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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob S</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1380873</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Headline of the Day also hosts the Twit of the Day.  Check this dribble: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8653962/Scientists-warn-of-Planet-of-the-Apes-scenario.html#comment-266491730  /facepalm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline of the Day also hosts the Twit of the Day.  Check this dribble: <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8653962/Scientists-warn-of-Planet-of-the-Apes-scenario.html#comment-266491730" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8653962/Scientists-warn-of-Planet-of-the-Apes-scenario.html#comment-266491730</a>  /facepalm</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Wolfeson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1379570</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Wolfeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People are overlooking something in the cooking argument - fuel costs. The microwave is an amazingly cheap way to prepare meals compared to the hob. And oven? Ouch.

I spend, combined costs, under £3 a day on food. It&#039;s not easy, even in the UK. But, for example, I can get 1kg bags of organic frozen vegetables for £1...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are overlooking something in the cooking argument &#8211; fuel costs. The microwave is an amazingly cheap way to prepare meals compared to the hob. And oven? Ouch.</p>
<p>I spend, combined costs, under £3 a day on food. It&#8217;s not easy, even in the UK. But, for example, I can get 1kg bags of organic frozen vegetables for £1&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BSK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1378469</link>
		<dc:creator>BSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 04:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big A-

That is the million dollar question.  Part of the issue is not only figuring out how to educate people, but first figuring out how to inform people that they need to be education (GOD that sounds presumptuous and patronizing, ugh!).  What I mean is that many people think they know what is healthy and what isn&#039;t.  They all took health class and learned the food pyramid, didn&#039;t they?  They ordered a diet coke with their Big Mac, no?  They look for the Trix boxes that scream &quot;NOW WITH WHOLE GRAIN!&quot;  Now, these people aren&#039;t stupid; they&#039;ve simply been inundated with bad information, much of it coming from (drumroll please!) THE GOVERNMENT!  But it is very hard to have someone unlearn something, especially when they&#039;ve believed it to be true for most of their lives.

Obviously, there are others who probably know they eat an unhealthy diet but simply don&#039;t care or have bought into the propaganda that they can&#039;t really do much better for themselves (too expensive; too hard; not tasty) or underestimate the short- and long-term effects of their food choices.  Those people might be easier to teach but are also far more likely to suffer from inertia.

This situation isn&#039;t unique to food... how many people still smoke?  Use dangerous drugs?  Drink too much?  Drive too fast?  Practice unsafe sex?  Do generally stupid and dangerous things?  Some of these practices have had wars waged against them!  Yet they persist.  Because, in the end, people are going to follow what motivates them.  For some, that is the enjoyment of a home-cooked, tasty meal.  For others, it is the feelings that come from a healthy lifestyle.  More still will seek quick, easy, tasty foods.  And if any of us truly new the secret to motivating people to do the &quot;right&quot; thing, they&#039;d be billionaires by now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big A-</p>
<p>That is the million dollar question.  Part of the issue is not only figuring out how to educate people, but first figuring out how to inform people that they need to be education (GOD that sounds presumptuous and patronizing, ugh!).  What I mean is that many people think they know what is healthy and what isn&#8217;t.  They all took health class and learned the food pyramid, didn&#8217;t they?  They ordered a diet coke with their Big Mac, no?  They look for the Trix boxes that scream &#8220;NOW WITH WHOLE GRAIN!&#8221;  Now, these people aren&#8217;t stupid; they&#8217;ve simply been inundated with bad information, much of it coming from (drumroll please!) THE GOVERNMENT!  But it is very hard to have someone unlearn something, especially when they&#8217;ve believed it to be true for most of their lives.</p>
<p>Obviously, there are others who probably know they eat an unhealthy diet but simply don&#8217;t care or have bought into the propaganda that they can&#8217;t really do much better for themselves (too expensive; too hard; not tasty) or underestimate the short- and long-term effects of their food choices.  Those people might be easier to teach but are also far more likely to suffer from inertia.</p>
<p>This situation isn&#8217;t unique to food&#8230; how many people still smoke?  Use dangerous drugs?  Drink too much?  Drive too fast?  Practice unsafe sex?  Do generally stupid and dangerous things?  Some of these practices have had wars waged against them!  Yet they persist.  Because, in the end, people are going to follow what motivates them.  For some, that is the enjoyment of a home-cooked, tasty meal.  For others, it is the feelings that come from a healthy lifestyle.  More still will seek quick, easy, tasty foods.  And if any of us truly new the secret to motivating people to do the &#8220;right&#8221; thing, they&#8217;d be billionaires by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Big A</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1377033</link>
		<dc:creator>Big A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#54 BSK- You&#039;re certainly right. But how to get the word out? Seems like for anything you can think of that you want done- there&#039;s someone who is trained or experienced enough to do it really, really well. What people provide the service of educating lots of people at once?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#54 BSK- You&#8217;re certainly right. But how to get the word out? Seems like for anything you can think of that you want done- there&#8217;s someone who is trained or experienced enough to do it really, really well. What people provide the service of educating lots of people at once?</p>
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		<title>By: Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1376763</link>
		<dc:creator>Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Chaney, that&#039;s a good solution for you, and it&#039;s a good thing for people to consider. But many people would not be happy eating the same thing 3 days in a row, and wastage of leftovers is a significant waste of money for people.  So if someone has that intention, but will not follow through on it, they&#039;re not saving anything by making enough for multiple meals, they&#039;re coming out behind the curve.  

