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Wednesday, July 6th, 2011

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  1. #1 |  marco73 | 

    Please, no more Anthony coverage. Tuesday afternoon, I was stuck in a waiting room, with the TV turned all the way up, for about 2 hours after the verdict came down. My head still hurts.

  2. #2 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    # Indiana teen charged with a felony for school sex doll prank.

    Damn, hope I don’t get retroactively charged for that Whoopie cushion incident in the 6th grade.
    Looking up the statute of limitations on that….

  3. #3 |  BSK | 

    ““It certainly wasn’t intentional,” Ebert said. “But the fact is that she was on notice. This is an innocent child, and she wasn’t up to speed on taking care of him. It gets to the point where it becomes neglect.””

    So charge her with neglect. How hard is that? If this was unintentional, as the felony murder statute requires, I would think that the pain and suffering caused by her own guilt is punishment enough. I don’t disagree with a neglect or similar charge, but murder is just piling on for piling on’s sake. Obviously, this woman isn’t fit to be a mother, but putting her in jail for the rest of her life isn’t the answer.

  4. #4 |  V | 

    How wonderfully circular. If police officers come in and create a disturbance, they can arrest people to quell the same disturbance.

  5. #5 |  BSK | 

    Re: Sex Doll Case

    In protest, every kid should show up to school in hoods and gloves, suspiciously carrying their backpacks, deposit them in lockers, and walk away empty handed. What if he was delivering a present to a teacher?

    Can’t we say “No harm, no foul”, give the kid a slap on the wrist through the school disciplinary track, and move on?

    “Hey, kid, we overreacted to your prank, against common sense and better judgment. So, naturally, you are responsible.” Good life lesson.

  6. #6 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    Yes, introduce Caylee’s Law, by all means:
    t will be herewith be a felony for the State/media machine to pollute the TV and internet and the Earth itself with pandering, bullshit, trumped-up cases for 3 precious years. Punishable by death

  7. #7 |  EH | 

    Nancy Grace this morning: “I think we all know what the truth is.”

  8. #8 |  Tolly | 

    Is it bad that I want to deface the petition with messages to these idiots to wake up?

  9. #9 |  WWJGD | 

    “We cannot be too cautious, in this day and age.” is rapidly approaching “Another Isolated Incident” levels.

  10. #10 |  Mike T | 

    #5, from TFA:

    He said his decision to present the case to a grand jury was based in part on allegations that Murphy had forgotten Ryan in January when the minivan was parked outside her veterinary office, Caring Hands Animal Hospital. In that case, he said, day-care employees called her to ask whether Ryan would be coming, and she took him from the vehicle after less than a half-hour.

    If that’s true, then Ebert likely has a slamdunk case against her. Negligence on the first occurrence would be hard to show. When it’s your second, third, fourth, etc. time risking the death of your child in the same way, you’d be hard-pressed to find a sympathetic jury.

  11. #11 |  Mike T | 

    If this was a freak occurrence, I’d support letting her go. Second time, charge her with negligence. Third occurrence of her forgetting her son after nearly killing him? Execute her for murder. You can only be so negligent with a small child so many times before you put yourself in the same camp as someone who wanted the kid dead.

  12. #12 |  ClubMedSux | 

    I recall a story a while back (probably via a link posted here) about parents who accidentally leave their kids in cars and they die from the heat. It was so heartbreaking that I can’t even bring myself to click on the link above. All I’ll say, as a parent of three, is that I can see how it could happen and I can’t imagine the level of inhumanity that it would take for somebody to add to what must already be an unbearable amount of grief and guilt. Ebert’s actions are analogous to those of the Westboro Baptist Church when they protest at funerals: they compound the grief of a family in mourning while cloaking their actions in moral self-righteousness.

  13. #13 |  IrishMike | 

    Yeah Caylee’s Law is a great idea. No doubt the reason that the mother did not report the kid missing right away was because it was not a federal offfense to do so. If that law was on the books things would have been totally different.

  14. #14 |  Sean L. | 

    “As we begin to turn the page on this dark chapter in Atlanta Public Schools, I am confident brighter days lie ahead.”

    Read: “Nothing to see here. Move along.”

