Another Thing To Blame on Libertarians.

Friday, July 15th, 2011

The Casey Anthony verdict!

No, really.

Maybe the jurors in Orlando were able to acquit Anthony of child abuse, the most defensible and best-documented charge that the prosecution had, because they didn’t see anything strange in a mother who partied like a cheap trick during the month that her baby was “missing.” Maybe they were so steeped in the culture of individuality and “tolerance” that they found it hard to be judgmental toward a randy mom who reminded them of their own children, or even their younger selves . . .

Or maybe they’d just forgotten what neglect and abuse look like because, after all, criticizing a woman for expressing her sexuality is so . . . Victorian.

But, more than an inability to understand complex legal theories, I think the reason the jury was unable to convict Anthony was that it just didn’t buy the prosecution premise that a woman who enters a hot-body contest while her child is lost has both the motive and propensity to kill her. In a society where people have the fundamental right to enjoy themselves – others be damned – an immature and self-obsessed mother is no more likely to murder an innocent baby than your run-of-the-mill reality-show hausfrau. And anyone who criticizes her for those acts of carefree self-expression is a judgmental prude.

That’s where individualism of the libertarian model has taken us. The idea that no one has the right to tell us how to live our lives (Legalize drugs! Ban motorcycle helmets! Don’t ban violent videos! Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!) has led us to a place where caring about No. 1 has become a secular religion, and turned all of those who preach restraint into heretics.

So it’s not surprising at all that Casey Anthony got off, even in the face of strong evidence and the absolute implausibility of alternatives.

The only thing surprising in all of this is that she was put on trial in the first place. Because, after all, it’s not a crime these days if girls just wanna have fun.

This is clearly one of the stupidest things about this case yet to be written. And there’s been a hell of a lot of competition.

But I actually agree with the author’s conclusion. As a libertarian, I believe every criminal defendant should be afforded the full slate of constitutional protections; that suspects should be considered innocent until proven guilty; that the government must always prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt; and that guilt should be determined by an independent jury weighing the evidence, not by public opinion polls or lynch mobs. If adhering to those standards is what resulted in the “not guilty” verdict, I’m fine with taking the “blame” for that.

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57 Responses to “Another Thing To Blame on Libertarians.”

  1. #1 |  OBTC | 

    “If adhering to those standards is what resulted in the “not guilty” verdict, I’m fine with taking the “blame” for that.”

    Amen.

  2. #2 |  anoNY | 

    “Ban motorcycle helmets! ”

    That’s my favorite part! Libertarians the world over of course support large government when it comes to banning safety devices!

  3. #3 |  Laura Victoria | 

    Well I’ll at least give her credit for recognizing that motive was indeed relevant to the case, the prosecution introduced it because it was needed to tie the circumstantial evidence together, and the jury rejected it as being lame. She has more brains than Bill O’Reilly, but so does my German Shorthair, Steffi.

    But she gets this selfishness thing all wrong. It is in fact the statists who are selfish as they have never been prosecuted by the government for a crime, believe it will never happen to them and theirs, and hence don’t give a flying freak about the principle of better 100 guilty go free than one innocent person be convicted. They disguise their selfish blood lust as the desire for “justice for Caylee.” Libertarians, on the other hand, show empathy in caring about the civil liberties of everyone.

  4. #4 |  Mister DNA | 

    :::dons monocle:::

    It’s a great time to be a libertarian. Just a few years ago, we were a fringe party with no representation at the national level and very little at the state level.

    Now, thanks to largess of the Koch brothers we wield incredible power. We’ve ended the war on drugs, ended military aggression in the Middle East and cut the military budget by 75%, restored our civil liberties to pre-9/11 levels and sabotaged the Casey Anthony verdict. Victory is ours!

  5. #5 |  freebob | 

    These people should release a manual of how to act once tragedy strikes. Anthony’s partying is what seems to get Nancy Grace and her team of harpies all titillated. I’ve seen enough people kill themselves or self-destruct from partying to know that for some people “partying” is a sign of deep mental anguish. I’m not saying everyone who parties is on a self-hating downward spiral, or that that was the case with Anthony. But to the mob the fact that Anthony partied is all the evidence they need to claim she’s a monster and should be put to death. So they should put out a manual ‘How to Act When a Loved One Dies’ and then we’ll all know what to do in those situations and we’ll also know whoever strays from the playbook is guilty of something — which we can sort out after the hanging.