So it&#039;s a good thing to suggest, as well as things like &quot;If you&#039;re grilling chicken, grill twice as much as you need, eat the grilled chicken one day, and make chicken salad or something else with some of the leftovers&quot; enough to change what you&#039;re eating.  This works very well with proteins, which are probably the more annoying things to cook for people.  But I think it has to be accompanied with being honest and realistic about the effort required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Chaney, that&#8217;s a good solution for you, and it&#8217;s a good thing for people to consider. But many people would not be happy eating the same thing 3 days in a row, and wastage of leftovers is a significant waste of money for people.  So if someone has that intention, but will not follow through on it, they&#8217;re not saving anything by making enough for multiple meals, they&#8217;re coming out behind the curve.  </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a good thing to suggest, as well as things like &#8220;If you&#8217;re grilling chicken, grill twice as much as you need, eat the grilled chicken one day, and make chicken salad or something else with some of the leftovers&#8221; enough to change what you&#8217;re eating.  This works very well with proteins, which are probably the more annoying things to cook for people.  But I think it has to be accompanied with being honest and realistic about the effort required.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1376734</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot on, Dave.

As for the cooking discussion, I will add that cooking might take time, but my wife and I make up for it by cooking at least 2 or 3 meals worth of food at one time, and then reheating leftovers.  If it takes 30 minutes to cook 3 meals, that&#039;s only 10 minutes per meal.  I don&#039;t care where you live, the overhead of going to a restaurant is going to be that much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, Dave.</p>
<p>As for the cooking discussion, I will add that cooking might take time, but my wife and I make up for it by cooking at least 2 or 3 meals worth of food at one time, and then reheating leftovers.  If it takes 30 minutes to cook 3 meals, that&#8217;s only 10 minutes per meal.  I don&#8217;t care where you live, the overhead of going to a restaurant is going to be that much.</p>
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		<title>By: JOR</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1376723</link>
		<dc:creator>JOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sympathetic to the right at all, particularly not the sort of people to whine about &quot;cultural Marxism&quot;, feminism, or the Imminent Jihad, but the right-wing asshats are adjusting to the actual facts of the case a little bit better than the gliberal dipshits who wanted Loughner to be a Teabagger so badly they kept pretending he was until it was no longer possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sympathetic to the right at all, particularly not the sort of people to whine about &#8220;cultural Marxism&#8221;, feminism, or the Imminent Jihad, but the right-wing asshats are adjusting to the actual facts of the case a little bit better than the gliberal dipshits who wanted Loughner to be a Teabagger so badly they kept pretending he was until it was no longer possible.</p>
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		<title>By: BSK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1376691</link>
		<dc:creator>BSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big A-