  15. #15 |  ClubMedSux | 

    Okay, given the two comments that were posted while I was typing mine, it sounds like this case may not be as egregious as the ones I read about earlier. As such, my comparison for this incident was unfair. However, I think it’s still applicable to many prosecutors who choose to bring criminal charges against parents who simply make mistakes.

  16. #16 |  Mannie | 

    She didn’t “forget” the kid in the car several times. She parked the brat in the car and went about her business. It was more than negligent.

    I have no sympathy whatsoever for the bitch.

  17. #17 |  Tolly | 

    Jesus. The mindset of these dopes who are so ready to give more power to Feds in the name of kids is scary.

    Sample comment:
    “Run with the butterflies and dance on the clouds!! R.I.P sweetheart! <3"

    With Oprah off the air they have plenty of time to fill out god-awful petitions and ignore their own kids instead of actually doing something worthwhile.
    These will be the same grunting mouthbreathers who are complaining that the "Gub'mint is too involved in our lives!"

  18. #18 |  Chris in AL | 

    “Prince William mother charged with felony murder in toddler’s hot-van death”

    Facing murder charges for accidents is exactly why you will see more and more people throw a piece of duck tape on the kid’s mouth, put them in a laundry bag and call and report them missing.

    I have had a suspicion all along that Casey Anthony was trying to cover up an accident, not a murder. Incredible timing that this minivan case would come up the day after the Anthony verdict.

  19. #19 |  David | 

    In a just world, “Caylee’s Law” would involve life imprisonment for any use of the phrase “trial of the century.”

  20. #20 |  Mike T | 

    “The question is what type of society we are creating when our children have to fear that a prank (could) lead them to jail for almost a decade. What type of citizens are we creating who fear the arbitrary use of criminal charges by their government?”

    America responded to Pearl Harbor like men: declare war, fight them to their homeland, put a boot on their neck and make them our bitch until we give them permission to even so much as elect a local dog catcher. American responded to 9/11 like a scared little schoolgirl: big daddy government, save me from the evil men who pricked my finger (consider the disparity in loss between losing half of the US Navy in one attack and losing about 0.0009% of the civilian population in one attack).

    In the simplest of terms we should be asking what we have done to become a nation of such unmitigated limp-wristed, whimpy behavior in so few years.

  21. #21 |  PeeDub | 

    I for one am experiencing great schadenfreude at all the Anthony verdict wailers.

    (Not because I think she’s innocent, mind you …)

  22. #22 |  JimBob | 

    The comments on the Madison County link are about what I’ve come to expect in these cases. “If an officer gives you an order, YOU DO IT, and to hell with whether it’s legal or not! If you don’t do whatever a cop says, when he says it, he has every right to tase/shoot/stab/disembowel you, because you didn’t do what he said! That’s illegal!”

    I love it: cops get the wrong house, create a disturbance, shout incoherently at people, then tase them. And it’s the fault of the victims. It’s not just that there’s no ACCOUNTABILITY for cops, it that there’s no belief that there SHOULD BE accountability for cops.

  23. #23 |  M | 

    I like how officers only ever report that they “restored calm” and disregard the fact that they first “destroyed calm”.

  24. #24 |  Tolly | 

    More awesome commentary from the kind of people on the Caylee site who want to enact bold new legislation to make the world perfect:

    “GYNECOLOGIST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA: If Casey Marie Anothony comes into your office, drug her and tie her tubes, If you dont, how long will it be before the “slut” (as Jose Biaz says) will be pregnant again and then killing her new baby with chloroform?? DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN! Pass this law!!!”

    “We must never let down other child,like Caylee Anthony!”

    “President Obama, Please concider this petition and sign it into Federal Law. Whether the outcome in this case was just or not, We The People need to protect the children of the United States of America and it’s the responsibility of the goverment to make sure this happens. Please think of your own children and future Grandchildren and make sure all children are protected. Make Caylees Law a Federal Law soon!! We owe it to the Children of America!! Thank you!!”

  25. #25 |  Bergman | 

    Last I checked, inciting riot was a crime. Why are cops given a pass because they quelled the riot they incited?

  26. #26 |  omar | 

    I spent a couple afternoons a week this past spring tutoring APS 3rd and 4th graders for their standardized tests. With a high degree of confidence, I can say most of those kids failed the shit out of them.

  27. #27 |  Charlie O | 

    “From what I’ve read of the reports, the deputies were justified in their use of force to make the arrests and restore calm to the situation,” Trowbridge said.