  6. #6 |  MassHole | 

    She’s a skank, so she must be guilty. Off with her head!

    If she had been a Republican, this would have never happened.

  7. #7 |  a leap at the wheel | 

    Excellent post Mister DNA. Your Koch Brother Pay Bonus for Outstanding Internet Posting That You Wouldn’t Have Made Without Getting Pay And Direction will be included in your next paycheck.

    Would you like that in the form of USD, bit coin, heroin, or not-motorcycle-helmet?

  8. #8 |  Chris in AL | 

    “Maybe the jurors in Orlando were able to acquit Anthony of child abuse, the most defensible and best-documented charge that the prosecution had, because they didn’t see anything strange in a mother who partied like a cheap trick during the month that her baby was “missing.””

    No matter what actions a person engaged in, no matter how inappropriate they may seem, how can one possibly commit the act of child abuse during the time the child was NOT there?

    The stupid here is massive. Not only is this idiot embarrassing herself, but the news outlet that published her stupidity. But nobody seems to care how other people see them any more. Just that they be seen a lot.

  9. #9 |  Mike | 

    “Ban motorcycle helmets”? Excuse me while I pass out laughing. (thud)

    Ok, back. That there lost any credibility the author may have had. No one, not even the most rabid my-head-my-choice fanatic, wants to ban helmets. Rather, they want to leave it to each rider’s choice.

    I ride, and wear full gear (including full-face helmet). It’s my choice because it makes me safer. (As an aside, all riders, PLEASE wear full gear!) If someone wants to ride helmetless, well, it’s their choice to be stupid.

    What’s wrong is government force (laws) requireing only one choice.

    Ms. Flower’s argument boils down to: Choice is a wonderful thing, as long as others make choices I approve of. Otherwise, it’s horrible.

    Sorry Ms. Flowers. Since YOU disagree with ME, then YOUR choices are horrible, and YOU must change. How’s that now, when reversed?

  10. #10 |  B | 

    “Would you like that in the form of USD, bit coin, heroin, or not-motorcycle-helmet?”

    Bitcoin isnt very liquid yet. Take the heroin.

  11. #11 |  Jeff | 

    Sheesh. Take a little nap, and when I wake up, libertarians have taken over the country.

    I think I’ll take another nap.

  12. #12 |  Mister DNA | 

    Would you like that in the form of USD, bit coin, heroin, or not-motorcycle-helmet?

    I’ll take my Pay Bonus for Outstanding Internet Posting That You Wouldn’t Have Made Without Getting Pay And Direction in gold, thank you.

    I’ll take my Pay Bonus For Successfully Using The Strike Tag Without The Benefit of a Preview Button in heroin, please.

  13. #13 |  jcalton | 

    Awesome! Good to know in Florida the jury pool has become tainted by the vast millions of libertarians living there. Screw the Free State Project, I’m moving to Florida.

  14. #14 |  Tolly | 

    Agreed – another woefully retarded op-ed on a bungled persecution. It’s bizarre how it seems as though no blame is being handed out to the prosecutors and law enforcement on this case.

    This isnt some criminal mastermind, shes a trashy single mom, who pretty obviously murdered her child. Even disregarding the CSI-effect on juries, shouldnt there have been a tad more effort or proof dug up by the state? Apparently there was a report that months before the body was recovered, the worker who first reported the body was scolded by an officer who drove out and performed a minimal search. Finding nothing fast, he left the body out there to decompose further and instead yelled at the worker for wasting his time. That guy should be booted from the force. I bet the Sherriff’s Office has the manpower to set up BS DUI checkpoints but cant spare more than one inept deputy to find a murder victim?

    In other inept, expensive prosecution, the case against Roger Clemens just disintegrated on day ONE. Apparently the lead prosecutor didnt understand the term ‘inadmissible’.

  15. #15 |  DarkEFang | 

    Florida is the land of the old and the home of the crazy. And none of them are libertarians.

    It’s articles like this one that make illiteracy seem like a good idea.

  16. #16 |  demize! | 

    I blame The Spanish Inquisition..DUNDUNDUN.

