Comments on: Dumb Partisan Outrage of the Day http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:59:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: Petty controversy: Paul Ryan’s ‘outrageous’ $350 bottles of wine (The Week) | NewsPeruse.com Latest and Breaking News http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1289279 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:13:33 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1289279 […] hard to see how anyone could mistakenly order two $350 bottles of wine.” Still, counters The Agitator, there’s no rule that politicians “aren’t allowed to spend their own money on […]

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By: orange http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1288107 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:26:19 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1288107 I agree that this is a silly story. However, your post is kind of silly, too.

Why did you feel the need to refer to Feinberg as being “drunk” three separate times in this post when that is an assumption not in evidence? Ryan described her as “possibly drunk” and she described herself as “not drunk”. So why are you jumping to conclusions?

Oh, because you’re taking sides. And, sure, you’re allowed to take sides. But you’re not allowed to invent your own reality. Your post didn’t benefit from the multiple accusations of her inebriation, so you really didn’t need to include that dubious assertion.

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By: Chris http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1286969 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:17:32 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1286969 Susan Feinberg gave an 8 minute interview about her “outing” of Paul Ryan. She is clearly extremely pleased with herself.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/bigpicture/thom-hartmann-talks-susan-feinberg-who-caught-paul-ryan-act

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By: JOR http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1278179 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:59:21 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1278179 Anyone who says the problem with people they disagree with is that “they don’t think, they feel” probably isn’t worth paying attention to (except to note their willful stupidity), and that includes Sowell. Hypocrisy and compartmentalization of moral standards are an incredibly common human habit; we’ve all done it before, sometimes while “emotional” and sometimes in cold blood, and it takes no special talent for empathy to understand how or why someone might make such an intellectual error without being addled or insane or “emotional”.

But then, imagining that proponents of some belief one thinks to be wrong must be addled or insane or “emotional” is another common human habit.

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By: John Q. Galt http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1276702 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:19:17 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1276702 So, when can we expect some stalker pics of miss biz professor?

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By: claude http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1274537 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:31:17 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1274537 “Yeah, pretty much. If someone did this to someone with a (D) behind their name, or FSM forbid, Obama, Claude would be frothing mad calling for criminal or libel charges.”

U obviously dont know me very well at all. At least put some effort into it. Sheesh. Maybe u can support Paul Ryan by shopping at his next job… Paul Ryans Used Cars. ;-)

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By: claude http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1274525 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:28:55 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1274525 “Well claude’s argument has certainly clarified the issue for me: if claude doesn’t like somebody, one must never defend said individual from any attacks, no matter how trivial. Please remove this blog entry post-haste, Radley!”

We could probably apply that to u as well, now couldnt we? Did anyone tell Radley not to post or defend him? No, they didnt. People should ride that little ineffectual nothing all day every day. Im sorry that opinion is such a problem for u. Actually, not really.

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By: MPH http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1274306 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:44:11 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1274306 The following seems to apply to Feinberg (paraphrased from a quote by Thomas Sowell): “The problem isn’t that Feinberg can’t read. The problem isn’t even that Feinberg can’t think. The problem is that Feinberg doesn’t know what thinking is; she confuses it with feeling.” And as others have already noted, the idea that what Ryan was doing was reprehensible while what she was doing wasn’t, even though she was doing the same thing, is a hypocrisy typical of a fanatic.

And for those of you who are wondering about what makes a bottle of wine worth $350, I have the following observation from my personal experience. My most expensive personal purchase of a bottle of wine is $220, although my usual purchase runs under $10 per bottle. What makes a $220 bottle of wine cost 10 times a $22 bottle of wine? It is NOT 10 times better. It comes from a winery with a consistently good product from year to year. They use the most expensive form of harvesting, where each individual grape is picked at the peak of ripeness. But most importantly, what makes it that expensive is that it is RARE, and is currently in fashion (or “trendy”). There are plenty of small, family run wineries that are both consistent, and use the best quality practices, but that aren’t either fashionable enough, or rare enough to command such prices (and the appearance of rarity is something that a winery can artificially increase). Look at MI wines for lots of examples of this. Many excellent wineries (117 last I knew), a lot of really good wine, still mostly unknown, and so still reasonably priced. So don’t lament that you can’t afford a $350 bottle of Pinot Noir. Go out and buy a $35 bottle (from a store, rather than a restaurant) and you’ll be 99% there. Trust me, you won’t miss, or probably even notice, the missing 1%.