    Restore calm!!! Your fucking deputies disturbed the peace to begin with. They incited the situation and now they get to use force to “calm” it down. We gotta get rid of these fucking morons with badges. All of them!

  28. #28 |  BSK | 

    The problem is, you guys are failing to realize that any gathering of 10+ black* people is inherently uncalm. The cops were dutybound to taze the shit out of them.

    You can also replace black with: poor, young, brown, Southern, urban, rural, etc, etc, etc,…

  29. #29 |  Cody | 

    There should be a law against naming laws after dead people.

  30. #30 |  Jerry | 

    Or there should be a law against naming laws after kids, PERIOD!!!! Anytime a politician mentions a law for a child, Common Sense has already flown the coop!

  31. #31 |  edmund dantes | 

    Only problem with your little rose-colored view of our Pearl Harbor response is that it completely white washes a lot of the more egregious weak willed things that America did during that time period. Japanese-American Internment camps sits near the top.

    However, your larger point is true. America went from “we have nothing to fear but fear itself”, to “keep shopping”.

  32. #32 |  Yizmo Gizmo | 

    “Or there should be a law against naming laws after kids, PERIOD!!!! Anytime a politician mentions a law for a child, Common Sense has already flown the coop!”

    Check out Kyleigh’s Law in Massachusetts, a named-after-a-kid
    moronic law that no one, even Orkin, even the Exorcist, can exterminate…

  33. #33 |  efgoldman | 

    Caylee’s Law:
    It shall be a dereliction of duty for a prosecutor to spend untold hours and amounts of taxpayer money and fail actually to prove a case with actual evidence.

  34. #34 |  Brandon | 

    “If this was a freak occurrence, I’d support letting her go. Second time, charge her with negligence. Third occurrence of her forgetting her son after nearly killing him? Execute her for murder. You can only be so negligent with a small child so many times before you put yourself in the same camp as someone who wanted the kid dead.”

    According to the article, this was the second time. So the murder charge is overkill, even by your logic.

  35. #35 |  Mike T | 

    Only problem with your little rose-colored view of our Pearl Harbor response is that it completely white washes a lot of the more egregious weak willed things that America did during that time period. Japanese-American Internment camps sits near the top.

    I would say it was more cold-blooded and ruthless than weak-willed. Let’s face it, if the federal government had any stones left in its body politic, our reaction to 9/11 would have been a summary deportation of all Saudi subjects from US soil, not the USA PATRIOT Act.

  36. #36 |  Mike T | 

    According to the article, this was the second time. So the murder charge is overkill, even by your logic.

    What’s your point other than the fact that I agree with the general sentiment that Ebert is being unjust with her?

  37. #37 |  Some Guy | 

    #21 – me too :) About a week ago, my dad said “the state of Florida could have saved everyone a lot of trouble and just stuck a needle into Casey Anthony.” Hang’em high, I guess…a trial is just some expensive inconvenience when we all know that anyone who is arrested is automatically guilty. And don’t even get me started on Nattering Nancy.

  38. #38 |  JOR | 


    America responded to Pearl Harbor (which was itself, I guess, Japan “acting like men”) with plenty of big-daddy government regulation and security statism; the homefront couldn’t have gotten much more statist without going all-out Stalinist. And America responded to 9/11 with plenty of testosterone-fueled mass murder (of people completely unrelated to the attacks, sure, but then restraint is so wimpy). It’s possible you’re lamenting, not present America’s relative “weakness” compared to the past, but rather its relative individualism compared to the past (the main difference between big daddy security statism and collectivism then and now, aside from degree which was much greater in WWII, is present Americans’ relative lack of participation in and sympathy for it).

    As for practical effects, America seems to be doing just fine for being “limp-wristed”, at least as far as Islamic terrorism is concerned. We have lots of trouble with domestic pigs and economic statism, but less than we did when the Greatest Generation was sucking FDR’s cock.

  39. #39 |  MacGregory | 

    Scott Greenfield has an excellent post about Caylee’s Law:

  40. #40 |  albatross | 

    Mike T:

    We actually did expel a whole bunch of foreign nationals (not just Saudis) after 9/11. IIRC, we rounded up about 1,000 foreigners who, for whatever reason, the feds were worried about and who had no legal right to stay here (that is, not legal residents or citizens), and shipped them back where they came from. I gather this was probably a pretty effective thing to do, though it’s very hard to prove.