I think, in the end, education is likely to be the most impactful approach.  However, we have seen how well the government (federal in particular) has done when it comes to reaching the poor masses about healthy choices...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big A-</p>
<p>I think, in the end, education is likely to be the most impactful approach.  However, we have seen how well the government (federal in particular) has done when it comes to reaching the poor masses about healthy choices&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Big A</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-2/#comment-1376661</link>
		<dc:creator>Big A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#47 Dave- I&#039;m waiting for when poor people are forced to drive vehicles with low gas mileage because they can&#039;t afford anything better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 Dave- I&#8217;m waiting for when poor people are forced to drive vehicles with low gas mileage because they can&#8217;t afford anything better.</p>
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		<title>By: Big A</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376648</link>
		<dc:creator>Big A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#45 Highway- I think you nailed it with &#039;inertia to change&#039;. It&#039;s not that people like what they&#039;re eating so much, or have already weighed the benefits of convenience against cost or health. It&#039;s more that they haven&#039;t considered how much difference little changes can make. Furthermore, this message that people can be too poor to eat healthily is heard and understood by poor people. I wonder how many of them believe it without having nosed around in the produce section in a few years. Or whether someone trying an arugula salad would be looked down upon for eating &quot;out of class&quot;. Finally, trying new things is a luxury that I think many poor people don&#039;t realize is often not expensive. Eating new things or even going to new places can usually be done more cheaply than expected (i.e. waiting for something to go on sale, free museum days etc). Maybe people who&#039;s finances are already stretched just aren&#039;t used to having luxuries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45 Highway- I think you nailed it with &#8216;inertia to change&#8217;. It&#8217;s not that people like what they&#8217;re eating so much, or have already weighed the benefits of convenience against cost or health. It&#8217;s more that they haven&#8217;t considered how much difference little changes can make. Furthermore, this message that people can be too poor to eat healthily is heard and understood by poor people. I wonder how many of them believe it without having nosed around in the produce section in a few years. Or whether someone trying an arugula salad would be looked down upon for eating &#8220;out of class&#8221;. Finally, trying new things is a luxury that I think many poor people don&#8217;t realize is often not expensive. Eating new things or even going to new places can usually be done more cheaply than expected (i.e. waiting for something to go on sale, free museum days etc). Maybe people who&#8217;s finances are already stretched just aren&#8217;t used to having luxuries.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376570</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a professional journalist but thanks to Radley I know know an inappropriate use of an anonymous source when I see it:

Slate vaccination article quoting the WaPo:

&quot;People need to put this into some perspective,&quot; said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. &quot;The vaccination campaign was part of the hunt for the world&#039;s top terrorist, and nothing else. If the United States hadn&#039;t shown this kind of creativity, people would be scratching their heads asking why it hadn&#039;t used all tools at its disposal to find bin Laden.&quot;

Did anyone else catch it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a professional journalist but thanks to Radley I know know an inappropriate use of an anonymous source when I see it:</p>
<p>Slate vaccination article quoting the WaPo:</p>
<p>&#8220;People need to put this into some perspective,&#8221; said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. &#8220;The vaccination campaign was part of the hunt for the world&#8217;s top terrorist, and nothing else. If the United States hadn&#8217;t shown this kind of creativity, people would be scratching their heads asking why it hadn&#8217;t used all tools at its disposal to find bin Laden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did anyone else catch it?</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those people who are donating money to the gub&#039;mint are not poor saps; they are fucking idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people who are donating money to the gub&#8217;mint are not poor saps; they are fucking idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376520</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That dog might have been melting, but this one has found its own solution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=zt7rXE9vhNY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dog might have been melting, but this one has found its own solution:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=zt7rXE9vhNY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=zt7rXE9vhNY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376332</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mind anyone who says they have to pay more if they want the convenience of food they can just heat up in the microwave or get from a drive-up window.  I just don&#039;t buy the argument that they&#039;re forced to eat high-calorie foods because they&#039;re too poor to eat healthy.   I don&#039;t even consider flavor a factor because flavor is something everyone has to contend with, rich or poor.  Of course it&#039;s true that people tend to get fat when they consume lots of tasty sugar and fat, but that&#039;s different than claiming they are forced to eat sugar and fat because they can&#039;t afford healthier foods.

