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Friday, July 22nd, 2011

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  1. #1 |  Robert | 

    @ #44 Marty ” wanna figure out an easy latch system for my plates and just take them inside with me.”

    And you’ll come back out to find that your car has been booted / towed and ticketed for “Failure to display plate”.

  2. #2 |  hamburglar007 | 

    I’m a huge opponent of the military industrial complex, but NASA is one government agency where there has been a huge return on the investment, in ways that don’t seem obvious either.

  3. #3 |  Marty | 

    49- is that a crime if you’re in a parking lot? the vehicle wouldn’t be on a public roadway…

  4. #4 |  BC | 

    That Newark incident is from 2008.

  5. #5 |  TomG | 

    I really don’t understand the notion that some of us are “treating NASA like a religion”. I don’t think the people agreeing with me are all saying “keep it forever!”, we are saying that on the loooong list of government funded agencies, it is one of the least harmful and has some beneficial side effects. Now, if you want to focus on why we are wrong about NASA – instead of focusing on the agencies we agree should be shuttered ASAP (such as the DEA, HUD, FTC, ATF, etc.), and on the massive amount of money spent on our current military operations overseas – well I guess we have different priorities.

  6. #6 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #51 | Marty | July 22nd, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    49- is that a crime if you’re in a parking lot? the vehicle wouldn’t be on a public roadway…

    They require that my dog be on a leash and have a license tag in my own yard. I know this because the animal control cop actually stopped and told me that when he saw my dogs running around in the front yard. I glared at the guy so hard I thought he was going to burst into flames. I think he left because he thought I might shoot him if he didn’t.

  7. #7 |  Marty | 

    ‘I know this because the animal control cop actually stopped and told me that when he saw my dogs running around in the front yard.’

    a leash in your own yard?! these are the little indignities that make me wanna kick someone in the balls. he might be making that shit up, because these law enforcement bureaucrats have been known to do that…

  8. #8 |  JS | 

    I like the idea that the government will havea harder time spying on people without their satellites. Fuck NASA.

  9. #9 |  Highway | 

    Marty, I’m sure your vehicle will get towed out of a private parking lot (that you don’t own) if it is not obviously registered.

  10. #10 |  DPirate | 

    “police made a search of the home and were unable to turn up anything of value”


    Regarding Leiby, the writer neglected to add the word ‘white’:

    “It seems every time a child is murdered a law pops up in his or her place”

  11. #11 |  shane | 

    Even though that Newark cop video was uploaded to YouTube on July 18, 2011, that video is maybe over a year old.

  12. #12 |  Lefty | 

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a crime. I got a ticket for no tags recently. My temp registration was on the windshield if they’d bothered to look.

  13. #13 |  DPirate | 

    On reading further into the Leiby story, I now realize that the writer is just plain bad:

    “And would people who had small infractions in their pasts—an unpaid parking ticket, say—be worried about a store participating in this program and not apply for a job out of fear of a background check? The unemployment rate is high enough as it is.”

    The fail in this paragraph is immense.

  14. #14 |  C. S. P. Schofield | 

    When I was younger, I loved NASA, Space, and the whole “Final Frontier” mindset. On the other hand, I seriously expected that we’d have footprints on Mars by now. Nasa hasn’t done that. What I want to know, though, is whether defunding Nasa means opening things up for private enterprise. The only data I have on the subject is a book (The Kings of the High Frontier), and while it was a thrilling tale, I have no idea if its assertion that there are a lot of regulations stifling private space exploration has any basis in reality. If it does, cutting NASA off at the knees is only half the job. The other half would be getting the frack out of the way. There’s a lot of energy and a lot of raw material out in space. That should tempt the adventurous. If it doesn’t, we probably deserve to be restricted to this One Earth …. although what we’ve done to deserve the twits that use that phrase is beyond me.

  15. #15 |  Lefty | 


    You do realize that the shuttle isn’t the only way to get satellites into orbit.

    From what I can gather NASA’s budget is going up. The only thing is what that money will be spent on. Shuttle missions are very expensive and draw money away from other projects.

  16. #16 |  croaker | 

    @30 With cops shooting dogs so common, it was only a matter of time before a pig make this threat. Pretty much along the lines of threatening a person under investigation with prison rape.