  17. #17 |  PBunyan | 

    The woman who wrote that is, apparently, a lawyer. [facepalm]

  18. #18 |  DarkEFang | 

    “In other inept, expensive prosecution, the case against Roger Clemens just disintegrated on day ONE. Apparently the lead prosecutor didnt understand the term ‘inadmissible’.”

    It’s actually even worse than it appears. Clemens wanted this case to go to a jury. He feels like he needs a “not guilty” verdict to clear his name with the baseball writers and have a chance at the Hall of Fame. That’s why his attorneys didn’t object either time the prosecution introduced evidence the judge had previously ruled inadmissible. She had to step in of her own volition and declare a mistrial. If they decide not to re-try Clemens, which appears likely, he’s screwed.

  19. #19 |  Tolly | 

    Thanks for filling in the blanks – i just read an update on the case and didnt have the full details.

    Regardless – how many millions of dollars were spent chasing after a bunch of juicers? Do the fans really give a shit? Steroids are drawing bigger crowds and giving them more entertaining games. Same with the Tour de France. Those guys are doing inhuman shit and if the incentives, balanced risks and money are acceptable, they’re going to do it.

    Instead we get bloviating assholes in our government who feel like they need to blow millions to grandstand for benefit of “the children”. Christ, the fact that they cant cut spending in the budget is a joke when they always seem to have millions in taxpayer funds to spend on babysitting.

  20. #20 |  andyinsdca | 

    Wasn’t the partying one of the things the judge said that the jury couldn’t learn about because it wasn’t relevant? It’s morons like this who go on about what they saw on CNN or whatever but have no real idea about what the jury DID get to see that make it hard to discuss the case rationally.

  21. #21 |  mme6546 | 

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/15/woman-looks-like-casey-anthony_n_899654.html

    I knew this was coming….

  22. #22 |  Maggie McNeill | 

    #3: Well-said, Laura! I have never been able to wrap my head around the soi-disant “liberal” notion that wanting a free ride isn’t selfish, but supporting equal rights for everyone, down to the smallest minority, somehow is.

  23. #23 |  Dave Krueger | 

    I find it irritating in the extreme that libertarians, who have never managed to even break into the double digits in a presidential election, are to blame for the entire country going to hell in a hand basket.

    If we’re wrecking the country, we should be doing better at the polls, especially considering how voters seem to have such an incredible knack for electing those who really are sending the country to hell in a hand basket.

  24. #24 |  Darwin | 

    “caring about No. 1 has become a secular religion”

    He’s right about that.

  25. #25 |  Tom Sullivan | 

    “Blame” is not the right word…”Credit” is!

  26. #26 |  Andrew S. | 

    I’m assuming it would be worthless to tell this person that Casey wasn’t charged with “child abuse”. She was charged with “aggravated child abuse”, which has a specific meaning that didn’t come close to being proven.

    Between this and the people who think we should do away with double jeopardy and retry her, I’m with Professor Farnsworth. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

  27. #27 |  Zeb | 

    Or just maybe the jury thought Anthony was a terrible person, but still could not convict because the prosecution didn’t prove their case beyond any reasonable doubt. Wow.

  28. #28 |  Big A | 

    #21- from the comments of the look alike article:
    “Casey Anthony halloween masks. What do ya think?”

    Yep. Move over Sarah Palin, there’s a new monster in town.

  29. #29 |  Jay | 

    Just because you do things others don’t like, and/or you act like a dumbass, doesn’t mean you’ve done things that are illegal.

    Something about stones and glass houses…

  30. #30 |  Big A | 

    #22 Maggie. It’s cuz that free ride isn’t for yourself. Oh no, it’s for uh, other people who need it and stuff. Also if everyone has equal rights, how can you tell apart the lowly (other people who need a free ride and stuff) from the saviors (those who brave all odds to procure a free ride for the lowly)?

  31. #31 |  DoubleU | 

    I am confused, I wanted to learn more about being a libertarian because I thought you guys hated roads.

  32. #32 |  Dave Krueger | 

    #31 DoubleU

    I am confused, I wanted to learn more about being a libertarian because I thought you guys hated roads.