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By: NY Cynic http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1274281 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:39:05 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1274281 It’s a such a non story, in addition the left fear of Ryan is funny at best. Rockwell and Co have shown that Ryan is another empty conservative suit, using Libertarian rhetoric.

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By: Sinchy http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1273555 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 12:59:39 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1273555 The busybody should have quietly snapped a picture of the people at Ryan’s table and tried to find out if they were lobbyists, then when it came out that Ryan didn’t pay for the wine, which he probably wouldn’t have done (it’s human nature) she could have exacted some real damage to her political enemy.
Instead she gave Ryan a lesson on the optics of the class divide. Now whenever Ryan is out for dinner he might order a Budweiser.
He is allowed to enjoy whatever he wants, but the fact that he and his friends, and fellow politicians are enjoying these luxuries while asking working people to sacrifice should be illuminating to those who think he can be working for all of us, rich or poor. The fact is most of the ruling class has no clue what working people’s lives are like. It’s all theory for Ryan and no reality. That’s the story.
I would love to try a $350 Pinot.

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By: Phelps http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1270903 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:41:55 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1270903 In all fairness, this would be beneath Breitbart. Unless Ryan was sticking his dick in the wine, even Breitbart would have passed.

They really fear Ryan to try this hard to smear him.

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By: c andrew http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1270732 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:56:20 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1270732 Not to say that the orgy wasn’t bipartisan with Bush and McCain pushing the original TARP

Should read…

Not to say that the orgy wasn’t bipartisan with Bush and McCain AND OBAMA pushing the original TARP

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By: c andrew http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1270723 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:54:34 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1270723 “This “controversy” is about as dumb as when Republicans complain about the Obamas going on vacation while America is in a recession!”

Hmmm.

Didn’t Obama’s mouthpiece complain about the Republicans leaving DC to go back to their constituencies as scheduled because they weren’t working on raising the debt ceiling?

I’m a bit amused by Obama’s latecoming insistence on fiscal rectitude given his and the democrats’ spending orgy in the last 2 years. Not to say that the orgy wasn’t bipartisan with Bush and McCain pushing the original TARP. I just find it tiresome that Obama will attack them for lacking fiscal rectitude at the same time he attacks them for attempting to cut entitlements. Talk about having cake and eating it too.

(This is not to say that the current Republicans are actually being fiscally responsible. C’mon. 2 Trillion in “cuts” of “projected spending” over ten years? That means at least 4 years before we offset the first stimulus. Not to mention that CATO has shown that projected spending will still rise by 1.8 Trillion.)

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By: Ted S. http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1270617 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:23:24 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1270617 Money might be vulgar but spending [one’s own] should be fun.

(Paraphrased from http://www.searcys.co.uk/gherkin-club/membership-benefits/ )

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By: Julian http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/09/dumb-partisan-outrage-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-1270412 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:16:07 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=21297#comment-1270412 I’m a pretty dedicated liberal, and I don’t know why the hell anyone thinks Mr. Ryan’s drinking preferences matter one single goddamn. His ideas are stupid, they’d cause plenty of harm and do little good, and he’s lied through every orifice of his body in promoting them, but none of that has anything to do with him liking pricey wine. This implication that there’s something unseemly or hypocritical about drinking expensive booze when you’re the type who wants to dismantle SS and Medicare is just silly. Ryan’s exactly the sort of person you’d expect to find doing such a thing; I’m just surprised he wasn’t smoking a cigar at the same time.

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