undercuts the believers entire ontology.

    For people like your commenter, the Koch Brothers have become so powerful that they, God-like, can do anything. This raises their conspiracy theories out of the realm of reason and politics and plonks them down squarely in the realm of theology.

  3. #3 |  Florida Cynic | 

    Seriously, Radley, I do not understand your fixation on Balloon Juice. Cole is an intemperate ass, and his comment section is filled with morons, loons, and Daily Kos refugees.

  4. #4 |  freebob | 

    Partisanship rots the brain.
    One of the last times Balko linked to Balloon Juice a couple of the comments there were sure that Balko and everyone at Reason lived decadent, hedonistic lives — like all right-wingers do — and that was the only reason they cared about civil liberties.
    A rule: if your first reaction to a political story is to make baseless accusations, or to throw out ‘liberals do it’ or ‘George Bush was a worse president’, shut up because you’re an idiot.

    #2: Even when you can debunk something, to these people that’s only proof how deep “it” goes.

  5. #5 |  Lefty | 

    the right/left dichotomy is pretty entrenched. When it comes to libertarians most people just aren’t going to be able to see that they’re dealing with a new animal that sometimes agrees with the left and sometimes with the right. We live a a somewhat stupid country where movies like The Tree of Life come with disclaimers because so many people failed to understand any of it.

    Unfortunately the xians took over the Tea Party because that’s what a lot of people think libertarians are.

  6. #6 |  Cyto | 

    #2 | AMB | July 31st, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    This example beautifully highlights why one should never argue with conspiracy…

    Oh yeah?!? Well… Koch!

    Yeah, that’s right. I showed you!

  7. #7 |  Ariel | 

    Trust me, I can get the meaning in “The Tree of Life”. I understood Kafka’s “The Metamorphosis” initially, then looked at the German version and realized the term for Gregor Samsa meant “vermin” and “out of the sight of God”. So many levels with one word.

    However, a “middle-aged man’s childhood memories of his family living in 1950s Texas, interspersed with imagery of the origins of the universe and the inception of life on Earth” just screams pretension and pretentious so I passed when I read my paper’s review (I quoted Wiki because it said it so much better than I could).

    Not to mention that I am starting to put my money where my mouth is, so I have a hard time funding “is my boat really sinking” Penn and “the Goebbels of Scientology” Cruise. OK, I give Travolta a pass, but, hey, I’m human. Can’t track everyone.

  8. #8 |  Joey Maloney | 

    Nutpicking? Really?

  9. #9 |  lefty | 

    Your loss. It was a great movie. Tom Cruise wasn’t in it. But that’s beside the point that a frightening number of people were utterly baffled by it.

  10. #10 |  David | 

    He’s figured you out, Radley. I guess you should stop pretending to care about people suffering injustice at the hands of the government and get back to your plans for world domination.

  11. #11 |  steve | 

    A more interesting question is, if the Koch brothers came a knocking with oodles of money and only a few “suggestions, to give you a wider audience”. What would you do? Of course it probably comes down to what the suggestions are. Not all your opinions have to be lines in the sand.
    But, if they wanted to pay me to write the stuff I already write, then why not join the conspiracy.

  12. #12 |  David McElroy | 

    I don’t argue with people like that, because they’re obviously under the influence of the NWO’s chemtrails project. They can’t think anymore, unlike those of us staking out the FEMA camps they’re about to send us all to. The Cokes don’t have anything to do with it. Pepsis, either.

  13. #13 |  Jim Fryar | 

    You will have to be more discreet in future Balco.

    Those of us who are involved in the vast libertarian/left/right/Koch conspiracy to destabilise the state and plunge the world into an unthinking orgy of anarchy and hedonistic pleasure are becoming somewhat disturbed at your constant revelations of our existence.

    Consider this our final warning. Other than that, well done.

  14. #14 |  Xenocles | 

    I suppose one good spinoff of the Koch Conspiracy is a phone system capable of handling a massive conference call.

  15. #15 |  Collin | 

    It amuses me that the those on the Left who mock people who see the nefarious hand of George Soros behind every plot and conspiracy turn around and see the nefarious hand of the Koch brothers behind every plot and conspiracy with no sense of perspective or irony.

  16. #16 |  marco73 | 

    Radley – sorry to have to communicate in the clear. Koch Conspiracy Conf Call (KCCC) moved up to 9am EST.
    Use the Batphone.

  17. #17 |  albatross | 

    Is there any way we can get a photo of, say, the Koch brothers, George Soros, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, and Carlos Slim, all in the same room? Imagine the ways different conspiracy theories could recombine, subject to that picture. (Presmably, the whole meeting would be hosted by Goldman.). And are there still any Rothschilds around? Or Rockefellers?

  18. #18 |  Johnny Clamboat | 

    Lefty @ #5: “When it comes to libertarians most people just aren’t going to be able to see that they’re dealing with a new animal that sometimes agrees with the left and sometimes with the right.”

    Mostly, we do not agree with either of you. I’m not fiscally conservative nor socially liberal. I’m fiscally and socially libertarian. There’s a huge difference.

  19. #19 |  GaryM | 

    I’m old enough to remember that in the sixties, those who stood up against injustices against black people were often accused of ulterior motives. Some things haven’t changed.

  20. #20 |  Aresen | 

    Jim Fryar | August 1st, 2011 at 2:07 am

    Those of us who are involved in the vast libertarian/left/right/Koch conspiracy to destabilise the state and plunge the world into an unthinking orgy of anarchy and hedonistic pleasure are becoming somewhat disturbed at your constant revelations of our existence.

    However, we’re too busy enjoying the “unthinking orgy of anarchy and hedonistic pleasure” to do anything about it.

  21. #21 |  Kristen | 

    I wish I had the life these people accuse me of having. Gobs of money, hedonistic pleasures of all kinds, oodles of leisure time. Who wouldn’t aspire to that?

  22. #22 |  Difster | 

    Mr. Blakeo eh?

    I think you’re going to have to create an alter ego named Raldey Blako.

  23. #23 |  Pat | 

    Damn you Blako, I was hoping for a short conference call tomorrow, if it is going to be longer than half an hour it is on your head.

  24. #24 |  Casey | 

    Ok, I’m full-blown cornfused, now. Does this prove Radley is a fanatic reich-wingnut, or is he a lunatic moonbat?

    This sort of thing keeps me up at night, and I need my sleep…

    Two slightly more serious observations; first, the right/left paradigm hasn’t held any validity since before 1800. Second, Jerry Pournelle is -I think- onto something when he observes that libertarianism is a vector, not a goal.

  25. #25 |  Medicine Man | 

    This is just a good example of what politically-induced paranoia looks like.

  26. #26 |  John C. Randolph | 

    The Koch brothers have done more to advance the cause of freedom than all the left-wingers in the history of half-hearted anti-war protests. Sure, I’d rather they never had that falling out with Murray Rothbard, but so what? They’re still doing a lot of good in the world.

    -jcr

  27. #27 |  John C. Randolph | 

    BTW, where’s the control for this conference room chair that drops the guy next to me into the shark tank? I’m sick of his stupid monocle and siamese cat.

    -jcr

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