    Don’t even get me started on roads…

  33. #33 |  Chris Rhodes | 

    There are only two things you need to know about libertarians:

    1. They are a small, niche group of crazies with no chance of ever holding any real power or accomplishing anything.
    2. They are personally and directly responsible for every problem our country has.

    To quote Lewis Black: “It’s shame cars don’t run on cognitive dissonance.”

  34. #34 |  Mister DNA | 

    I am confused, I wanted to learn more about being a libertarian because I thought you guys hated roads.

    There’s only one thing libertarians hate worse than roads: High-Speed Rail.

    …or is it dealing with the TSA at airports?

    … or is it corn subsidies?

  35. #35 |  Highway | 

    Hey! Libertarians LOVE roads! They just hate the state owning them!

  36. #36 |  Andrew S. | 

    Roads?

    Where we’re going we don’t need roads.

  37. #37 |  2nd of 3 | 

    “hence don’t give a flying freak about the principle of better 100 guilty go free than one innocent person be convicted. ”

    I know several people who adamantly believe the opposite to be true. I tend to believe that rhetoric aside, this is actually the majority view in the country.

  38. #38 |  SJE | 

    At least the libertarian position on roads is more consistent than either of the major parties on individual liberties or taxes.

  39. #39 |  Aresen | 

    Damn. Andrew S. @ 3:29 beat me to it.

    Knew I shouldn’t have taken a long Friday lunch.

  40. #40 |  Aresen | 

    Mister DNA | July 15th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    I am confused, I wanted to learn more about being a libertarian because I thought you guys hated roads.

    There’s only one thing libertarians hate worse than roads: High-Speed Rail.

    …or is it dealing with the TSA at airports?

    … or is it corn subsidies?

    The whole world is festering with unhappy souls.
    The French hate the Germans. The Germans hate the Poles
    Italians hate Yugoslavs. South Africans hate the Dutch.
    And libertarians don’t like anybody very much.”

    [Apologies to the Kingston Trio.]

  41. #41 |  Jay | 

    When I read the headline I assumed it would be a link to Balloon-juice

    /Jay

  42. #42 |  Sean L. | 

    This is merely another case of an idiot who started reading the “Definition of a Libertarian” and stopped at the first comma because their head exploded:

    “Libertarians believe that individuals should have complete freedom of action, provided their actions do not infringe on the freedom of others.”

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/339321/libertarianism

  43. #43 |  Mattocracy | 

    “I think the reason the jury was unable to convict Anthony was that it just didn’t buy the prosecution premise that a woman who enters a hot-body contest while her child is lost has both the motive and propensity to kill her.”

    Way to go mind reader. I mean, that just has to be the answer why 12 people don’t think the way you do.

  44. #44 |  karl | 

    Welcome to the club. Blunderbusses like that used to blame us liberals and “the permissive 60s” for *bad* jury verdicts and often for the crimes themselves (actually, they still blame us most of the time). Nice to see you guys reach reach cultural-decadence-villain status; keep up the good work.

  45. #45 |  Fluffy | 

    The defense claimed that Caylee had accidentally died and that the death had been covered up.

    Since that theory of the crime fits in “partying” evidence just as well as the murder theory does, the partying pictures are a wash. Acting normal is exactly what Casey would have been doing had she been involved in a coverup of an accidental death.

    The prosecution lost this case because they admitted they couldn’t determine the cause of death and because they got out-expert-witnessed on the forensics.

    All of these outraged people asking “How can she not get convicted with all those photos of her partying?” don’t seem to want to try to understand that in the absence of a definitive cause of death, there’s really no way to favor the prosecution theory over the defense theory based just on those photos. That’s what reasonable doubt is all about.

  46. #46 |  StrongStyle81 | 

    Personally I blame the Smurfs for the Casey Anthony verdict. Don’t ask me how just yet, I’ll come up with something and it will probably make more sense than that article.

  47. #47 |  MPH | 

    My landlady at my temporary lodging in CT watched the closing arguments, and apparently some of the media coverage of the trial. She’s convinced of Anthony’s guilt. So I asked her if she’d read the trial transcript, so that she had all the information available to her that the jury had to make their decision, before she decided that Anthony was guilty. My landlady didn’t understand the question. I haven’t looked into the trial myself, so I haven’t formed an opinion.