Christ, the first time I heard the argument I laughed out loud.  It&#039;s gotten to the point where poor people are never responsible for their own plight and now we&#039;re supposed to believe that one of the horrors of poverty in the U.S. is being over-fed because they&#039;re too poor not to be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind anyone who says they have to pay more if they want the convenience of food they can just heat up in the microwave or get from a drive-up window.  I just don&#8217;t buy the argument that they&#8217;re forced to eat high-calorie foods because they&#8217;re too poor to eat healthy.   I don&#8217;t even consider flavor a factor because flavor is something everyone has to contend with, rich or poor.  Of course it&#8217;s true that people tend to get fat when they consume lots of tasty sugar and fat, but that&#8217;s different than claiming they are forced to eat sugar and fat because they can&#8217;t afford healthier foods.</p>
<p>Christ, the first time I heard the argument I laughed out loud.  It&#8217;s gotten to the point where poor people are never responsible for their own plight and now we&#8217;re supposed to believe that one of the horrors of poverty in the U.S. is being over-fed because they&#8217;re too poor not to be?</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376266</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;the CIA showed an enormous amount of self restraint by not using the opportunity to conduct secret medical experiments (that we know of).
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was brought up, but they noted we live in a Wikileaks World* now and they all cursed and shook their fists at the sky.

*Uhm...but...you know Wikileaks hasn&#039;t had any impact at all and is just overblown hype.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the CIA showed an enormous amount of self restraint by not using the opportunity to conduct secret medical experiments (that we know of).
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<p>It was brought up, but they noted we live in a Wikileaks World* now and they all cursed and shook their fists at the sky.</p>
<p>*Uhm&#8230;but&#8230;you know Wikileaks hasn&#8217;t had any impact at all and is just overblown hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376205</link>
		<dc:creator>Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We do have to remember that we&#039;re talking about people who all have very different circumstances.  And primarily, these articles are talking about poor urban families.  That means children who don&#039;t have much experience with complex flavors or desire to try something new, parents who don&#039;t have a lot of time and energy, locations that are not conducive to convenient, well-stocked markets, and inertia against changing.

I really think that if it was sold as a &#039;Spend one hour a day maximum and you&#039;ll eat better and healthier and enjoy it more&#039; that it would get more traction, rather than cherry picking recipes and techniques that are faster but don&#039;t result in an appropriate meal for everyone.  

Thinking a little more broadly, I wonder if maybe trying to get schools to cut down on homework assigned would help.  I&#039;ve been shocked seeing the amount of homework that all children are expected to do for grade schools.  This can take a lot of attention away from other household activities, especially something like food preparation, which children as young as 7 or 8 can assist with.  If this is a priority, then it has to take priority over something else.  But there are so many &#039;priorities&#039; now: food, sleep, school, health and dental, and every single one is considered &#039;most important&#039; by the people pushing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have to remember that we&#8217;re talking about people who all have very different circumstances.  And primarily, these articles are talking about poor urban families.  That means children who don&#8217;t have much experience with complex flavors or desire to try something new, parents who don&#8217;t have a lot of time and energy, locations that are not conducive to convenient, well-stocked markets, and inertia against changing.</p>
<p>I really think that if it was sold as a &#8216;Spend one hour a day maximum and you&#8217;ll eat better and healthier and enjoy it more&#8217; that it would get more traction, rather than cherry picking recipes and techniques that are faster but don&#8217;t result in an appropriate meal for everyone.  </p>
<p>Thinking a little more broadly, I wonder if maybe trying to get schools to cut down on homework assigned would help.  I&#8217;ve been shocked seeing the amount of homework that all children are expected to do for grade schools.  This can take a lot of attention away from other household activities, especially something like food preparation, which children as young as 7 or 8 can assist with.  If this is a priority, then it has to take priority over something else.  But there are so many &#8216;priorities&#8217; now: food, sleep, school, health and dental, and every single one is considered &#8216;most important&#8217; by the people pushing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376204</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley,

Your declaration that Adam Serwer&#039;s post was the &quot;best take yet&quot; on the whole Oslo thing is immensely disturbing. In his post, he demonizes--without a single shred of evidence, which I thought you valued immensely--Robert Spencer of www.jihadwatch.org. There is no justification for this. Robert Spencer has never demonized Muslims and is not an &quot;Islamophobe&quot; (whatever that loaded term means, anyway). He has never promoted violence in any way and has actively disavowed any ties to any violent organizations in the past and present. Your support of demonization without evidence is unfortunate. Please consider reading Robert Spencer&#039;s response to the ridiculous allegations against him before taking anything Serwer says seriously.