  17. #17 |  JS | 

    #61, yea but with the government hopefully going broke they won’t be able to afford sending more of their satellites up there. I’m all for private industry sending them up. Yea I had read that the shuttle had degenerated into just an expensive exercise in public relations, getting everybody all charged up about our brave spacemen and stuff.

  18. #18 |  Marty | 

    #56 | Highway-

    I’m betting you’re right, but an argument could be made that you’re helping law enforcement, because vehicles without tags are easy to spot and probably less attractive to thieves…

  19. #19 |  Z | 

    Small government= cutting programs we don’t like while imposing ones we do.

  20. #20 |  CK | 

    I have always despised NASA for stealing space from the entrpreneurial types and giving the military types a monopoly. I am happy to see the end of NASA. Now if only a real Harriman comes along to fulfill the ideals of :
    Until them keep cheering for Marvin the Martian.

  21. #21 |  André Kenji | 

    “Personally, I think our kids and grand kids are going to rise up and start killing off baby boomers until they have a majority at the polls.”

    I doubt. I never understood why the Americans of my age(30) were so silent during the Health Care reform debates. One side were arguing against seniors paying more for their health and openly arguing that young people should be subsidizing the healthcare of older people by being forced to buy health insurance. The other side was defending the status quo, where the young people gets no health care in the world while the seniors get the most subsidized and generous health care in the world.

    I hardly saw anyone under 30 complaining, everyone was silent.

  22. #22 |  Leon Wolfeson | 

    Fucking NASA.

    I say that as someone genuinely interested in space. No, it’s not the US military space program, that’s quite separate and a lot more competent. I’m with Pournelle – NASA went to the moon, then it discovered bureaucracy.

    They only JUST got grounded the 70’s design, dangerous semi-reusable manned spacecraft they had, which was built as an expensive white elephant, with a tiny tin can in orbit to go to, when they deliberately de-orbited the big central fuel tanks to the end.

    Shipping PEOPLE and CARGO into orbit are two very, very different things. If they’d continued to work on descendants of the Saturn heavy-life program, and developed a reusable space plane for Humans, we’d be decades further along!


  23. #23 |  Leon Wolfeson | 

    @70 – Not really. NASA hasn’t been the problem for entrepreneurs per-se, it’s been a drastic lack of vision in the funders of these projects. Same goes for a bunch of other things in travel like Airships and Cargo submarines, for that matter.

    There are also some really, really obnoxious patent issues in America which have seriously delayed private spaceflight.

  24. #24 |  André Kenji | 

    What delayed private spaceflight is that sending people and things to space is very expensive and unless you are a bored billionaire there is no way that you are willing to pay what´s necessary to go there. Space in real life is very different from the space of movies, it´s a very brutal place,

    Besides that, that´s the problem with anything related to space exploration and research: everyone confuses science fiction movies and books with reality.

  25. #25 |  BoogaFrito | 

    It’s a shame they spent all that work painting clothes on the flight attendants, then shot them in close-up…

  26. #26 |  Jason E Bintz | 

    In response to the article and video about the protest in Newark:

    I fear that we are getting to the point at which the american public will no longer ponder the fact that the police are supposed to protect the people, but the question of who protects the people from the police?

    It is a sad state of affairs that the current laws on the books that are supposed to protect our basic rights are being distorted under the guise of protecting us from terrorism. So maybe in a way, the terrorists have won!

    I fear my last statement might inflame someone, but if you are angry about it, think long and hard about how possibly right the statement might be before you begin a flame war.

  27. #27 |  Leon Wolfeson | 

    @74 – I’ve seen fully costed plan after fully costed plan in the transport sector, including spaceflight, simply be ignored by financiers, even when the risk is considerably lower than other things they’re doing.

    Want to call Pournelle a space cadet? (Please do, I need a good laugh)

  28. #28 |  Boyd Durkin | 


    I like the idea that the government will havea harder time spying on people without their satellites. Fuck NASA.

    Different budgets. The spying on people and securing the defense of the state is hidden in many Defense and Homeland Security budgets…so it is pretty much unlimited.