    But it’s important to recognize something here: Your view of WW2 is, I’m sorry to say, probably very heavily influenced by propaganda during and after the war, rather than reality. Among the unsavory stuff we did in that war:

    (i) Rounded up a bunch of Japanese and stuck them in concentration camps, not for security reasons, but because it was politically popular. (We would have had to intern or deport Japanese nationals and suspected spies anyway, but that would have been a tiny fraction of the people we put in camps.)

    (ii) Had a president who lied us into a war. (A war we probably needed to be in, true, but it’s unambiguous that FDR was working to get us into that war even while he was campaigning on the claim that he’d keep us out of war.)

    (iii) Allied ourselves with Joe Stalin, one of humanity’s all-time champion mass-murderers, responsible for even more deaths than Adolf Hitler.

    (iv) Firebombed and later nuked cities full of civilians in order to break the enemy’s morale and force them to surrender. (Firebombing didn’t work, but nuking Japan a couple times did.)

    And so on.

  41. #41 |  Donald | 

    RE: The blow up doll case-Sick and tired of “9/11” and “Columbine” used as an excuse to lock up every time some bureaucrat gets paranoid. Based on the footage of a hooded figure smuggling something into the school, of course they should investigate. But since it wasn’t an actual bomb and there was no evidence he wanted people to think it was call the kid a dumbass and move on.

    Another thing I’m sick of is local crimes getting whipped into huge national stories and then people I know who are otherwise perfectly reasonable people jump on the bandwagon. Sucks the Anthony kid is dead, but lots of people die. Quit acting like she was your favorite niece and flogging yourself all over the internet so you can impress us by how wonderful you are that you’re sad. Especially when 99.99999% of the crap you post you didn’t write but copied and pasted from someone that was evidently fired from Hallmark for being to sappy.

  42. #42 |  demize! | 

    How can you reconcile being anti-statist with advocating the state have the power to execute? The thing is, the culture within policing and it’s training aren’t the only problem, so getting rid of them all and starting fresh, which I’m good with, won’t help. This is because those drawn to law enforcement are of a certain mentality. Authoritarian and lacking compassion and common sense is where we need to be making ineligible for jobs that entitle one to power over persons and property.

  43. #43 |  Danny | 

    I wonder if these kid-in-the-car incidents could be reduced if there was some kind of mechanism that set off an alarm, or didn’t let doors lock, or interior lights go off — or maybe “strobed” the headlights — while any seatbelt is engaged while the ignition is off.

  44. #44 |  Maria | 

    “It’s not just that there’s no ACCOUNTABILITY for cops, it that there’s no belief that there SHOULD BE accountability for cops.”

    Well said… This is why I’m wary of any encounter with a cop.

    Too many people have bought into a good old days, Hollywood gilded mythology of the “cop as hero” and hold a mysterious belief is that these men (and women) deserve our obedience and respect simply for their chosen career path rather then their choices, actions, and contributions.

    I suppose the gradual erosion of these beliefs will be met with further violence and intimidation from shit cops while leaving the cops that understand the concepts of community policing at an even greater disadvantage.

  45. #45 |  Ted S. | 


    The problem with that is, I keep the back middle seatbelt buckled so that when there are enough people in the car to need it, it’s obvious which belt goes into which buckle.

  46. #46 |  Highway | 

    Danny, that’s at best an ineffective workaround, and likely to not help in any of these situations. New cars sold with LATCH systems for anchoring child seats might not have a seatbelt latched (one or the other is recommended), or older cars without LATCH systems might have the seatbelt permanently latched to hold the car seat in, whether the child is in there or not. So the seatbelt wouldn’t be any useful indication of whether the child has been removed from the car or not.

    Really, I think the primary culprit is lack of attention, most likely due to lack of adequate rest. So many people are operating on a sleep deficit, especially parents, and unfortunately it’s usually due to their own choices. Certainly sometimes a kid will keep you up late being sick, or there’s something you must get done as a special project, but generally, the reason most people don’t get adequate sleep is television and other entertainment choices (computer, movie, etc). And when people are tired, they make mistakes, and the operate on ‘auto-pilot’.