Sincerely, a big fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,</p>
<p>Your declaration that Adam Serwer&#8217;s post was the &#8220;best take yet&#8221; on the whole Oslo thing is immensely disturbing. In his post, he demonizes&#8211;without a single shred of evidence, which I thought you valued immensely&#8211;Robert Spencer of <a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org</a>. There is no justification for this. Robert Spencer has never demonized Muslims and is not an &#8220;Islamophobe&#8221; (whatever that loaded term means, anyway). He has never promoted violence in any way and has actively disavowed any ties to any violent organizations in the past and present. Your support of demonization without evidence is unfortunate. Please consider reading Robert Spencer&#8217;s response to the ridiculous allegations against him before taking anything Serwer says seriously.</p>
<p>Sincerely, a big fan.</p>
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		<title>By: BSK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1376074</link>
		<dc:creator>BSK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MattJ-

True that.  I sometimes still use what I call the &quot;homeless man pot&quot;.  Take the lid off, peel the label off the side of the can and get as much glue as you can off it, pop it right on the burner, and cook away.  Works for soups, beans, Spaghetti-Os.  Not quite as quick as your method, but at least you have hot food!  You usually do need a bowl afterward or you risk burning yourself on the can and it can be awkward to eat, but it does save a pot.  To your point about filling up with veggies first, I&#039;d recommend tossing a little bit of olive oil (or another dressing with healthy fat in it) or nuts or avocado on your salad.  Research shows that getting some healthy fats into your body at the beginning of the meals helps your full-reflex kick in sooner.  For other meals, you can throw peanut butter on your toast or a handful of almonds down before a sandwich.  You&#039;ll be surprised how much easier it is to control your portions with that base.

I think many people would be surprised to learn the things they can make at home that are cheaper and better than they get at the store and require very little work (though sometimes less common tools).  Peanut butter requires two to three ingredients and a food processor.  Fantastic soups can be made very easily from pre-made kits or from a handful of ingredients with very little prep or active work.  Make your own pasta sauce in minutes.  Granola is a piece of cake, though can be a bit labor intensive.

But, again, people who don&#039;t want to do the work won&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattJ-</p>
<p>True that.  I sometimes still use what I call the &#8220;homeless man pot&#8221;.  Take the lid off, peel the label off the side of the can and get as much glue as you can off it, pop it right on the burner, and cook away.  Works for soups, beans, Spaghetti-Os.  Not quite as quick as your method, but at least you have hot food!  You usually do need a bowl afterward or you risk burning yourself on the can and it can be awkward to eat, but it does save a pot.  To your point about filling up with veggies first, I&#8217;d recommend tossing a little bit of olive oil (or another dressing with healthy fat in it) or nuts or avocado on your salad.  Research shows that getting some healthy fats into your body at the beginning of the meals helps your full-reflex kick in sooner.  For other meals, you can throw peanut butter on your toast or a handful of almonds down before a sandwich.  You&#8217;ll be surprised how much easier it is to control your portions with that base.</p>
<p>I think many people would be surprised to learn the things they can make at home that are cheaper and better than they get at the store and require very little work (though sometimes less common tools).  Peanut butter requires two to three ingredients and a food processor.  Fantastic soups can be made very easily from pre-made kits or from a handful of ingredients with very little prep or active work.  Make your own pasta sauce in minutes.  Granola is a piece of cake, though can be a bit labor intensive.</p>
<p>But, again, people who don&#8217;t want to do the work won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: MattJ</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1375843</link>
		<dc:creator>MattJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to put my $0.02 in as someone who has switched from the regular restaurant-goer and prepared food eater to someone who mostly cooks his own stuff.  

First, I made the switch in order to lose weight.  It worked - I dropped from 245 to about 200 and have stayed there.  