    Further, I don’t get the media circus over this. This case will have no long term effects over our judicial system. It isn’t a new precedent, or a reversal of one. It’s a jury that found someone not guilty. Even if they were mistaken, this case will not have the long term repercussions that, say, Kelo, or Raich (sp?), etc. will have.

  48. #48 |  BSK | 

    “Because, after all, it’s not a crime these days if girls just wanna have fun.”

    Hey, she got ONE thing right!

  49. #49 |  IllyAlley | 

    “If adhering to those standards is what resulted in the “not guilty” verdict, I’m fine with taking the “blame” for that.”

    Except that, as the juror interviews have made extremely clear, it was not an adherence to those standards that resulted in the “not guilty” verdict.

  50. #50 |  CyniCAl | 

    First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you.

    That’s where we are now.

    Then you win.

    I am glad the end game is afoot.

  51. #51 |  Jim | 

    Strongstyle81- Its because they are 3 apples high and they are blue and from EUROPE where I believe the Cuban Revolution took place lead by Chairman Mao. I think you can connect the dots from here.

  52. #52 |  Carpenter | 

    Well I blame everything on the Libertarians because they are always at fault!

    For instance: the horrible way that Libertarians (and libertarian leaning republicans) treated George Herbert Walker Bush and Ronald Reagan (both good Christian men) led to the country being ‘Clintonized” for 8 years. Basically “they” got what “they” deserved and the country suffered along with the Libertarians. The Libertarians DESERVED Clinton!!

    and then there is the way that the Tea People and the Libertarians treated George W. Bush (also a good Christian man). They are deserving of punishment and so God gave them Obama! The Tea People deserve to be Obamafied. They really do.

    They (the Libertarian Tea People) claim to be Christians but they don’t act like or sound like Christians. Many seem to worship the Constitution or Ayn Rand or the Founders. And they are especially fond of LYING through thier teeth about other Christians (namely the whole Bush family).

    So I am saying that as bad as Obama is “they” deserve exactly what is happening. Its their fault. The Libertarians deserve Obama!!

  53. #53 |  JOR | 

    What gets me is that people who rail against equal protection and presumption of innocence never consider the real libertarian solution when they don’t like the results of a jury trial: vigilante retribution. If someone gets away with murder and you don’t like it, hunt them down and kill them yourself. True, that’s against the law, but so what? If the system is so stacked in favor of defendants, then you’ll get away with it too. (Of course if such a person actually were acquited, you’d have the parchment-worshipping minarchists crying bloody murder, so it’s a win either way).

  54. #54 |  Kevin Carson | 

    Maybe an irresponsible, self-centered party girl is more likely than the average person to kill her child. But last I heard, the prosecutorial burden of proof wasn’t simply to show that the accused was more likely than the average person to have committed the crime. It wasn’t to show that their behavior was weird or inappropriate under the circumstances, or that there was something “fishy” about that behavior when coupled with circumstantial evidence. It was actually to PROVE that the person FUCKING DID IT.

  55. #55 |  Medicine Man | 

    I don’t know where Radley gets off advocating for due process.

  56. #56 |  John Spragge | 

    OK… since obviously nobody will do it, I will take a stand for restraint and personal responsibility. So… all you media narcissists competing for attention by putting on a “top this” outraged act on the subject of Casey and Caylee Anthony, show some restraint. If you can’t refrain from making the death of a little girl into a media circus in which you all compete for the job of ringmaster, how about a little mercy on the legal system? How about a scintilla of respect for the jury, who gave up weeks of their lives in a badly remunerated and very unpleasant job. How about some acknowledgment the jurors actually showed up and did their civic duty? How about recognizing that they owed that duty to the people of the State of Florida to hold the government to its burden of proof, and never signed on to provide a billion voyeurs with cheap emotional catharsis? And while we discuss the subjects of restraint and maturity, if this wretched woman’s problems have so so fired up, how about turning your response to provide something good for a kid you can save? How about actually doing something positive? Volunteer at a youth centre or preschool; the evillibertarians haven’t outlawed that yet. Or how about donating to a charity that provides child care to children (and parents) who need it? Or if you can’t find such a charity, start one? The evillibertarians haven’t passed any laws against that, either.

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