    Everyone’s done it. Get to work in the morning, and you can’t remember the drive there. Or finish work and get home, and you can’t remember the drive home. Oh, I forgot to stop at the store and pick up whatever. But you don’t remember you forgot something until another factor reminds you. If you’re able to keep going through your routine, it could be a long time before you notice what you forgot.

    It’s possible there might be some remote sensing ability that gets deployed in the near future. Perhaps a weight and motion sensor combined with remote sending (emergency cellphone or SMS) built into a car seat that can notify parents if the seat detects weight + no movement of the vehicle + warm temperatures or something. But I wouldn’t support any sort of law mandating it, because it would just cost a lot of people who can’t really afford that sort of thing more money.

  47. #47 |  Leah | 

    #43 Danny, I think that would be pretty much impossible given that most kids are in carseats that are permanently buckled in the car for 4-8 years. (And you’re more likely to forget a kid before they can talk, so pretty much all under-2s are in car seats – you’d need some sort of weight sensor for the back seats like they have for the front which would also be hard given that some seats weigh over 20lbs and some babies weigh under 10 lbs.) There are already significant problems with getting seats installed correctly because all the vehicles are different and all the seats fit them differently. It’s a good thought, I just don’t think there’s any way the current car/carseat situation could be changed to accommodate that without massive expense.

  48. #48 |  Roho | 

    Police Chief: “I’m still looking into it, but thank goodness I had an extra crew assigned to duty that night. This was a large crowd that grew unruly and action had to be taken to get control of the scene there.”

    If only there were a way to determine *why* the crowd grew unruly. Was there some sort of triggering event that caused this happy party to devolve into chaos and mayhem? The world may never know.

    Keep up the good work, boys!

  49. #49 |  Mattocracy | 

    Reading through the “stampede” link will just piss you off.

  50. #50 |  Andrew S. | 

    Is it wrong if I’m willing to suspend my belief in the first amendment to argue for the summary execution of Nancy Grace?

    As for forgetting the kid in the car… I dunno. My daughter can completely exhaust me at times, but I just couldn’t imagine leaving her in the car seat. Not even when she was younger and the car seat was rear-facing.

  51. #51 |  Aresen | 

    Until 24 hours ago, I had never heard of Nancy Grace.

    One of the benefits of ignoring MSM, I guess.

    [From what I have heard in the last 24 hours, I can truly say that ignorance appears to have been bliss.]

  52. #52 |  Andrew S. | 

    My favorite Nancy Grace profile (NSFW… not too bad but will mention it just to be safe. The true URL might be frowned upon a bit)

  53. #53 |  Jeff | 

    #46 Highway-

    The technology is there, was developed fairly easily and is quite effective, but no one wants to mass produce it do to liability issues should it malfunction.

  54. #54 |  jcalton | 

    Boy, The Agitator really makes me want to move to Indiana these days.

  55. #55 |  texx | 

    the lady who left her kid in the car is my veterenarian.

  56. #56 |  Stephen | 

    We could just bypass all this weight sensor stuff and make a car that doesn’t let the temp go over 85 degrees inside. If it gets too hot, it starts up runs the a/c for a bit then shuts down.

  57. #57 |  johnl | 

    You young people wont remember. But when I was 2, I wasn’t in a car seat. If I had gotten forgotten in the covered wagon, I would have let myself out. This is a failure of the regulated safety equipment as much as a failure of the ditzy lady and the father who should have known she’s ditzy.

  58. #58 |  albatross | 

    The number of these incidents per year is extremely small. They’re the classic kind of events that catch media attention–very rare, and spectacularly horrible. Your child is orders of magnitude more likely to die in a car wreck, suffocate in his bedding, die in a fall, drown in the bathtub, drown in a swimming pool, etc. than to die of heatstroke from being stuck in an overheated car.

    In particular, getting rid of carseats to avoid the risk of a toddler left in the car dying from being overheated is like keeping boxes of matches in his reach all through the house to protect your toddler from freezing to death in case the power goes out in wintertime.

  59. #59 |  DocHoliday916 | 

    Madison County, MS cops. Just add another “one” to the file. The hits just keep a comin’ Who’s the Chief of Police down there? Maybe Reinhard Heydrich did survive that blast from the Polish freedom fighters in ’42.