Second, making this switch has saved me a potload of money.  Can&#039;t recommend it enough.  A portion of that is that the food I&#039;m eating is cheaper, and a portion is because I&#039;m eating less food overall.

Third, there are ways to cook that can save time.  When I was eating less healthful food, I cooked just as much as I do now, but I was cooking crap.  (Hamburger helper, spaghetti, etc)  Now if I still cook some of that stuff, it&#039;s because I eat much smaller servings, which brings me to...

Fourth, and this is a big one, in my opinion.  You can make a HUGE change towards more healthful (and less expensive) eating by doing the following.  Prepare a simple, raw-vegetable salad and eat a bunch of it before every meal so that there&#039;s less room in your gut for crap.  Don&#039;t put a bunch of dressing or cheese or croutons on it - just fill your gut half-full of leafy greens, tomatos, carrots, cucumbers, etc.  Prep time is significant, but not daily if you make a big enough salad, and all you need is a sink, an knife, and a cutting board.  Then balance your meal with the same stuff you always eat, but cut back to half, or a third.

BSK-I am living proof that one can eat Spaghetti-O&#039;s without dirtying anything other than a spoon.  Back when I was eating them, I found them to be fine at room temperature - I started eating them that way when I was a pre-teen and continued until grad school.  Total prep time - as long as it takes to run a can opener.  Total clean up time - as long as it takes to throw the can away and put the spoon into the dishwasher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to put my $0.02 in as someone who has switched from the regular restaurant-goer and prepared food eater to someone who mostly cooks his own stuff.  </p>
<p>First, I made the switch in order to lose weight.  It worked &#8211; I dropped from 245 to about 200 and have stayed there.  </p>
<p>Second, making this switch has saved me a potload of money.  Can&#8217;t recommend it enough.  A portion of that is that the food I&#8217;m eating is cheaper, and a portion is because I&#8217;m eating less food overall.</p>
<p>Third, there are ways to cook that can save time.  When I was eating less healthful food, I cooked just as much as I do now, but I was cooking crap.  (Hamburger helper, spaghetti, etc)  Now if I still cook some of that stuff, it&#8217;s because I eat much smaller servings, which brings me to&#8230;</p>
<p>Fourth, and this is a big one, in my opinion.  You can make a HUGE change towards more healthful (and less expensive) eating by doing the following.  Prepare a simple, raw-vegetable salad and eat a bunch of it before every meal so that there&#8217;s less room in your gut for crap.  Don&#8217;t put a bunch of dressing or cheese or croutons on it &#8211; just fill your gut half-full of leafy greens, tomatos, carrots, cucumbers, etc.  Prep time is significant, but not daily if you make a big enough salad, and all you need is a sink, an knife, and a cutting board.  Then balance your meal with the same stuff you always eat, but cut back to half, or a third.</p>
<p>BSK-I am living proof that one can eat Spaghetti-O&#8217;s without dirtying anything other than a spoon.  Back when I was eating them, I found them to be fine at room temperature &#8211; I started eating them that way when I was a pre-teen and continued until grad school.  Total prep time &#8211; as long as it takes to run a can opener.  Total clean up time &#8211; as long as it takes to throw the can away and put the spoon into the dishwasher.</p>
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		<title>By: 2nd of 3</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/26/morning-links-511/comment-page-1/#comment-1375614</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd of 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update on the Georgia mother convicter in child&#039;s jaywalking death: http://news.yahoo.com/ga-mom-gets-probation-sons-jaywalking-death-152407635.html

1 year probation and 40 hours community service.  The judge &quot;also made the unusual move of offering her a chance to clear her name at a new trial&quot;.  No further details Probably the best possible outcome under the circumstances (not that she should have been charged, much less convicted, in the first place).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on the Georgia mother convicter in child&#8217;s jaywalking death: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/ga-mom-gets-probation-sons-jaywalking-death-152407635.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/ga-mom-gets-probation-sons-jaywalking-death-152407635.html</a></p>
<p>1 year probation and 40 hours community service.  The judge &#8220;also made the unusual move of offering her a chance to clear her name at a new trial&#8221;.  No further details Probably the best possible outcome under the circumstances (not that she should have been charged, much less convicted, in the first place).</p>
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